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Report from survey reveals tons of stats on gamers

Consulting and research firm Nielsen Entertainment released its third annual Active Gamer Benchmark Study, which shows that the social elements of video games are becoming an increasingly important part of the overall gaming experience.

Surveys for the 2006 Active Gamer Benchmark Study were conducted online from July 3rd to July 9th with 2,200 Active Gamers, who were 13 years old or over, owned a gaming device and played games at least one hour per week.

The research found that among the roughly 117 million Active Gamers in the U.S. in 2006, more than half (56%) play games online, and that 64% of all online gamers are women.

Moreover, while gaming has conventionally been thought of as a solitary experience, the new study reveals that Active Gamers spend upwards of 5 hours a week playing games socially, led by teenagers who are socially involved in gaming about 7 hours per week.

The research also shows that although teenagers continue to comprise the largest percentage (40%) of Active Gamers, more than 15 million of these gamers (almost 8%) are now 45 years or older. While women make up nearly two- thirds of all online gamers, men still outnumber women in the overall video game universe by more than two-to-one.

 More from the press release:
    * Though older females make-up the largest percentage of casual gamers,
      active gamer teens and young adults also comprise a considerable portion
      of this market, with more than half playing casual games an hour or more
      a week.

    * Demonstrating a loyal fan base, the majority of Active Gamers who say
      they usually pre-order a title, or buy it the first day of its release,
      choose Role Playing games.  But while such games typically are thought
      of as catering to the older gaming audience, they are the most popular
      genre among active game playing teens.

    * With next-generation gaming building steam, what will drive Active
      Gamers to these advanced console platforms will be the desire for better
      graphics and richer game play experiences.

Just a few years ago, talk within the gaming industry speculated whether the personal computer could survive as a viable gaming system and successfully compete against console giants and handhelds. Nonetheless, PC-based gaming recently has evolved into a platform that provides a unique gaming experience for vastly different gaming audiences.

Among casual gamers, for example, online games offer simple and engaging encounters that are attracting both existing and new gamer audiences, especially older women. Plus, the growth in broadband access has helped redefine Massively Multiplayer Online Games (MMOG) that let communities of gamers connect in ways that consoles and handheld platforms can't match.

Even so, handhelds, like online games, have themselves experienced the most growth year-over-year, thanks to innovative software and hardware, plus expanding multimedia options.

Given the penetration of personal computers in U.S. households, it is not surprising that 64% of Active Gamers play on PC-based systems. These systems offer users connected experiences through Massively Multiplayer Online Games that other platforms cannot match. Personal computers also are the platform of choice for players of casual games, especially among women, 64% of whom play video games online.

Among the console universe, Sony's PlayStation 2 dominates overall ownership at 59%. This is followed by nearly matching levels of ownership between Microsoft's Xbox (33%) and Nintendo's GameCube (30%). With Microsoft's Xbox 360, the newest console entrée into the market, having 15% ownership among Active Gamers. Notably, there is large cross ownership among Active Gamers and systems. The majority of Active Gamers also own at least a console and one other platform, with the level of cross-ownership between consoles and handhelds more than doubling (7% to 16%) between 2005 and 2006 to date. This is due, in large part, to the Nintendo DS and the Sony PSP and the unique gaming experiences they provide to millions of gamers

But unlike consoles, handheld ownership among Active Gamers is significantly more gender balanced. Furthermore, there is surprising power in portability. Active Gamers generally average about 14 hours a week on their consoles, while they often play as much as 17 hours a week on handhelds. About one quarter (24%) of Active Gamers also play games on their mobile phones.

During the past six months, Active Gamers purchased, on average, four games. Of those, 90% were bought in retail stores, with the remaining 10% purchased online. On average, Active Gamers spend 47 hours playing each individual game they've purchased.

But video games must compete for wallet share and clock time with other forms of entertainment. Active Gamers spend an average of $58 a week on entertainment, $16 of which goes to video games. They also average about a quarter of their weekly leisure time (13 out of 55.3 hours) playing video games. After gaming, music is the second most popular activity among the majority Active Gamer groups, though it is tied for first among females at nine hours.

For more on this study of gamers, check out GameDaily's chat with  Emily Della Maggiora, Senior VP of Nielsen Interactive Entertainment.

