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45nm products arriving 2H'07

Intel CEO Paul Otellini was not shy to talk about the upcoming 45nm process nodes the company has planned for the second half of 2007.  At the center of this new process evolution is the Fab D1D in Hillsboro, Oregon.  Intel's D1D Fab in Oregon is already producing test wafers, and will be the first CPU facility at Intel to ship 45nm silicon. The D1D facility is a lean 220,000 square feet and Intel's first 45nm Fab.

However, Intel has two more 45nm fabs coming online within the next 18 months.  Intel Fab 32 in Arizona is expected to come online in late 2007. A third 45nm fab, dubbed Fab 28 in Israel, is coming online in 2008.  

The three 45nm facilities represent more than 500,000 square feet of cleanroom space, and more than $9 billion in investment. AMD recently invested $2.5 billion into transforming its Dresden Fab 30 into Fab 38 and is also expected to spend a total of $5.8 billion in upgrading its Dresden Fabs. AMD does not plan on having 45nm products until mid-2008 though.

Going from 65nm to 45nm is very prominent on Intel's roadmap. Intel CEO Paul Otellini said that Intel currently has 15 45nm products in development, and designs for several of them will be completed next year. Until 2008 however, 65nm technology will still be the most prominent technology. Intel said that its first 45nm processor will be Nehalem, which will go into production sometime in 2007 and be introduced in 2008.

The move to 45nm will also bring along such features as higher clock speeds, more cores per processor and more cache per processor. Intel is also claiming that 45nm processors will achieve a 300% increase in performance-per-watt.

Otellini outlined that the first 45nm processors from the company would run off the production lines in late 2007, but the actual product family will ship in 2008.  The Nehalem product family will ship in 2008 and replace the existing "Core" family of processors shipping today on the 65nm node.


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interesting
By ForumMaster on 9/26/2006 2:36:49 PM , Rating: 2
do you know where in Israel the new fab will be?




RE: interesting
By Jkm3141 on 9/26/06, Rating: 0
RE: interesting
By S3anister on 9/27/2006 2:54:51 PM , Rating: 2
NEDM


RE: interesting
By Tsuwamono on 10/2/06, Rating: 0
RE: interesting
By crystal clear on 9/26/2006 2:43:04 PM , Rating: 2
KIRYAT GAT


RE: interesting
By Naviblue on 9/26/2006 3:24:54 PM , Rating: 3
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Isreal and neighboring Muslim countries in a state of war? I mean if that Fab gets blown up, bye bye 2008 for Intel? At least, that's the first thing that threw up a "red flag" for me.


RE: interesting
By therealnickdanger on 9/26/2006 3:35:59 PM , Rating: 2
Must be worth the risk or not as bad for Israel as the media hypes it, otherwise I doubt a company as like Intel would do it. Besides, Israel can handle herself quite well. With the US as an ally, they aren't going anywhere for a while.


RE: interesting
By Goty on 9/26/2006 3:51:05 PM , Rating: 2
Intel's R&D center in Haifa has a bomb shelter from which they were able to conduct their work from during the recent troubles there. I suspect the new fab will have something along those lines.


RE: interesting
By ahock on 9/26/2006 4:25:15 PM , Rating: 1
that's a good point. But to answer your question with a question. How sure are we that the Arizona and Oregon sites are safe also? I mean we live in a risky world and everything we do is no assurance for what will happen tomorrow. See what happened in World Trade center.


RE: interesting
By dunno99 on 9/26/2006 4:48:05 PM , Rating: 2
Obviously I'm going off-topic here...but c'mon, bombing Oregon and Arizona? That's just FUD. Any terrorist that wants to bomb a bunch of ski resorts or deserts in the middle of nowhere probably doesn't have the mental capacity to buy the cow manure to make bombs with without getting caught.


RE: interesting
By bwmccann on 9/27/2006 12:39:52 AM , Rating: 2
And where is it exactly that you live? Phoenix (which is 17 miles away from Chandler where F12/22/32 resides) is the 6th largest metropolitan area in the US. I wouldn't say it just a desert.


RE: interesting
By Rad T on 9/27/2006 2:10:17 AM , Rating: 2
You mean 6th largest in terms of the desert acreage within the metro area?:-) Certainly not in terms of population, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, NY, LA, Chicago, SF, Dallas, Houston, LA, NY, Philadephia, SF, and Washington are all larger and certainly more likely as a target for many reasons.


