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First half-million of PlayStation 3 to come packed with Ricky Bobby

Sony Computer Entertainment America today announced its debut game titles and unveiled the online strategy for PlayStation 3. Sony also confirmed our reports that games will be priced at $59.99. SCEA today also unveiled the online and network services provided through PS3, which we first reported on earlier.

SCEA Launch Titles

Resistance: Fall of Man
NBA 07
Genji: Days of the Blade

Third Party Publisher Titles

Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Call of Duty 3
EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
Madden NFL 07
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: CROSSFIRE
Need For Speed Carbon
Sonic the Hedgehog
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Untold Legends Dark Kingdom 

“Our line-up of PS3 games that will be available through the holidays is unprecedented in terms of volume, variety and innovation, surpassing any previous competitive launch catalog and even our own original offerings for other PlayStation platforms,” said Kaz Hirai, President and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America.  “We are pioneering a new era of true next-generation gaming through such titles as Resistance: Fall of Man, a visually arresting game that takes advantage of the large storage capacity and exceptional visual clarity offered by Blu-ray Disc; and NBA 07, running at full 1080p for the highest resolution image possible, creating hyper-realistic characters and gameplay never seen before.”

As if simply being able find a PlayStation 3 at launch wasn't incentive enough, Sony announced that packed-in with the first half million PS3 systems shipped in North America will be Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby, starring Will Farrell. This puts a copy of the movie into PlayStation 3-owners hands almost a month before the Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby stand-alone street date of December 12, 2006 

Finally, SCEA also announced today the roster of peripherals that will accompany the arrival of PS3. The peripherals that will be available on launch day include the SIXAXIS Controller, available for $49.99, a Memory Card Adaptor for transferring game save information from PlayStation and PlayStation2 Memory Cards onto the HDD of PS3 for $14.99, and coming soon, a BD Remote Control for $24.99 (see peripheral photos here).

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I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/19/2006 11:23:58 PM , Rating: 2
I posted this on gizmodo already, so what the hell:

Wasn't the wireless controller retailed at 39.99? Also, if you go to, you can get a 10' HDMI cable for just 10 bucks. But lets make a comparison list, shall we?

Suppose you want to go the distance and get the best possible accesorries for your PS3 and your Xbox 360:

Xbox 360 List:
399.99 for console
199.99 for HD-DVD add-on (comes with remote)
79.99 for wireless adapter
19.99 for intercooler
19.99 for charge and play kit
9.99 for rechargable battery
47.99 for extra wireless xbox 360 controller

This adds up to: $840.16. I am sure you can cut this down to around 800-820 dollars if you search harder than me.

PS3 List:
599.99 for console
49.99 for extra controller (I guess)
9.99 for HDMI cable
19.99? for intercooler
14.99 for memory card adapter
29.99 for remote (I guess)
24.99 for Motorola HS820 Bluetooth Headset

This adds up to: 809.92. I'm sure that 800 dollars is the ball park.

So you see, for the full experience of the xbox 360 and the ps3, they are roughly the same price. Plus buying the remote for the ps3 is absolutely unneccesary, but I wanted to be fair. Also, the grand total includes 8% tax.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By GhandiInstinct on 10/19/2006 11:29:04 PM , Rating: 2
I would rather have someone list all the games that you can play for PS3 or console in general that you cannot for PC, then I'll make the decision if consoles are worth my money when I have an excellent, upgradable PC.

And all I'll do is plop a Blu-Ray burner in and I'm set for a long while :)

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/19/2006 11:33:28 PM , Rating: 1
Given that a blu-ray burner costs 750 rather drop another 50 and get the list

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By rushfan2006 on 10/20/2006 9:21:59 AM , Rating: 3
Well going from the perspective of the previous poster, who suggest they are a pc-gamer (like myself) with a very good PC....why in all sanity would you even BOTHER with the current $750 blu-ray burner RIGHT NOW? Unless you enjoy racking investing $750 bucks for what amounts to ZERO RETURN for the purpose of a pc-gaming rig.