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I really doubt this
By underline21 on 10/7/2006 4:11:03 PM , Rating: 5
Surveys for the 2006 Active Gamer Benchmark Study were conducted online from July 3rd to July 9th with 2,200 Active Gamers , who were 13 years old or over, owned a gaming device and played games at least one hour per week.

Am I wrong or is all their research based on this tiny sampling of gamers?

RE: I really doubt this
By ThisSpaceForRent on 10/7/2006 4:21:46 PM , Rating: 3
Most of the surveys done use about the same sample group size. I remember in a boring research writing class I had where it had this huge chart of how large a sample group was compared to it's statistical significance. I think the bigger concern for this study isn't so much the sample size, but if you can trust the people filling out the survey. I would think a study like this would have a rather hefty margin of error for the results.

RE: I really doubt this
By JS on 10/7/2006 4:47:46 PM , Rating: 3
If the selection of respondents is correct (i.e. representative of the group that is supposedly being analyzed), it doesn't really matter if you interview a thousand people or a million, the numbers will be almost exactly the same. The hard part is getting a representative selection, which can be very difficult (practically impossible, even).

RE: I really doubt this
By Christopher1 on 10/7/2006 10:11:40 PM , Rating: 3
That is true, get a representative group of the population of the world or a group as a whole is almost impossible.

That's why I don't buy many psychological studies and criminal studies, because there are two problems: one, they only look at CRIMINALS in criminal studies and two, for psychological studies, they only look at people who come to them with problems!

The same problem appears here: what if there is a HUGE group of male gamers, who don't want to say they are gamers for fear of being stereotyped.

RE: I really doubt this
By ydgmdlu on 10/8/2006 8:39:30 PM , Rating: 2
The same problem appears here: what if there is a HUGE group of male gamers, who don't want to say they are gamers for fear of being stereotyped.

That's pretty much nonsense. If the participants are asked anonymously and individually, there's very little reason for anybody to lie. Think about it: If you were in this situation, why would you lie for fear of being stereotyped? Stereotyped by whom, exactly?

RE: I really doubt this
By zinfamous on 10/9/2006 1:30:28 PM , Rating: 2
It's not so much that respondents are worried about being stereotyped. I think the main problem with such surveys that rely on subjective analysis is in the respondent not wanting to admit something about themselves, for personal reasons.

When I see a survey that offers options of b/w 1-5 hours per week; 6-10 hours...or 15-30 hours per week of gaming, I know that I don't want to admit to myself that the last option is most accurate!

For one thing, I wouldn't consider myself a gamer in that I tend to play only one or very few games; I just happen to spend way too much time playing them. Not that it really means anything, but I don't play FPSs at all...which I tend to classify as the gamer staple.

RE: I really doubt this
By Hare on 10/7/2006 4:48:45 PM , Rating: 3
Maybe the girls want to participate in the poll just to show that there are indeed lot's of women gamers while guys just think it's another stupid poll and skip it?

RE: I really doubt this
By Girls4r on 10/7/2006 5:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe the girls want to participate in the poll just to show that there are indeed lot's of women gamers while guys just think it's another stupid poll and skip it?

^^^ What he said more girls will do surveys imo

RE: I really doubt this
By clayclws on 10/8/2006 3:34:12 AM , Rating: 3
Haha...exactly. I would spend more time on gaming than participating in surveys.

RE: I really doubt this
By granulated on 10/9/2006 6:22:54 AM , Rating: 2

Seems that a lot of girl gamers prefer to 'advertise' that they're girls by calling themselves "FoxyBabe69" or whatever.

RE: I really doubt this
By Pythias on 10/9/2006 11:23:01 AM , Rating: 1
Seems that a lot of girl gamers prefer to 'advertise' that they're girls by calling themselves "FoxyBabe69" or whatever.

You mean a lot of sexually deviant creeps who like to pose as women.

Most of the women online are either really fat chicks or even fatter men.

RE: I really doubt this
By granulated on 10/20/2006 2:19:29 PM , Rating: 2
yeh, that too ! :D

RE: I really doubt this
By yacoub on 10/7/2006 5:47:57 PM , Rating: 3
not only that but "gaming" obviously includes non-FPS, non-RTS games, and probably focuses heavily on stuff like WoW, poker, and online versions of boardgames. All of those have a much much higher percentage of women players than, for example, CounterStrike or FEAR.