RE: interesting
By obstreperous on 9/27/2006 2:57:52 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, NY, LA, Chicago, SF, Dallas, Houston, LA, NY, Philadephia, SF, and Washington


Certainly not as large as two Chicago's, two NY's, two SF's and two LA's.

What's with the repetition?


RE: interesting
By bwmccann on 9/27/2006 10:06:38 AM , Rating: 2
No I mean in population. Take a look for yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_U...

Not sure why people think Phoenix is so small. Besides Dallas and Houston where the heck do you think everyone is moving?


RE: interesting
By masher2 (blog) on 9/27/2006 12:12:26 PM , Rating: 2
Those statistics are a little misleading, as cities such as Phoenix, Dallas, and Houston rank much higher than they really are, due to the geographical size of their city limits. A far better metric is size of the greater metropolitan area itself, or a simple population density figure...as areas with high population densities are going to be far more vulnerable to a terrorist attack.

With that in mind, compare Philly to Phoenix. For population within the city limits, they're essentially tied...but Philly has almost five TIMES the population density.


RE: interesting
By Rad T on 9/27/2006 5:52:17 PM , Rating: 2
You said 6th largest metro area in the US, but the table is for the population within the city limits. For the actual population of metropolitan areas, look here: http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/Est... or here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_metropo... . The latter states that Phoenix metro is 14th largest in the US.


RE: interesting
By Chillin1248 on 9/28/2006 4:29:30 AM , Rating: 3
Out of curiosity, when was that statistic/article last updated, though you are probably correct.

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RE: interesting
By bwmccann on 9/27/2006 12:43:29 AM , Rating: 2
Israel has been very good for Intel likewise for Intel to Israel. Intel first started there in 1974 and is currently the countries largest employer. Also Kiryat Gat is safely in the middle of Israel.


RE: interesting
By FITCamaro on 9/26/06, Rating: -1
RE: interesting
By Chillin1248 on 9/26/2006 4:23:14 PM , Rating: 5
Mr. Naviblue,

Hello, I currently live in Israel in the north and believe I can answer your question. Qiryat (or spelled Kiryat) Gat is quite a safe place out of general [Read - Early Quassam] rocket range (though the entire Israel is, of course, in range of even the short range rockets fired from the correct foreign soil locations). During the recent war most of the high explosive warheads on the Katyusha rockets were replaced with warheads that consisted of round metal balls and bullets; these were designed to maim and kill as many people as possible and not blow up buildings. So even if the facility in Qiryat Gat gets hit, it is very unlikely it will suffer even light damage. The problem then is getting the labor force convinced that during a time when rockets are falling they should risk their lives for silicon.

And yes, Israel and the neighboring Arab countries are in a constant state of war with flashpoints (i.e.-1956, 1967, 1973, etc). However if that happens, this facility is the lesat of your concerns. The Banias and sequent P-M chips were all designed here in Israel R&D, as well as the current Core architecture; Intel better pray that the R&D centers work or else they will fall far behind.

However there is a flipside to it all, Israeli labor is very cheap by western standards. Even the hightech, a comparitive worker earns a lot less here per capita compared to a high tech worker in the US; this is partly due to the living costs which are lower here. Microsoft, IBM, etc. all have research facilities here.

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RE: interesting
By GhandiInstinct on 9/27/06, Rating: 0
Israel fab in Haifa, well secured.
By Anonymous Freak on 9/26/2006 4:24:13 PM , Rating: 2
Intel already has a facility in Haifa, Israel. It is HEAVILY secured. (Two barbed wire fences, with a large 'no mans land' in between; guards armed with fully automatic weapons.) I used to work at Intel in Hillsboro, Oregon, with someone who had been the director of security there. Scary man. Seemed like he was always half a second from killing you. (And you *KNEW* he had at least two concealed pistols, plus many knives, on him at any given time.) They even have a bomb shelter big enough to house all employees on-site (that was used during the recent crisis with Lebanon.)

The fab is in a safer location toward the center of Israel. http://www.intel.com/museum/exhibit/israel/tour_2....

And this isn't talking about Intel building new fabs, but converting existing ones over to 45 nm. Intel's D1D fab in Oregon is their 'development' fab, where they test all new processes. (Early versions of almost every processor are produced there first, then move on to other fabs as production ramps.)