Even if someone wants to argue some silly thing like "um because then I can backup 50gigs on a single disc"....I'd counter with "um....that's not worth $750!!!".

You build a good gaming pc...sure it costs about 2k for a decent mid-level rig...but there just isn't a need for blu-ray AT ALL...except if its job related or you are one of those silly types that would rather go into major credit card debt than to OMG *NOT* be the first on the block to have sometime new.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By muffins on 10/20/2006 10:13:59 AM , Rating: 3
Even if someone wants to argue some silly thing like "um because then I can backup 50gigs on a single disc"....I'd counter with "um....that's not worth $750!!!".

yea why pay $750 for a BR burner when you can spend $100 to backup 300ish gigs with another hdd

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By Nekrik on 10/19/2006 11:49:26 PM , Rating: 4
I'd actually drop the HD-DVD (and $199) from the X-box list, it's not needed to enjoy any of the other items in the list. I'd never buy one and would buy a higher end stand alone unit just as I would for the blue-ray player if I had the Ps3.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By AaronAxvig on 10/20/2006 12:26:59 AM , Rating: 2
Until they release any good games that you want to play on HD-DVD only...?

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By ShapeGSX on 10/20/2006 12:56:14 AM , Rating: 2
MS has stated that they will never release games on anything other than DVD9 and XBox Live.

I'd also drop the wireless adapter. My router sits right underneath my HDTV. Wireless is just too damn slow for me.

And the intercooler? Huh?

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/06, Rating: -1
RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By Hemipower on 10/20/2006 1:34:30 AM , Rating: 1
why do you put 10 for hdmi, i am sure the ps3 will include one. 15 dollar for memory card adapter? the 360 has one as well so add that. how about an extra battery for the ps3 controller? unless you add the hddvd you cant compare the two price wise.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/2006 1:41:34 AM , Rating: 1
No HDMI cable will be included (nor component either, but seriously that costs like 10-15 bucks on amazon, the ps2 component cables are 100% compatable with the ps3), the 360 doesn't come with an adapter, and the ps3 controller comes standard with built-in li-ion and recharged via usb. And I did say that it was an unfair comparison because of the HD-DVD capabilities...please read. I know the list looks more appealing but there are important things talked about in the long paragraphs.

By Hemipower on 10/20/2006 12:36:31 PM , Rating: 1
yes i read those paragraphs of yours. the point i am saying about the adapter is that the xbox has one available for purchase. What i mean is if you are going to add it for the ps3 you should add it for the xbox as well. As far i know there is no other way to get your saves from the xbox to the xbox 360 except with this kit. Also these is the xsata but thats another story.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By Lakku on 10/20/2006 2:15:28 PM , Rating: 3
The PS3 controller, made by or contracted out by Sony, uses an internal Li-Ion battery? So, I'm going to assume here, so stay with me, that these batteries will probably be made or of the Sony brand. That sounds great, so when I get to play Call of Duty 3, not only do I get to feel rumble from the pad from explosions, I just may get the added realism bonus of the controller blowing up or catching fire in my hand. Awesome! They are taking it to a whole new intensity level with this one.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/2006 10:02:14 PM , Rating: 2
For the love you really think after 8 million god damn recalls they'll make explosive batteries on a controller? Jesus tapdancing Christ....

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By tuteja1986 on 10/20/2006 3:08:26 AM , Rating: 2
Dude i bought :
XBOX 360 $399
Charge and play kit which comes with rechargable battery $20
also i don't buy an extra controller :(
Who is stupid to buy an intercooler , it really does crap all and all the XBOX 360 model produced after march 2006 don't have the cooling issue.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By OxBow on 10/20/2006 9:44:00 AM , Rating: 2
My 360 (which is only 3 months old) runs quite hot even with the intercooler. Yes, it's in a tv cabinet and no, it's not crowded in but well ventilated and the power brick is on a good distance away outside the cabinet.

I haven't heard about an intercooler available for the PS3 yet, but I'm sure I'll get one for my PS3 when it comes out. If there's no intercooler available at launch, someone will have one on the market by January. Even if the PS3 runs cooler than the 360, it still makes sense to insure your purchase for the modest $20 price of a couple fans.