RE: I really doubt this
By Orpheus333 on 10/8/2006 2:56:14 AM , Rating: 3
I'm sure if you include internet backgammon, hearts, reversi...ect.. all those MS games- thats probably considered "internet gaming."

RE: I really doubt this
By zinfamous on 10/9/2006 1:50:25 PM , Rating: 2
Very true. However, the poll doesn't seek to define what a "gamer" is. I would think that someone who devotes 100% of their online gaming time to playing poker wouldn't really be considered a "gamer" among all the other "gamers."

When I hear gamer, I imagine someone who spends the majority of their income on building a system (at least every 2 years or so...) for the express purpose of playing games.

Also, I don't imagine the female respondents to this survey (probably the majority of whom play The Sims) being that interested in the goings-on of gaming tournaments and what not.

As far as culling some demographics on people who play online games, this is probably the best type of survey that can be done, although it is certainly flawed. (Isn't "at least 1 hour per week" a bit of an understatement for all the WoW players?)

RE: I really doubt this
By IceTron on 10/7/06, Rating: 0
RE: I really doubt this
By JeffDM on 10/8/2006 9:32:24 AM , Rating: 3
There's more to games than FPS games. I would say that the women probably don't play FPSs online as a general rule, but there are several other genres that are probably a lot more attractive.

Another thing is that the women often just don't say they are women just so they don't get unwanted attention.

RE: I really doubt this
By n7 on 10/8/2006 12:30:35 AM , Rating: 2
LOL @ women outnumbering guys in online gaming.


RE: I really doubt this
By Souka on 10/8/2006 1:23:11 AM , Rating: 2
Playing solitaire on-line doesn't count....take that away and all the women secretaries, pardon me, administrative assistants, "playing online" would be excluded...which make up 90% of the women using computers....

(btw, this is just Sarcasm....get a life if yer offended)


RE: I really doubt this
By ViperROhb34 on 10/8/2006 11:54:52 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I in know way - shape - or form .. give this SURVEY any credible basis..

These kind of surveys put John Kerry wayy ahead of Bush..
only problem was those surveys didn't include enough people in the south :P

The only girls I know who play online do it at MSN and play board games..

RE: I really doubt this
By JazzMang on 10/9/2006 12:22:59 PM , Rating: 2
know way indeed.

RE: I really doubt this
By MrSmurf on 10/8/2006 3:26:08 PM , Rating: 1
How many of these are guys pretending to be girls?

RE: I really doubt this
By MrSmurf on 10/8/2006 3:27:58 PM , Rating: 1
How many of these are guys pretending to be girls?

RE: I really doubt this
By rushfan2006 on 10/10/2006 10:34:51 AM , Rating: 2
I find it funny that their criteria is only 1 hour a week. Well yeah if you only use that as a criteria of course you'll have tons of gamers...hell my gf HATES and know you don't understand...she HATES computers..but yet she'll play "hearts" about 20 minutes a session a few times a week...while she's cooking dinner, by no stretch of the imagination would I call her a gamer...but yet by this "study" she is classified a gamer.

As for Women online for real...we can debate about that issue until the cows come home...but I do know that in WoW...there are lots of women in my guild...out of about 78 unique players (meaning not counting their various alts) about 35 are women....and of those 20 I know for fact are real actual women (because I hear their voices on vent, have seen them in RL (friends or friends of co-workers kind of deals) and from pictures)...the other 15 rarely play when I do..but I think they are just going by their conversations and the fact that they say they

Lastly, I find it interesting that they say the largest amount of time spent gaming is about 13 hours a week. Admittably I do about 25 hours a week. However, my point here is I know many many gamers both on-line and in RL....and a very high percentage of them game at least as much as I do a week, and some even more.

Female Gamers
By nowayout99 on 10/7/2006 5:10:00 PM , Rating: 5
The online games the survey is referencing are basically the moms that play Yahoo and/or Pogo games for hours on end (and they do).

It sorta skews the results. You won't see my mom playing WOW or HL2, but she's obsessed with Pogo.

RE: Female Gamers
By Spacecomber on 10/7/2006 5:36:38 PM , Rating: 4
This was the impression that I had from a previous report on female online gamers. They mostly will be found playing games that are basically familiar card and board games online.

I find it misleading that this survey didn't say much about this big difference in the kinds of games that males and females are likely to be found playing.

