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"Kentsfield" and "Clovertown" Xeons around the corner

Intel is planning to release quad-core Kentsfield based Xeon 3000 seriesprocessors. The new Xeon X3220 and X3210 processors will be identical to the recently named Intel Core 2 Quadro processors and share the same Kentsfield core.


There will be no architectural or socket differences between desktop Core 2 Quadro and Xeon X3000 series processors, with the exception of product placement and marketing. The new Xeon X3220 and X3210 processors will arrive clocked at 2.4 and 2.13 GHz with a 1066 MHz front-side bus respectively. Both Kentsfield Xeon X3000 processors will feature 8MB of L2 cache. Expect the Intel Xeon X3220 and X3210 to arrive in Q1’07 for $851 and $690 in 1,000-unit lots.

Intel Kentsfield Xeon
Processor
Number
Core
Frequency
Bus
Frequency
L2
Cache
Price
X3220 2.40GHz 1066MHz 8MB $851
X3210 2.13GHz 1066MHz 8MB $690

Before Intel releases its Kentsfield based Xeons it will release Clovertown Xeon DP processors. The new Clovertown Xeon DP processors are quad-core and multi-processor enabled. With a compatible LGA771 motherboard users can install two Clovertown processors in a system for eight-core computing. The new Xeons will arrive in X5355, E5345, E5320 and E5310 models clocked at 2.66, 2.33, 1.86 and 1.60 GHz respectively. Intel Xeon DP models X5355 and E5345 will have a 1,333 MHz front-side bus while the Xeon DP E5320 and E5310 have a slightly slower 1,066 MHz front-side bus. All Clovertown Xeon processors will have 8MB of L2 cache. Pricing for Intel Clovertown Xeon DP processors will be $1172, $851, $690 and $455 for models X5355, E5345, E5320 and E5310 in 1,000-unit lots respectively. Availability is expected later this quarter.

Intel Clovertown Xeon
Processor
Number
Core
Frequency
Bus
Frequency
L2
Cache
Price
X5355 2.66GHz 1333MHz 8MB $1172
E5345 2.33GHz 1333MHz 8MB $851
E5320 1.86GHz 1066MHz 8MB $690
E5310 1.60GHz 1066MHz 8MB $455

Lastly on the Intel Xeon roadmap is one new Tulsa Xeon MP processor. The new dual-core Xeon MP 7150N will be clocked at 3.5 GHz with a 667 MHz front-side bus. This particular model will have 2MB of L2 cache and 16MB of L3 cache. Pricing for the new Xeon MP 7150N will be $2,622 in 1,000 unit lots. Availability is expected in Q1’07.

Intel Tulsa Xeon
Processor
Number
Core
Frequency
Bus
Frequency
L2
Cache
L3
Cache
Price
7150N 3.50GHz 667MHz 2MB 16MB $2,622


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Question?
By webdawg77 on 9/21/2006 10:54:16 AM , Rating: 2
Why would you buy the X3220 for $851 when you could get the E5345 for the same price? Is the X3220 for the 775 socket while the E5345 is for the 771 socket?

I would much rather sacrifice a few hundred MHz in processor clock speed for a bump in the FSB speed. A 26% increase is FSB is worth more than a 3% increase in processor clock speed.




RE: Question?
By George Powell on 9/21/2006 11:05:18 AM , Rating: 2
Yup different sockets.


RE: Question?
By craftyguy on 9/21/2006 11:11:49 AM , Rating: 2
webdawg77,
Why? Because if you deside to go with the E5345 (socket 771), you will need to look at purchasing FB-DIMMs and board that supports the new Woodcrest/Clovertown Xeons. The board and FB-DIMMs alone can = more than the cost of most complete desktop systems.


RE: Question?
By webdawg77 on 9/21/2006 11:18:25 AM , Rating: 2
True, didn't think about factoring in the RAM costs. Assuming the socket would be different should have reminded me about the RAM. Either way, 4 cores are going to need all the bandwidth they can get. I think most people who are looking into getting a 4 core CPU would consider the E5000 series before the X3000 series unless money is a major concern.


RE: Question?
By hstewarth on 9/21/2006 1:37:40 PM , Rating: 2
Ram is not only thing here - actually a minimal concern in this question.

Main difference here is Clovertowns are dual processor systems - which means 2 cpus can be used. Also the motherboard are much more expensive and required bigger cases.