Tests have shown that the intercoolers keep the 360 on average 20 degrees cooler than without. Seems to me a fairly simple decision to protect your gear.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By Alexvrb on 10/20/2006 12:45:24 PM , Rating: 2
1) DVD upscaling on the 360 will likely be included in the near future.
2) DVD remote is not required for DVD playback on the 360, and although I now own one of the universal xbox remotes, I have found the wireless controller works fine for DVDs.
3) I already own high capacity rechargeable NiMH AAs. They rock. I use them for many devices. Can I use them here?
4) Do PS3 controllers come with a mini-to-full USB cable? Can you replace the batteries easily (do they catch fire :P)? What about vibration? Wii controllers have rumble AND motion detection.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/2006 10:05:57 PM , Rating: 2
1) When?
2) Yes it is, believe me I tried.
3) For the 360? Sure
4)Yes they do. No the batteries are built-in (but when your ps3 controller battery dies, you get a free replacement just like i-word), and just because two dozen batteries out of 8.5 million blow up does not mean a controller will (I think they would check for that). No vibration, but consumer outcry will lead to third-party controllers. Wii controller do have rumble and bluetooth for the buttons, but motion detection requires an IR sensor bar

By FITCamaro on 10/20/2006 9:27:24 AM , Rating: 2
Seriously. The HD-DVD drive can't be included there for the purpose of playing games. It's not and never will be needed because if a game was released on it, it would eliminate a large majority of the customer base from being able to play it.

The intercooler is a little thing that sticks on the back of the Xbox 360 and helps keep it cool by sucking more air out.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By Piccoro on 10/20/2006 1:13:19 AM , Rating: 2
If you want it all hardware wise the PS3 does look like the better deal. Although I bet I could find a cheaper wireless adapter than you list. And for someone who just wants to jump in with high res gaming, the Xbox360 hardware is plenty.

Of course what frills each console offers pales in comparison to the importance of what games they offer (which is what I'm spending my money on). Luckily all the consoles have a good selection.

Here is a list of exclusive games for each console (Xbox360, PS3 and Wii).

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By VIAN on 10/20/2006 1:28:20 AM , Rating: 2
You're serious?! An intercooler for the 360 enhances the experience... how? And you have 1 charge and play kit & then a rechargeable battery... why? What's the extra battery for? What if both batteries run out of power?

I think the accessories you put vary per person. I just don't get the point in your comparison, other than trying to pass the PS3 as a cheaper machine. The PS3 isn't even out yet, we don't really know all the features that come with it, or the prices to even make a fair comparison.

And on top of that it varies. I want just a game console with 1 controller and a charge and play kit. Some other guy might want HD-DVD as well. Someone might need a wireless adapter, some might not. And who the hell would pay 30 bucks for a remote control for a DVD player? That's expensive!

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/06, Rating: -1
RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/06, Rating: -1
RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By epsilonparadox on 10/20/2006 9:55:01 AM , Rating: 2
as an owner of a launch 360, you don't need an intercooler. My 360 only gets warm to the touch.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/2006 10:55:22 AM , Rating: 1
You lucky son of a....

By Hemipower on 10/20/2006 12:33:26 PM , Rating: 1
yea i dont use the intercooler and never have, but i also had 3 premiums breake on me already and i still have my original core system.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By therealnickdanger on 10/20/2006 10:19:15 AM , Rating: 2
And, as an owner of a 360, yes for the love of Christ you need an intercooler to prevent your 360 from DYING.

No, you just need to not be an idiot. Don't throw the 360 in a closed entertainment center with its power supply and a surround sound receiver. Also, at least half of the "overheating" claims about 360 have nothing to do with heat, but other hardware problems, since recalled by Microsoft. Oh yeah, don't toss it around while it's on, either.