RE: Female Gamers
By JeffDM on 10/8/2006 9:33:21 AM , Rating: 2
Isn't there a lot of egotism involved here? It's playing games online, whether it is at Yahoo or HalfLife. I don't see why you people are turning up your noses as if it's not really playing games. This sort of attitude reminds me of some wine connoisseurs.

RE: Female Gamers
By Spacecomber on 10/8/2006 12:46:24 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think I'm posting my comment out of egotism. I'm just addressing the apparent confusion about why many of the folks who have posted above aren't aware of that many females in the games that they play.

The study, at least as presented in the DailyTech summary, doesn't seem to make note of how males and females are likely to be found playing very different games.

As noted by others, this seems to be the kind of thing that marketing types would be very interested in knowing.

RE: Female Gamers
By pablo906 on 10/8/2006 11:38:31 AM , Rating: 3
That however is still gaming. If someone plays online bejeweled or 2 player snake race it's still gaming. What is the difference in playing a puzzle game and playing a FPS? It's our stereotypes that are the difference. I'm all for this study and I think it is likely accurate. One think to keep in mind is that they really should have broken it down to what games are most often played and/or favorite games. This would have been a much better marketing study than the informative study it's trying to be.

By S3anister on 10/7/2006 3:55:52 PM , Rating: 2
Go us teenagers!

lol.. i feel bad... sometimes i log 7 hours a day just into CS:S.

and this study, is kind of hard to believe. i seriously have never seen more than 1 female gamer in a server at a time.

RE: hmmm
By mushi799 on 10/7/2006 3:59:53 PM , Rating: 2
dont know many girls that play FPS games. But i know quite a few that play WOW and Sims type games.

RE: hmmm
By ahkey on 10/7/2006 4:02:17 PM , Rating: 2
Because all female gamers use blatently femanine avatars and aliases. ;)

Besides which, in a game like CS, there aren't any female chars to play.

RE: hmmm
By shady3005 on 10/7/2006 4:09:15 PM , Rating: 2
I play online games .. and i dunno any gals at all :(

RE: hmmm
By PrinceGaz on 10/7/2006 10:29:06 PM , Rating: 3
You should try turning off your computer and venturing out into the "real world" ;)

RE: hmmm
By Samus on 10/8/2006 4:29:40 AM , Rating: 2
I've known 3 gamer chicks my whole life, and they're all geeks.

RE: hmmm
By L1NUXownz1fUR1337 on 10/9/2006 2:16:11 AM , Rating: 2
"women gamers" - that's an oxymoron

I suggest you go to a girl power server - I did that because I was really bored.

I pwned for hours only using my knife - sure they're "gamers" but at the noob level.

She's either a 1500 pound beached whale or she crys when she breaks a nail and she sucks(in skillz ... gaming ).

Not my type
By Ringold on 10/7/2006 5:32:28 PM , Rating: 2
In my years of lurking at places like Space Empires forums, Stars! forums, BotF forums and other worthy 4x strategy game forums, the male:female ratio had to be at least 50:1.

This survey is like saying girls watch TV as much as guys. Yes, but they're watching Grey's Anatomy, and I'm watching the Colonial insurgency blow up Cylon Heavy Raiders on New Caprica, or a small team from Stargate Atlantis return to the Pegasus Galaxy to try to repel those.. replicator guys. Or if I'm watching a medical show, it's House, carrying on it his usual sarcastic way and most recently getting hit on by a dangerously hot, underage chick. Not Grey's Anatomy.

Thank god I already found my geek chick.

RE: Not my type
By hopsandmalt on 10/7/2006 7:02:35 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, Im a guy and I love Greys Anatomy. I also watched Battlestar like you, Smallville, Law and Order: SVU and Heroes. (Thank god for Tivo)

Anyway, why do people still stereotype? I think more people should watch shows like Greys Anatomy. Its not just about chicks, alot of good soul searching questions are asked in that show. <shrugs>

Sorry, off topic. Back to todays programming.....

