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Sony's New Math prices Xbox 360 cost at almost $700

An official Sony document that compares next-generation consoles has been floating around the 'net lately, which we first spotted on Engadget. The document claims that the actual total cost of the Xbox 360 is $698, which apparently has much of the Xbox fan community up in arms.

Much of the controversy stems from the fact that Sony built Microsoft's console setup by starting with a Core system ($299) and then adding on a 20 GB hard drive ($100), a wireless controller ($50), an Xbox Live Gold subscription ($50) and the optional HD-DVD drive ($199), all of which add up to $698. (See figure 1.)

The argument against Sony's method is that it could have started with the Xbox 360 Premium package which, while $100 more than the Core, includes the 20 GB HD and wireless controller, shaving $150 off Sony's figures. The inclusion of the Xbox Live Gold subscription is debatable, as it is still unclear as to how Sony's online service compares to Microsoft's free Xbox Live Silver service.

The $199 HD-DVD drive, though not essential to gaming on the Xbox 360, is added to Sony's comparison on the basis that the PlayStation 3 also doubles as a Blu-ray movie player. Thus, the HD-DVD add-on is 'required' in order for the Xbox 360 to stay competitive in the HD movie space. To shed more light on this reasoning, Engadget received the following response from Dave Karraker, Senior Director of Corporate Communications for SCEA:

"Through our comparison chart we are not implying that you must purchase the myriad of peripherals and add-ons that Microsoft offers to play your Xbox 360. You don't. However, if you want to attempt to come close to the performance of the $499 PlayStation 3 by using your Xbox 360, Core or Premium, you could only do that through expensive add-ons -- that is what our chart is demonstrating. Once you add it all up, it would cost you more than our $499 unit, and you would still not come close to everything we offer, ie: free multiplayer gaming, 50GB storage capacity of Blu-ray disc, Blu-ray disc player for games AND movies, processing power of the Cell Broadband Engine."

One glaring omission from Sony's price comparison is that in order to take full advantage of PlayStation 3's high-definition capabilities, gamers will have to purchase HDMI cables that are not included with either versions of the console. On the other hand, Microsoft includes component cables with every Xbox 360 Premium.

Our own analysis of Sony's document also turned up other peculiarities. Under the "Wireless Communication" field, Sony lists its own machine to have 802.11b, making us scratch our heads at the missing "g". (See figure 3.)

A quick call to Sony, however, cleared up this small matter and we were sent an updated spec-sheet that restores the missing letter and confirms that the 60 GB PlayStation 3 does indeed come standard with IEEE 802.11b/g. (See figure 4.)



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By Aikouka on 10/24/2006 3:34:27 PM , Rating: 3
I don't know about you, Michael1980, but sure as hell I would. Not only would I enjoy the lower price more, the fact that they wouldn't be using a blue diode would theoretically raise the amount of PS3s that would have been produced (since the blue diode was the main production problem and then the Cell processors).

At this point, it would've been a win-win situation for Sony to do that :).


By Aikouka on 10/25/2006 11:00:14 AM , Rating: 2
So? I really don't see what your point is other than trying to divert the subtopic. We're not arguing XBOX 360 availability issues here; we're discussing that if the PS3 didn't offer Blu-Ray that it may have more consoles available at launch. It's a counterfactual argument that can never be proven, but it's something to consider.

The launch of the XBOX 360 is irrelevant in this discussion as I never even cited the XBOX 360 or its launch in my comment. Also, just because the XBOX 360 was in shorter supply at launch doesn't necessarily mean the PS3 automatically would be if it didn't have Blu-Ray.


By therealnickdanger on 10/24/2006 4:27:59 PM , Rating: 5
So far, the arguments regarding DVD9 being a mainstay for games for many years to come have been beaten to a proverbial death with a proverbial stick. DVD9 will suffice for quite a while. The next logical progression will be to download games to your HDD directly via Steam-esque services.

Daftrok, the problem(s) with your argument, as before, is that you insist on comparing things which are of no consequence to gaming. Sure, it's nice that the base PS3 comes with HDD, Wi-Fi, and BR, but none of those are a necessity for gaming on the 360 or Wii, so those are added frills that only serve to raise the cost of the PS3 and keep it out of reach for many gamers. I would argue (if we really want to use common sense) that the only fair comparison would be if the PS3 was $299 as well. Then, and only then, can you truly make a fuss about all the extras the PS3 has, since it wouldn't cost extra to get them!


By Aikouka on 10/25/2006 11:10:03 AM , Rating: 2
Use does not infer necessity.

Do not cite that Resistance: Fall of Man article unless you can provide me with a recursive directory listing with file sizes to show necessity.

CDs and DVDs already showed a need before the medium hit the mainstream. I remember having multiple floppy disks to install games on my computer back in the day. Windows 3.11 was what... 5 floppies? Albeit that's only about 7MB of data, that's still 5 floppies that could be condensed into one CD that's cheaper to manufacture.

DVDs showed a use when games started shipping on multiple CDs. I still have PC games that come to me in a CD form (and they end up encompassing 4-5 CDs). Fortunately for some games, I can create my own DVD installs (WoW being one of them) and that's a handy feature.

So, if you look at the progression, we pretty much have 100% convergence to CDs and I'd say maybe 40-50% convergence to DVDs for PC games. Games still come out with PC-CD and PC-DVD formats for the same game (I believe that's the terms they use on the boxes).


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