In all honesty, the best setup possible to play games on Xbox360 is as follows:
Xbox360 Premium: $400
Wired Controller x2: $70
Sell wireless controller on eBay: -$40
Xbox Live: $50
*Video cable for 1080p? $30??
Total price: $480

As cool as the wireless controllers are, they are still wireless and suffer from the same miniscule latency issues that Wi-Fi does. I use Ninja Gaiden as a prime example in this case, but there may be other games where it is a problem: for the more complex moves in Ryu's arsenal, the wireless controller can not keep up with my input commands whereas the wired performs flawlessly - just like original Xbox. No need for wireless or all the dumb recharging equipment or batteries.

So basically the wireless controller can't be trusted, so just sell it and get a wired one instead. I fear somewhat for Ninja Gaiden 2 in that Team Ninja may be forced to adapt NG's amazing control engine to match input speeds of the wireless controllers, effectively "dumbing down" the experience. We'll see. I hope they stick to their guns and keep the precision and input speed ridiculously high.

It has already been pointed out that Wi-Fi as an ethernet option is not as good as wired, so I won't go into that any further.

Since the HD-DVD add-on is ONLY for movies and will NEVER be required for games, it should be off the list.

*Microsoft also includes the cable needed to display both SD/HDTV, so no further cables are necessary. Since we don't yet know how Microsoft will implement 1080p, it's hard to judge whether or not additional cables will be necessary. It's a proven fact that 1080p is doable over component and most certainly over RGB...

Oh yeah, one last thing, Microsoft is also launching their "Platinum Hits" line which will basically be tons of great games for $20. I wonder how many Platium Hits will be PS3 launch titles? LOL *sigh*

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/2006 11:13:07 AM , Rating: 1 I go. Apparenty YOU are the idiot for not buying the intercooler for the 360. It all depends, but really, if you can save your console from heat for just 20 bucks rather than just be confident Microsoft said "harware issues" and therefore are in ignorant bliss...DO IT! Plus you must've gotten the worst case scenario for wireless, because I play Ninja Gaiden with the wireless and it performs perfectly. I also play the 360 wireless internet style, and the only issue that I've had with wireless was when I played Chrome Hounds, which I don't anymore cuz mech wars are pretty slow paced.

And the reason why I added the HD-DVD dongle in the first place is because that is really the only way you can compare the 360 and the PS3. 360 has NO next-gen DVD viewing capabilities. The PS3 does. If you don't want it, don't get it, but you just can't compare the PS3 and 360 because they are pretty different.

And you must have been high when you wrote "Microsoft is also launching their 'Platinum Hits' line which will basically be tons of great games for $20. I wonder how many Platium Hits will be PS3 launch titles?"....sigh....a game goes platinum when you sell a certain number of them, MORON. How can you have any platinum hits at LAUNCH?

Think before you type man. You were making a good argument until you called me an idiot (douche) and making smart ass comments about shit you don't even know.

Oh yes, in this country, we have a little thing called tax. So the supposed 40 dollars you are going to get for selling a wireless controller will be used to pay taxes.

Also, chicks dig wireless. Wired = not sexy.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By therealnickdanger on 10/20/2006 12:16:31 PM , Rating: 4
1. I don't need to "save my console from heat" since it's not an issue for me. Scour the harder-edged Xbox sites, you'll see that the 360's failures are often not heat-related... plus I just keep it cool by method of location. Far be it from me to argue with your perception of how valuable you find the $20 air-cooler device, but it is simply not necessary.

2. My friends can play NG on wireless as well, but they suck at it. I play it somewhat religiously and have beaten it several times on very hard as well as the hurricane packs. I can't say this with authority, but I'm willing to bet I've logged way more hours in NG than you. Seriously, I almost lost my job over it! LOL Anyway, my wireless controller AND the one I exchanged it for both failed to pull off the more advanced combo strings which the wired controller had no issues with. I tested it on my friend's 360 as well with the same result, so until the day I can test out your magical controller, I'll stick by my statement.

3. I would still argue against the inclusion of the HD-DVD drive as it is not a required device for playing games. Last I checked, these are primarily videogame consoles. I have already paid in full for my HD-DVD drive at GameStop, so I'm not against getting it at all, but it is not required and is indeed an "add-on".