RE: Not my type
By Ringold on 10/7/2006 8:36:48 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed, but as my flaming liberal ACLU rep phd psychology professor said, stereotypes often have a grain of truth. I think statistics would bear out a girl that would watch Grey's Anatomy and, say, Laguna Beach, is definitely not going to know the name of Picard's first command, appreciate Weird Al, or understand why at random moments of success I may mumble "Counter-terrorists win!" :)

And since everybody has their own taste, these 'average' girls that 'outnumber' us in 'games' probably wouldn't be my type ;)

Like I said though, thankfully already got my BSG partner. Even kinda looks like Boomer, which is a large plus..

RE: Not my type
By poohbear on 10/8/2006 11:15:00 PM , Rating: 2
stereotypes have a "grain of truth"?! she doesnt sound too "flaming" liberal to me. so i shouldnt believe blacks are gonna rob me or muslims are gonna explode beside me, but i should be careful, "just in case". puuulease.

RE: Not my type
By AmbroseAthan on 10/9/2006 9:50:28 AM , Rating: 2
I don't know about robbing me, but they sure kick my white butt all around the basketball court. Of course, I can take them in hockey normally!

And stereotypes do have a "grain of truth," it is how they became stereotypes. Your two comments are not stereotypes, but racist remarks based out of someone's ignorant fear (not your own fear, just in general).

Irish people like potatoes is a better example of a stereotype; and we drink like fish too.

RE: Not my type
By Pythias on 10/9/2006 11:24:46 AM , Rating: 2
Irish people like potatoes is a better example of a stereotype; and we drink like fish too.

No "we" dont.

By medavid16 on 10/7/2006 4:30:28 PM , Rating: 2
Haha, I'm in the medical field and if anything like this was ever "published and announced", you'd be laughed out of the community and be looking for a new job.

This is a SERIOUSLY flawed study. First, most people didn't even know about this "survey", second, male/female i dare say that men tend to jump right into the game and laugh off the survey whereas women will tend to take a minute and answer some monkey questions (not everyone, just a tendency). And as someone else has said, the sample size is actually ok, not too big, not too small, but there it is flawed by "selection bias," something that researchers always try to avoid but is definitely present in this "research."

It's not research. It's a commercial. But don't take my word for it, the easiest way to tell... walk into any internet cafe and count men vs women at ANY internet cafe at ANY time. There's your answer.

RE: haha
By Hakuryu on 10/7/2006 5:00:47 PM , Rating: 2
You bash the study, and then tell us
the easiest way to tell... walk into any internet cafe and count men vs women at ANY internet cafe at ANY time. There's your answer.
. So walking into a cafe and counting the men versus women is a good enough sample population, and the one from the news isn't?

I've seen alot of women gamers, not in shooters but in MUD's, MMORPG's, puzzle games, and games like the Sims. What I don't see is alot of women gaming like men do... carrying consoles over to a house or going to lan parties. Just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there. This study is broadly based, not just covering shooters, but all gaming, and I find it easy to believe there are more women gamers.

RE: haha
By hopsandmalt on 10/7/2006 6:58:27 PM , Rating: 5
I am in the medical field as well. What ever that means. Really.

Anyway, your logic is, well, flawed.

Since when does everyone in the world have to know about a survey to make it legit? That doesnt make sense.

The title of the article, and I think the premise of the survey is Online Gaming. The problem with us male gamers is that we think online gaming consists of FPS, or MMOs. There is a WHOLE world of online gaming out there.

Also, you cant stereotype men or women like you have in survey taking. I know many guys that are Type A and read the fine print, and many women that want to move on as quickly as possible and get past the fine print. Obviously, all of these people were part of the survey, they all CHOSE to do it and thus completed it.

THe last comment, internet cafe is faulty at best. What kind of internet cafe? Do they serve coffee, or do they serve lattes. Does it serve sandwiches, or does it serve burgers. Does it appeal to women, does it appeal to men? Does the area (in which the cafe exists) have high speed internet access? Does the internet cafe only advertise FPS or MMO's? I mean there are so many variables that makes that statement not stick. Anyway.

In MMO's and FPS's certainly not. Men outnumber the women. Heck I have been in the same guild for 5 years now. We have over a 150 members and I would have to say we are probably sitting at 10% women. Of course we are a MMO guild so that filters out any other online type of game.

I find it also interesting the number of men that play female characters.

By flexy on 10/7/2006 5:05:29 PM , Rating: 2
the us has 290 Mio people right now,

and 117 Mio of them are "active gamers" ? :)

Nice, but i seriously DOUBT that number.

