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RTM on November 30, retail availability on January 30

It looks as though Microsoft is getting its ducks in a row when it comes to final countdown for Windows Vista and Office 2007. According to APC Magazine, Microsoft has earmarked November 30 as the RTM date for both Vista and Office 2007.

For retail customers, the expected launch date is January 30, 2007 for both software releases. This confirms the launch dates leaked by Amazon.com in late August. APC Magazine reports:

For Vista, this will include a build number of 6000, which also matches the 6.0 reference that denotes Microsoft considers this the sixth full version of their beloved OS. Both Windows 95 line and NT 4.0 were officially stamped as Windows version 4 (or variants, such as Windows 98 being 4.1); Windows 2000 was christened as version 5, and XP anointed as Windows version 5.1 (due to its being built on the NT/2000 codebase).

Pricing for Windows Vista will range from $199/$99 (full/upgrade) for Vista Home Basic to $399/$259 for Vista Ultimate. Prices for Office 2007 start at $149 for Office Home and Student 2007 and top out at $499/$329 (full/upgrade) for Office Professional 2007.



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why wait??
By leousb on 11/2/2006 8:36:34 AM , Rating: -1
Sad but True: I´ll get it for 2$ (literaly) as soon as it´s pirated. or just for free as soon as it´s "torrented".




RE: why wait??
By TomZ on 11/2/2006 9:27:29 AM , Rating: 2
We're very proud of you. I sure wish I was selfish and greedy enough use the fruit of Microsoft's labor without compensating them at all. All I can hope is that it comes full circle, and that someone else takes your life's work and doesn't pay you for it some day.


RE: why wait??
By Spivonious on 11/2/2006 10:49:37 AM , Rating: 2
Fantastic post TomZ. If there's one thing I can't stand it's the thief who brags about his crimes.


RE: why wait??
By leousb on 11/2/06, Rating: 0
RE: why wait??
By ZmaxDP on 11/2/2006 2:34:30 PM , Rating: 2
Well, you may not be bragging, but you are certainly proclaiming that you are going to be doing something illegal. It would also seem that you are a little proud about it, hence the "bragging." But, perhaps you really are just a "realist."

I don't think anyone here doubt that both product will at some point be hacked, torrented, etc... However, just because it is a reality doesn't mean its right, or even ok. People die, its a reality, that doesn't mean you should kill someone. That kind of logic is pretty shameful.

I don't hope that someone steals your life work, I just hope MS sues your ass once you've pirated their software and you loose everything you've got. That will be justice.


RE: why wait??
By kkwst2 on 11/2/2006 5:57:34 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, that's a little extreme. You hope he loses everything he's got because he steals a $200 piece of software? Or did you really mean loose? Perhaps you just hope his clothes don't fit quite as well.

I guess you'd execute carjackers? Are you from Singapore?


RE: why wait??
By wind79 on 11/2/2006 8:52:38 PM , Rating: 2
Where are you from man? We dont execute people for carjacking. There are still pirates here in Singapore, just that its extremely hard to find one in the open now.


RE: why wait??
By smaddox on 11/2/06, Rating: 0
RE: why wait??
By deeznuts on 11/2/2006 1:01:06 PM , Rating: 2
RE: why wait??
By Hydrofirex on 11/2/2006 1:02:24 PM , Rating: 1
OK, everyone, take a deep breath and take this in: People pirate software. It's a personal moral decision. I have to again say that if he is happy with the software, and has no moral reservations about his actions, then let him be. I do have to say that pirating a product like an OS is not morally justifiable and is pretty much stealing from a lot of hard working programmers who have very little recourse to seek reimbursement for their effort. Of course, on the other hand, I don't exactly see M$ hurting for the sales....

At any rate, M$ has done a good job making sure that people have to deal with a lot of hassle, and don't have access to the updates, when pirating. This is going to be fine and dandy until the critical updates start rolling in for Vista, and this guy is stuck with an OS he can't update. Again, can any of you imagine having to use XP without SP2? Sure, eventually he'll be able to pirate a new 'SP2' out of the box version of Vista, but to use it he'll have to reinstall his entire OS. At this point the rest of us have just sat through a 20 minutes download and install process and are moving on with out lives.

HfX


RE: why wait??
By leousb on 11/2/2006 1:17:58 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
is pretty much stealing from a lot of hard working programmers
Those hard working programmers actually have a determined income and hardly have "bonuses" over sales (they aren´t Swarzenegger or anything who collects a cut from the box office, etc).
quote:
Of course, on the other hand, I don't exactly see M$ hurting for the sales....
You are completely right here, do you think M$ doesn´t take pirated % of copys into the price of their products??
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At any rate, M$ has done a good job making sure that people have to deal with a lot of hassle, and don't have access to the updates, when pirating. This is going to be fine and dandy until the critical updates start rolling in for Vista, and this guy is stuck with an OS he can't update. Again, can any of you imagine having to use XP without SP2? Sure, eventually he'll be able to pirate a new 'SP2' out of the box version of Vista, but to use it he'll have to reinstall his entire OS. At this point the rest of us have just sat through a 20 minutes download and install process and are moving on with out lives.
Kinda right here, though I wouldn´t mind doing a fresh install of an OS every now and then, it´s even a good way to keep your system "healthy" and even then 100% sure the updates will be pirated too (Not that I do the pirating i Just use it).
Later . . .


RE: why wait??
By ZmaxDP on 11/2/2006 2:41:33 PM , Rating: 3
Wow, more shameful logic. "My stealing isn't hurting the 'little guys'" No, but if a thousand people pirate the software instead of buying it, that is an entire salary for several 'little guys' and regardless of your take on business ethics if MS makes less money it won't employ as many people.

Oh, Oh! You're like the guy that throes trash out his window because "one little plastic bag won't hurt." Yet when 1000 people do it all of a sudden we've got a problem.

Look, justify it to yourself however you may. The fact is that you're doing what is convenient for you, and disregarding the rest of society. You're right that they factor in piracy into their costs. If people didn't pirate I wouldn't have to pay more for my OS so that crooks like you can get theirs for free. Hopefully for your sake one of these days you'll figure it out. If not, you'll eventually end up in jail or have a nice hefty fine to pay. Either way I'll be pleased as punch. - I'm feeling a bit vindictive today can't you tell?


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