4. Obviously, you lack some form of reading comprehension. I'll break it down for you some more so you can understand better. Out of all the PS3 launch titles, some games have been out for Xbox360 long enough and possibly have the sales volume to warrant inclusion into the Platinum Hits catalogue: Blazing Angels, Fight Night 3, Oblivion, etc. Some of the others may also be cheaper (by $10-$20) by the time PS3 hits, so my point was that: for the same game, it may cost less or considerably less to buy it for Xbox360. Does that make sense or is that still a smart-ass comment?

5. We do have tax in this country, but it varies by state or even by county and city, and some states (mine) don't charge tax for Internet purchases. In addition, the pre-tax price is all that matters since the comparison between console pricing would not change assuming the same tax rate was applied.

6. Chicks also "dig" spending $1,500 on purses. I've gotten by just fine for many years on my charm and good looks. If push comes to shove, I can impress them with my wired higher bandwidth and lower latencies.

7. As for name-calling, I wasn't calling you, personally, an idiot. It was a general "you" applied to people that buy aftermarket coolers. I'm sorry you fall into that category. No offense intended, I offer my apology.

By FITCamaro on 10/20/2006 2:00:19 PM , Rating: 2
With you on number 6 man. Few women actually worth looking at are impressed that you have a wireless controller for your video games console. Some might think its nice but most won't give a damn.

If you rely on something like that to impress a lady, you probably won't even get far enough to have a woman in your house/apartment to show her it anyway. And you might be something like this guy.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/2006 10:14:26 PM , Rating: 2
1) Intercooler is there just to be there, I'd rather be on the safe side. Its 20 bucks dude, seriously, whats the downside here.

2) No wonder your controller died!

3) To each his own.

4) I see your point now, but still its a bit unfair to base the 360 games with PS3 games due to the fact that 360 had a year head start.

5) What state is this, cuz I wanna move there!

6) Complete joke

7) I'm sensitive! And aftermarket coolers are only idiot to buy if it costs more than 20 bucks. Seriously, its 20 bucks. I dont want your 360 to die, its like insurance (incase shit happens).

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By VIAN on 10/20/2006 12:19:28 PM , Rating: 2
I still don't think the intercooler is necessary because if it does overheat, then I would demand that MS gives me a new one for free, since it is their fault, not mine. They are supposed to make sure the thing works properly. Mine seems fine anyway, no need for intercooler.

You can still compare the PS3 and the 360 even though the 360 doesn't have HD-DVD. Why are you buying a console? Idk about you, but I'm buying it to play games. When I see that the PS3 is $200 more for a similar gaming experience, then obviously, the PS3 is much more expensive. I don't care if it had a feature that gave me head while playing games. The reason I buy consoles is to game.

I take the minimalist approach. Give me what I need to complete my task. Don't give me extra crap and try to say it's a good deal, it isn't since I'm paying more for extra things that I don't want.

BTW, I haven't noticed anything with the wireless controllers either. I like them.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By VIAN on 10/20/2006 12:25:09 PM , Rating: 2
I haven't noticed anything with the wireless controller, but I don't play fighting games that require combos to be executed quickly. So, Wireless or not is a subjective topic.

However, I learned something new today, just as I suspected, wired is better.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By Korvon on 10/20/2006 1:43:53 PM , Rating: 2
Its a Comparison people. He was trying to get the two systems as comparable as possible. He didnt say you NEED an HD-DVD to play games, he said to make them with COMPARABLE features you would have to include one on the 360.

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By therealnickdanger on 10/20/2006 1:58:38 PM , Rating: 3
Its a Comparison people...

Yes it is, and a poor one at that, which is why everyone is taking issue with it. It's not a big deal and he's entitled to his opinion, but so are we. If the PS3 came with a microwave, would you add the price of a microwave to the 360 for a comparison? The root of this whole thing is which console is cheaper to play games on - the winner is clearly Xbox360. What games do you want to play games on? That's subjective.

P.S. L0l in7ern3t!!1

RE: I smell a price comparison fight
By daftrok on 10/20/06, Rating: 0
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