By flexy on 10/7/2006 5:08:17 PM , Rating: 2
..but then...looking at my GF....hmmmmmm :)
(GF is a serious gamer, but she plays RPGs and strategy games :)

By SNM on 10/7/2006 6:13:01 PM , Rating: 2
Their definition of "active gamer" is...loose. 1 hour/week?

By GhandiInstinct on 10/7/06, Rating: 0
RE: meh
By Xenoid on 10/7/2006 6:17:45 PM , Rating: 5
girl = guy in real life

RE: meh
By GhandiInstinct on 10/8/2006 1:35:59 AM , Rating: 1
I think if WoW teaches anything, its to distinguish between the male and female behind the avatar.

Especially when you're in a guild, you know exactly who is what :)

By tk109 on 10/7/2006 4:15:45 PM , Rating: 2
The Sims Online...

RE: ...
By Desslok on 10/7/2006 4:29:45 PM , Rating: 2
I think they confused guys that pretend ther are girls with real girls.

oh God
By medavid16 on 10/7/06, Rating: 0
RE: oh God
By brien86 on 10/7/06, Rating: 0
RE: oh God
By KristopherKubicki on 10/7/2006 10:02:18 PM , Rating: 2
If that wasn't an invitation for an asswhooping i don't know what is. There's a few female DT readers I know of that school me in any XBOX game i pick up. :(

RE: oh God
By Milliamp on 10/8/2006 5:08:12 AM , Rating: 2
I think they are counting simple browser based flash games. I know many girls in the customer service department in my company play those when they are idle (they used to actually knit, lol).

By ktlewis02 on 10/7/2006 9:42:40 PM , Rating: 2
Just because someone in game avatar is female does not make them female. Hahaha

By Christopher1 on 10/7/2006 10:13:39 PM , Rating: 2
That's true. I make female characters in online rpg's all the time if they allow it, just to have a perspective of playing a different character that isn't available in a male persona.

Silly boys.
By Sair on 10/10/2006 4:43:14 AM , Rating: 2
Women don't play games? Tell that to the most pimped out Monk on my server (FFXI), a player who is widely considered one of the best crafters on the server and is leaving the game after completing a relic weapon that took a year of sponsored raids. Tell that to the chicks competing for thousands of Euros at the yearly female Counter-Strike tournament ( Or hey, tell it to me, a girl who has been gaming actively (30+ hours/week occasionally) since the age of five.

I mean, seriously, are you guys for real?

If you think women only play Solitaire (because we're all lolsecretaries, am I rite?) and Sims games, you're grossly misinformed. We're on your Halo servers, we're in your Guilds, we Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right-B-A with the best of them. And believe it or not, some of us do not enjoy being branded a "lootwhore" or even "noob" -- do you really blame us for not advertising our sex?

RE: Silly boys.
By Xietsu on 10/11/2006 9:28:27 AM , Rating: 2
MmmMmm...I think it's kinda' awkward that you reply with an attempt at efforts of rebuffing your standing in the typical game type viewed by the male gamer. What you need to do is merely consider that the statistic developed behind "online games" would even factor in all games that just have some system making recognition with an online server (say, a one that has a database for ranked scores); just the inclusion of some transmission requiring an internet network is what this criterion establishes. Sair, I commend your involvement in the realm of video gaming -- quite unique and assuredly possessive of a greater acuity than the general female -- but you need realize that the sample ratio of gender comparison is in fact low in the "high dollar" type sectors of video game life. Yes, comprehend the conceptuality behind the complexity. Life can be tough, don't cry anybody.

Nielsen == BULLSHIT
By brien86 on 10/7/2006 9:19:07 PM , Rating: 1
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE pay attention to this article. It's total bullshit. Girls DO NOT play video games. They DO play Tetris, etc. on their cell phones, but that's it. Maybe they included those stats... Anywayz, the next time Nielsen posts some political survey you should all remember what OBVIOUS BULLSHIT they push.

This article shows ONCE AGAIN that the world is TOTALLY out of touch with GenX. You don't know us, stop pretending.

RE: Nielsen == BULLSHIT
By flexy on 10/8/2006 1:51:17 AM , Rating: 2
actually, you are wrong !

I know quite a BUNCH of girls and grown up women in their 40s/50s who are extreme-gamers.

