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Hybrid players due early next year

With no foreseeable happy ending to the HD-DVD/Blu-ray format war, NEC has done us all a favor today by shipping a chip that is compatible with both formats.

According to Reuters, "the chips go on sale for 10,000 yen ($84), roughly the same price as NEC Electronics' chips which read only Blu-ray or only HD DVD formats." Players incorporating the new chip will be available sometime early 2007, reports AkibaNews.

While we now have silicon to rule both formats, the optical pick-up lens capable of reading both HD-DVD and Blu-ray is still currently in development. Until such a hybrid pick-up becomes reality, dual-players must utilize two separate lenses, which no doubt drives up costs.

A NEC spokesperson commented that a hybrid chip and optical pick-up would likely make up more than half of the cost of a player.

Developments to bridge the gap between the two warring formats isn't exclusive to hardware. Warner recently filed a patent outlining plans of a hybrid-disc that will be compatible with both HD-DVD and Blu-ray by means of layering one format on top of the other.

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RE: oh please
By michal1980 on 10/11/2006 6:48:44 AM , Rating: -1
ur a flaming fan-boi, that needs to grow up, and stop with your stupid blind hate.

You saw one name sony, so you automaticly hate blu-ray.

The reality is, that the blu-ray support/development, came from many more compaines then hd-dvd. In fact. HD-DVD was bascially created by one company TOSHIBA, because they wanted to force there own format, so that everyone would have to pay TOSHIBA cash.

Sony worked with studios and other manufactures. Thats why samsung players are out, lg, pioneer, and sony players are coming for blu-ray.

Yet so far only the Toshiba, and now M$ are putting out HD-DVD.

Yes its evil sony trying to force something they did on there own against everyone elses wishes.

Which is why Blu-ray had/has 90% movie studio backing, Where as HD-DVD has the rest. Maybe thats why even after launching months later, the amount of titles for both scheduled, is the same?

And get your facts straigt. Both HD-DVD have managed copy guidlines.

But its not MANDATORY. Lets see does the toshiba HD-DVD player give me manage copy? ohhh, it DOESN"T.

And blu-ray is 50 GB, go get your self a copy of click.

And if want a cheap blu ray player get a 500 dollar ps3. Same price as a the 'cheap' HD-DVD player. (and if the format dies, you can still play games, where-as if hd-dvd dies, you can fill a landfill)

RE: oh please
By tdream on 10/11/2006 8:57:17 AM , Rating: 2
You could also look at it from HD DVD's point of view and say that the x360 already has a huge gamer base and those people who already bought the 360 only have to pay an extra $199 for HD-DVD usage, so compare that to $500 and your argument is losing strength.

I can see both formats succeeding and eventually all the manufacturers stuck in the middle of the format war will make their drives compatible with both formats, for the sake of profits. No one format will put the other out of business.

RE: oh please
By BladeVenom on 10/11/2006 9:13:48 AM , Rating: 2
It wasn't just Toshiba; it has the support of the DVD Forum, and the majority of its over 230 members.

Toshiba and MS aren't the only ones putting out HD DVD players. RCA has players out, and more companies will soon follow.

HD DVD has good study backing. "HD DVD is currently exclusively backed by Universal Studios and The Weinstein Company (through Genius Products) and is non-exclusively backed by Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros., New Line, HBO, DreamWorks, Image Entertainment, Magnolia Pictures, Brentwood Home Video, Warner Music Group, Ryko, Goldhil Entertainment, and Studio Canal." -wikipedia

Click is the first Blu-Ray movie to use a double layered disk, all the rest are using single. So you're going to get Blu-ray for one movie, when all the other movies out so far look better with HD DVD.

RE: oh please
By Helbore on 10/11/2006 11:01:26 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, HD-DVD was ratified by the DVD forum, so was supported by the majority of the industry. Originally, even Sony supported it, but pulled ouot in favor of a proprietry format, much like they did with DVD-Audio.

The driving reason is that Sony owned the CD format and lived off the immense income generated by the royalties and wants to maintain this control with all future formats. Just look at how many Sony-proprietry formats have existed (and had ridiculous price tags compared to the competition)

Oh and Blu-Ray is 25GB per layer. Most Blu-Ray discs to date have only been single layer. Click is the first dual-layer disc so far.

Personally, I was a supporter of Blu-Ray for a long time, a it did have better specs on paper. However, the final results, so far, have not been favourable for Sony and if I were to purchase now (which I won't) I would be choosing HD-DVD.

RE: oh please
By EclipsedAurora on 10/11/2006 2:10:13 PM , Rating: 2

It is the R&D power of Sony is so amazing
Sony owns far more patents then TOshiba at least.

And u've forgot Philips, the CD/DVD/BluRay co-inventor as well.

RE: oh please
By zombiexl on 10/11/2006 9:49:33 PM , Rating: 2
You forgot that Sony also has far more failed proprietary formats.

BR is great for storage but the price is insane.. I havent seen a BR player below $980, but I can pickup an HD-DVD player for under $500 and get better quality in the earlier movies released, I'm sure BR is catching u now.

In any case I wouldnt spend even $500 on either format this early in the game and since I already own 2 - 360's I dont have to.

Before you try to label me as anti-sony, most of my AV stuff is still Sony (not sure why though)...

"Nowadays you can buy a CPU cheaper than the CPU fan." -- Unnamed AMD executive

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