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Microsoft wraps up development of Windows Vista

Microsoft announced today that Windows Vista has been released to manufacturing. Vista will mark the first big shift in Microsoft consumer operating systems in over 5 years.

With Vista, Microsoft promises increased security with an improved firewall and Windows Defender and User Account Control. Other fresh additions include integrated desktop search, Internet Explorer 7.0, Windows Sidebar, Windows Sideshow, built-in system diagnostics, improved gaming support, fully integrated Speech Recognition as well as support for Windows SuperFetch, Windows ReadyBoost and Windows ReadyDrive.

Windows Vista will be available in four distinct retail versions:

  • Windows Vista Home Basic, $199/$99.95 (full/upgrade)
    Provides a basic platform for home users who want to keep tabs on email and Internet activity. Comes standard with Vista's new Search Explorer, Sidebar and Parental Controls.

  • Windows Vista Home Premium, $239/$159
    Builds on Home Basic by adding the Windows Aero interface, Windows Media Center functionality, Windows Tablet PC technology and integrated DVD burning.

  • Windows Vista Business, $299/$199
    Supports the Aero user interface, offers improved document managing and Windows Tablet PC functionality.

  • Windows Vista Ultimate, $399/$259
    Vista Ultimate combines the functionality of Vista Home Premium and Vista Business.

According to Neowin, the RTM version of Vista will be available for MSDN subscribers sometime after November 10, while businesses should begin receiving their copies on or shortly after November 30. Vista will be launched into the retail sector on January 30, 2007.



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Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/8/2006 2:51:29 PM , Rating: 5
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...while businesses should begin receiving their copies on or shortly after November 30. Vista will be launched into the retail sector on January 30, 2007.


I mean, if the product as gone gold and will be release to businesses around the 30th of November why do normal customers have to wait a full 2 months to get it?

I think this will just incite pirates to release it before that and since people (who know how to use pirates stuff) will go with those versions even more since the retail will only be on the market 2 months later.

Not that I'm in any rush to get it because I will wait for the DirectX 10 videocards to be cheaper before upgrading my whole system for Vista (I need to upgrade anyway, can barely play games at 1024 on medium now...).

But still...2 months.




RE: Why so long?
By Assimilator87 on 11/8/2006 2:56:55 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, there distribution methods are retarded. I'll probably try to get it before the retail launch because I still haven't tried it yet. Doesn't MS allow people to use pirated versions of Vista? I thought they just disabled the 3D features.


RE: Why so long?
By sotti on 11/8/2006 2:58:51 PM , Rating: 2
No after 30 days it almost completely locks you out of the OS.


RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/8/2006 2:59:26 PM , Rating: 3
Pirates will always find a way, that I'm sure of it.

So belive me when I say their versions will be completely functional.


RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/8/06, Rating: -1
RE: Why so long?
By Pirks on 11/8/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/8/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/8/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/9/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/9/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By TomZ on 11/9/2006 5:52:05 PM , Rating: 3
I've had that done to me before also. But, like you, I don't give a shit about my rating either. I mean really, what's the point? If you say something that makes sense, people will recognize that and respond regardless of your cumulative rating. I think people should say what they think and if others don't like it, then fine, mod the post into oblivion - who cares.


RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/10/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By Pirks on 11/16/2006 9:44:13 PM , Rating: 3
cmon, tomz is just a lucky sob :))
it's a karma you know
it's just because he's tomz and not pirks or you ;)


RE: Why so long?
By Sharky974 on 11/9/2006 10:09:14 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah but it's getting more and more a pain in the ass.

Make no mistake pirates are losing this war. A certain small niche will still pirate, but it gets more and more difficult with WGA, and I'm betting Vista will make it more difficult yet

Hell, the current XP pirating tools suck. It'll be worse with Vista...


RE: Why so long?
By nunya on 11/9/2006 4:06:26 AM , Rating: 2
The way it was explained at a Microsoft event I attended was that a pirated copy will give you access to the internet and that's it. And the homepage it loads is a page with the option to buy a legit copy.


RE: Why so long?
By sotti on 11/8/2006 2:58:10 PM , Rating: 2
It's because hardware vendors don't have their ducks in a line yet.

I have not seen a single final driver from any sound card or video card manufacturer.

MSDN and Business users get vista, not because they are going to start using them in production, but for testing purposes so that they can begin to really plan for the implementation of the OS as consumers get their hands on it.


RE: Why so long?
By GreenEnvt on 11/8/2006 3:15:12 PM , Rating: 3
Well no, Vista isn't out yet, so no one will have final drivers yet.

ATI/AMD have released Radeon beta drivers designed for the RTM/Gold build of Vista, that as close as you'll get until Vista is released.


RE: Why so long?
By sotti on 11/8/2006 4:09:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yes and if you look closely those are RTM Beta drivers.

Meaning yes, they are for the final version of vista, but the drivers themselves are still beta.


RE: Why so long?
By kkwst2 on 11/8/06, Rating: -1
RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/8/06, Rating: -1
RE: Why so long?
By sotti on 11/8/2006 4:14:08 PM , Rating: 3
Not for driver development, but for them to test and find out where vista is interms of current drivers, compatibility with exsisting apps that the companies need, ect...

There is alot of testing that will need to be done before even a company of 100 could roll it out.

They release it early for companies so they can begin doing that kind of validation.


RE: Why so long?
By InsaneScientist on 11/8/2006 3:13:41 PM , Rating: 4
*sigh* I know, it bugs me too...

It does make sense, though, once you know the reason.

According to my understanding, what it boils down to is this: There is a certain amount of time that it takes companies like HP and Gateway to get their products out the door and onto store shelves.
If Microsoft couldn't have Vista done by at least August (I think... I might be off a bit), then those companies that build computers and ship them to brick and mortar stores would be at a serious disadvantage during the Christmas season when compared to purely online computer retailers (i.e. Dell) who could put Vista on everything during the Christmas season.

If you were a normal person, and you had the option of buying a computer that had XP, or a similar computer with a similar price, but that had Vista, which would you pick?

So they (HP, Gateway, etc.) complained, and sinct it was a valid complaint, Microsft postponed the consumer launch to after the Christmas season... in this case January 30th.

With Volume Licence customers, though, that's not an issue, so Microsoft is going ahead and releasing it to them now. (In my opinion, a smart move... because by the time the Retail version comes out, some of the initial bugs will probably have been found and patched.


RE: Why so long?
By Le Québécois on 11/8/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By Pirks on 11/8/2006 5:23:19 PM , Rating: 1
why would ms care about pirates _in this case_? pirates actually do good to vista - they promote it! look at any common bittorrent guy - he has the opportunity to test pirated RTM right now, not waiting for january. so there is a chance this guy will like vista so much that he goes out and purchases it in january - ms wins!


RE: Why so long?
By jonmcc33 on 11/8/06, Rating: 0
RE: Why so long?
By rushfan2006 on 11/9/2006 10:54:26 AM , Rating: 2
Personally, and let me disclaimer this as being fully my own theory and thinking and its not based on any data from any magazine, news site or whatever....BUT...I think it has little to do with anything but PR to the corporate customers of MS.

You know, a "benefit" a way of saying "thank you we value your *large* amount of business..."...to the corporations who have long standing customer relationships with MS and buy their software in allotments of 1000's at a time.

I think that is all this is...like being any "club" where "membership has its benefits" kind of thing...

I think they right well could handle the distribution to EVERYONE this month, but they choose not to...for the above reason.



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