With extreme i mean playing Oblivion on 60" plasma for 10hrs or longer straight several days/week..or some friends playing any RPGs even known to man (uhm..woman) :)

My GF is a FAR more extreme gamer than me (hey, i kmow, this is ex-wife did NOT game at all :)....i play HL:2DM or similiar occasionally, a few hours...but then do something else.

She has several consoles, a lappy and a old desktop...and she plays all console games on "extreme" mode because she played them already a few times, needless to say she knows every corner/bad guy etc. and knows how to beat all those games.

I could list a bunch of games, Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, KOTOR, Civ, etc..etc which she plays *religiously*, repeatedly, on "exreme" i was playing a few hours when i had 'em but she literally mastered them...she knows every frickin' cheat and exploit in eg. Morrowind, how to make insane amounts of moneys ..she can spend HOURS just selling items, does that over and over 'til she has millions of gold etc..etc...things i never even knew existed or bothered :)

So....just from my own experience i think i can prove you wrong. Girls can be gamers, but still i think that survey has issues :)

By kextyn on 10/8/2006 1:11:16 AM , Rating: 1
It's very obvious how they came to this conclusion and where they got these numbers. Any real gamer would be playing games, not taking stupid surveys. Where did they put this survey, as a popup ad when you log into Yahoo! games?

RE: Obvious
By JeffDM on 10/8/2006 9:48:30 AM , Rating: 2
Any real gamer would be playing games, not taking stupid surveys.

That's specious reasoning. Let's reword it a bit and see why: Any real gamer would be playing games, not posting to stupid forums. Therefore, I have to ask, why are you posting here when you could be playing games?

Besides, how do you define "real" gamers? Do you define them as those that play games fairly regularly or do you unnecessarily restrict the definition to those that play games to the expense of everything else? How do you know that non-gamer guys would have any patience to fill out a survey. Maybe they'd rather be playing sports or just watching them rather than filling out surveys.

I really doubt it, but....
By sxr7171 on 10/7/2006 9:25:45 PM , Rating: 2
Whenever I play Animal Crossing I run into lots of women.

this is way off
By ttnuagadam on 10/7/2006 9:29:15 PM , Rating: 2
ok ive played wow for like a year and a half, and the guy to girl ratio is something like 10:1, i dont know WHERE they got this information but its waaay off. unless most girls dont make it to endgame in games like wow i dont see how this could even be close to the truth. id like to see what games were involved in this poll.

By bobsmith1492 on 10/8/2006 12:08:03 AM , Rating: 2
It isn't the first of April yet... booo!

By littlejim68 on 10/8/2006 1:08:43 AM , Rating: 2
I think many are missing the point that it’s the social games that are attracting women more. I play Second Life where women vastly outnumber the men. In fact there are more then a few females, that I know there, playing men characters online.

This is not the first survey to show women out number men in social games like MMORPG’s.

To any fellow Second Lifers out there: LittleJim Tank waves

You know...
By knowyourenemy on 10/8/2006 3:39:57 AM , Rating: 2
The biggest question is asking what percentage of that number is actually crossdressing. Oooh, how'd I'd love to get a doctorial thesis in Psychology on how many men crossdress in online gaming. Funny thought, no?

PS: Excuse my poor grammar, I am highly drunk.

Nielsen and TV ratings
By Kuroyama on 10/8/2006 11:07:29 AM , Rating: 2
And this is the same company that comes up with the ratings of TV shows every week. If this is the quality of their statistics then I guess we now know why Firefly got canceled.

Women play..
By Hacp on 10/8/2006 9:40:33 PM , Rating: 2
Neopets, Sims, Sims2, and all those stupid wacky games.

By granulated on 10/9/2006 6:19:27 AM , Rating: 2
So wrong it's ridiculous.

Were they really females....?
By xKelemvor on 10/9/2006 9:33:42 AM , Rating: 2
How many of them were really guys pretending to be women? Heh. Most MMORPGS when you see a chick, it's really a guy at the controls.... :)

Guys playing girls
By rcc on 10/9/2006 6:45:53 PM , Rating: 2
I've asked a lot of the (not really) women characters why they play females in game. The response generally boils down to 2 reasons.

1)Lots of people give me stuff in-game.

2) I'm going to look at the back side of this avatar for xx hours per week, who's tail would you rather look at?

Obviously this is for MMORGs; EQ, AC, WoW, etc.

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