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Microsoft puts the finishing touches on its latest browser

In the battle of Firefox versus Internet Explorer 6.x, there was really no comparison. Firefox's tabbed browsing, perceived advantages in security and extensive extensions support -- not to mention the fact that it wasn't a Microsoft product -- have played a role in guaranteeing Firefox's success. It's a totally different ball game, however, with Internet Explorer 7.0.

Internet Explorer 7.0 adds many of the features that is has been lacking in comparison to Firefox including tabbed browsing, an improved printing engine, integrated anti-phishing technology, RSS support and beefed up security. Disappointingly, there’s still no centralized extension system with Internet Explorer 7.0. According to Scott Graff, Microsoft program manager for IE7 Compatibility, the browser will be released this month:

The final release of IE7 is fast approaching … and I mean really fast … and will be delivered to customers via Automatic Updates a few weeks after it’s available for download. We want to ensure that you are ready and the information below will help get you there. Compatibility with sites, extensions and applications has been a very high priority for us as we develop new features, enhance the existing features and move the platform forward to be more secure and standards compliant.  We are continually listening to feedback from our customers, partners and leaders in the industry to resolve major compatibility issues to ensure our common customers have a great experience with IE7.

Firefox 2.0 RC2 was released this past Friday, while RC3 is expected sometime next week. The Mozilla Foundation isn't expected to release the final version of Firefox 2.0 to the public until November.

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i just hope that
By S3anister on 10/10/2006 10:32:55 AM , Rating: 1
the videos will work right in IE7 now, cause the beta that i have for x64 edition, none of the videos on places like or work.

RE: i just hope that
By UserDoesNotExist on 10/10/2006 10:46:20 AM , Rating: 1
I have that problem with the x64 IE 7.0 that is included in the 64-bit install of Vista. If you're using x64 Vista, use "Internet Explorer" instead of "Internet Explorer (64-bit)". The former is the 32-bit version, which I haven't had any problems with. I hope they do resolve this soon as well.

RE: i just hope that
By bubbl07 on 10/10/2006 10:58:29 AM , Rating: 1
Flash is 32-bit and doesn't work natively in 64-bit browsers, so one must use an emulated 32-bit binary (i.e. 32-bit Firefox or IE).

RE: i just hope that
By mgambrell on 10/10/2006 11:47:10 AM , Rating: 2
Just a technical note.. theres nothing 'emulated' about 32bit apps in x64. 64bit cpus know how to run 32bit code if the OS sets up the process correctly.

RE: i just hope that
By finalfan on 10/10/2006 1:20:35 PM , Rating: 2
All activeX controls are 32bit and they are supposed to run in the same process of the IE. However, the x64 IE is 64bit, there is no way the 32bit activeX control can run in a 64bit process.

RE: i just hope that
By Illy on 10/10/2006 1:34:17 PM , Rating: 2
While that's TECHNICALLY true, it's not how it works in Windows. Windows x64 uses the WoW64 (Windows on Windows) emulation layer to run 32-bit apps, just like Windows 95 used the original WoW to run 16-bit apps. This emulation layer is very effiecent, but it does still add a small amount of overhead to 32-bit apps.

RE: i just hope that
By aGreenAgent on 10/10/2006 1:35:25 PM , Rating: 2
Well, in a 64 bit system, all 32-bit programs are denoted with a *32. So I'm going to go ahead and assume that the OS sets up the stack and everything differently than it would for a 64-bit app to deal with the 32-bits (32 bit pointers, etc). Whether or not you consider that emulation is a different story.

RE: i just hope that
By mgambrell on 10/10/2006 3:56:56 PM , Rating: 2
Alright guys, touche. I guess you could say that wow64 is emulating a win32 environment for the 32bit processes.

One one hand, you have some little compatibility hacks and then on the other the entire emulated environment. wow64 lies in the middle.

On one hand, you have the machine instructions being interpreted in software and then on the other being interpreted natively by the cpu. 32bit on x64 lies firmly in the latter.

I guess my point was not that theres "nothing emulated about it" but that its somewhat complicated and the mere unqualified label "emulated" carries negative connotations which I do not feel can be justly applied to wow64, as it does an exquisite job.

RE: i just hope that
By rushfan2006 on 10/10/2006 11:04:38 AM , Rating: 3
If it works decent and looks good I'll give it a whirl.

I'm a very routine and boringly predictable websurfer anymore...there are only 6 websites I ever go to and one of them is for my mortgage company and another includes my insurance company....

So yeah to me pretty much a browser is a browser is a browser.

RE: i just hope that
By MonkeyPaw on 10/10/2006 2:35:59 PM , Rating: 2
I'm with you. I don't venture far on the WWW anymore. However, a large part of my time is spent commenting and moderating in a few forums, so I'm a huge fan of FF2's spell checker. I'm surprised MS hasn't run with this idea, since Office has used this feature for years. OSX has a universal spell checker, and I figured Vista (or at least IE7) would do the same.

RE: i just hope that
By Spivonious on 10/10/2006 3:50:49 PM , Rating: 2
If they put that in they'd probably get fined by the EU :-P

RE: i just hope that
By imaheadcase on 10/10/2006 12:50:22 PM , Rating: 2
I still have to use IE to view lots of webpages with videos. can't view videos unless use IE. Kinda sucks you would think they would have a standard with videos online.

RE: i just hope that
By Murst on 10/10/2006 12:52:11 PM , Rating: 2
Real Player wanted to be the standard... I'm glad that didn't go through.

RE: i just hope that
By TomZ on 10/10/2006 1:10:34 PM , Rating: 2
Yea, I think they did switched over to using WMP - I think they used Flash previous to that, but I'm not totally sure. Their new videos don't play in Opera either.

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