RE: Israel fab in Haifa, well secured.
By sandpa on 9/26/2006 4:52:35 PM , Rating: 2
Fab 32 in Arizona and Fab 28 in Israel are both brand new fabs and not conversions. The existing fabs in Arizona are ( Fab6 , Fab 12 and Fab 22) and in Israel ( Fab 18 Kiryat Gat and Fab 8 Jerusalem ).


By bwmccann on 9/27/2006 12:46:58 AM , Rating: 2
True none of these are conversions. But eventually the wall that connects F22 and F32 will be broken down and made into the largest single fab in the world. At that point F22 will no longer exist. I also wouldn't call F6 a real fab anymore. The only two that are fully funtional are F12 and F22.


Fast, isn't it?
By Trisped on 9/27/2006 2:19:13 PM , Rating: 2
So in about a year and a half they will be cutting die size in half again? Isn't that a bit fast? I thought the last two reductions took about 3 years each (could be wrong though).




RE: Fast, isn't it?
By masher2 (blog) on 9/27/2006 2:27:09 PM , Rating: 2
Intel switched to 90nm in early 2004, so they spent about 2 years at the node. They'll spend a litle less at 65nm, but certainly nothing extraordinary.


RE: Fast, isn't it?
By peldor on 10/2/2006 3:12:25 PM , Rating: 2
Intel's stated goal is to have new CPUs and new process nodes every two years.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2649


To summarize it all
By crystal clear on 9/27/2006 4:00:14 AM , Rating: 2
Israel is/was the success story of Intel from R&D to production,incl the recent one -Intel R&D Jerusalem &UCSB
(university of california) to develop a proof of concept for an electrically powered hybrid silicon laser using silicon manufacturing processors.(As per Intel)

Israel sounds/appears the most dangerous place to be in the world,in fact when you do come on your business trips ,you realize its exactly opposite.All those fears built up in your head watching TV(news) is shattered ,by observing the Israeli life styles & daily routine-A good place to live in.
Then suddenly you realize how much of the High tech challenges you are missing out,the right place at the right time to be in.Its high tech FAST FORWARD.




RE: To summarize it all
By Chillin1248 on 9/27/2006 5:05:36 PM , Rating: 3
True, the statistics show that everyday seven people are killed in Israel in car related accidents (we have the most insane drivers here).

However the media only reports succesful suicide/terrorist bombings and the aftermath, they do not report the sometimes hundreds of potential bomb/bombers/gunmen that are stopped each week by the superb army/police. That said, Israel is still a very safe and beautiful place to live.

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Nehalem??
By JoKeRr on 9/26/06, Rating: 0
Intel is good at PR but short on results
By Beenthere on 9/26/06, Rating: -1
By obstreperous on 9/26/2006 11:47:55 PM , Rating: 2
I think you're being a bit harsh, sure big companies fumble, but good competition from AMD has resulted in Intel becoming more agile and responsive. Not easy for an entity so large. Core2 came out on time. At the end of the day, current products are impressive and future ones look good aswell. I have no problem with an Iconic company like Intel tailking about products a little over 12 months away.


By bwmccann on 9/27/2006 12:49:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
AMD on the other hand tends to properly develop a new technology and then refine it over time instead of shooting themselves in the foot like Intel.

That is hands down the funniest thing I have heard EVER!!! Do a little history on AMD and you will see that you have the companies mixed up here.

This is coming from someone that has 3 AMD machines too.


By djkrypplephite on 9/27/2006 12:25:39 PM , Rating: 2
That is flat out the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Remind me how it is AMD wins benchmarks against Core 2 Duo. Oh right, they don't, in ANY way, shape, or form. Hell even Woodcrest is faster and uses less power. According to EVERYONE except AMD and AMD fanboys.

90 nm Products were not a failure, Prescott was. 90 nm includes Dothan, which was faster clock for clock than any AMD product. Check it out, a 2.3 GHz Dothan beats an FX-53. True an FX-53 is an older chip now, but so is Dothan, and it was King at the time. Now we have Conroe smashing AMD in everything.

Grow up and get over it, AMD has lost this round. AMD develops new technology? The only original thing they've designed by themselves was x86-64, which is just based off of another technology commonly implemented in RISC processors. HTT was developed by the HTT Consortium, not exclusively by AMD.

In fact, go ahead and look up how AMD got into becoming a competitor with Intel, it should make your day to find out that without Intel funding them and giving them their designs to replicate for free, your precious AMD wouldn't even exist.

You MUST work in AMD's makerting department to be able to deny Core 2 (65 nm) DEMOLISHING AMD in everything. Get over it, you're a whiner.


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