Also ...
By webdawg77 on 9/21/2006 10:56:53 AM , Rating: 2
What happened to the 2.66 GHz and 1.86 GHz variants of the Kentsfield? According to the http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3381 there were two more variants.




RE: Also ...
By Phynaz on 9/21/2006 11:20:08 AM , Rating: 2
These are quads, not duals.


RE: Also ...
By webdawg77 on 9/21/2006 11:22:28 AM , Rating: 2
True, but I am linking to the article that is talked about in the very first sentence of this article ... "Intel is planning to release quad-core Kentsfield based Xeon 3000 seriesprocessors." I guess the article link is incorrect.


RE: Also ...
By Anh Huynh on 9/21/2006 2:20:57 PM , Rating: 2
The Kentsfield based Xeons are still part of the 3000 series, they'll be designated X3000. Plain ole Xeon 3000 series are Conroe based.


Confused?
By lemonadesoda on 9/22/2006 4:26:17 AM , Rating: 2
This article, and the comments so far, demonstrate how confusing the Intel line-up has become! And this is at Dailytech! (Frequented by educated technonerds).

Poor Joe Consumer.





RE: Confused?
By Clauzii on 9/22/2006 4:47:02 AM , Rating: 2
I was thinking just the same when I got to your post ;)


RE: Confused?
By JeffDM on 9/24/2006 7:29:51 AM , Rating: 2
Most consumers won't have to worry about the Xeon line. Typically, the Mac Pro is the only Xeon-based computer that any consumer might be exposed to, and that's only at the few places Apples are sold.

The sticker shock will be enough to keep consumers away from the first generation of quad core chips.


RE: Confused?
By Rev StIckman on 9/26/2006 11:06:03 AM , Rating: 2
I am new to this forum, and definitely a "dummie" when it comes to understanding chips, sockets, etc. However, I have been waiting for the right time to buy a MacBook Pro, and am wondering if any of the quad-core technology should be ready soon for laptops. Apple seemed to be getting pretty aggressive, and I anticipated that they would release MBP's with the Core 2 Duos along with other manufacturers. Any insights?


intel pretty much copies AMD with this move
By hardwareking on 9/21/2006 12:05:05 PM , Rating: 2
Earlier AMD had opterons made for socket 939,i.e their desktop platform.Those were made with servers in mind so it OCed better too.(and they sold a lot)
So intel are doing the same thing right now.They are releasing xeons for desktop.(like AMD released opterons for desktops)
I'm lookin forward to it.




RE: intel pretty much copies AMD with this move
By laylaxx on 9/21/2006 12:29:10 PM , Rating: 2
The article says "Pricing for the new Xeon MP 7150N will be $2,622 in 1,000 unit lots."

However, it's displayed as $851 in the chart below for product price, Why?


By Tyler 86 on 9/21/2006 6:10:49 PM , Rating: 2
Intel Tulsa Xeon Processor (aka Xeon MP 7150N)
3.50GHz 667MHz 2MB 16MB $2,622

... ?


By hstewarth on 9/21/2006 4:15:42 PM , Rating: 1
Actually in some way its opposite, they are reelease a desktop Core 2 based product in server form.

The Woodcrest 51xx and Clovertown 53xx are NOT available for the desktop platforms at all.


So how much is the 7150N?
By Assimilator87 on 9/21/2006 12:30:39 PM , Rating: 2
"Pricing for the new Xeon MP 7150N will be $2,622 in 1,000 unit lots. Availability is expected in Q1’07."

But in the chart below the quote, the 7150N is priced at $851, so which is it?




RE: So how much is the 7150N?
By Assimilator87 on 9/21/2006 12:31:27 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry 'bout double post, but layla in a different thread beat me to this question by 29 seconds >=(


RE: So how much is the 7150N?
By JeffDM on 9/22/2006 12:44:40 PM , Rating: 2
If it's the Tulsa, I would say the $2622 price is probably correct. Top end Xeon MP series chips are generally very,very expensive, especially when they have more cache than the desktop version of the same core. Even the lower clocked Xeon MPs are very expensive, I don't think they've ever been offered for less than $1k US.


So ... how many socket variations?
By VooDooAddict on 9/21/2006 10:52:43 AM , Rating: 2
There will both be Core 2 Duo and Quad Core Xeon's on Socket 775?

There will also be Socket 771 Quad Core Xeons?




RE: So ... how many socket variations?
By hstewarth on 9/21/2006 4:11:05 PM , Rating: 1
I bekieve besides allowing for dual cpus, 771 Quad core Xeons have some features that dual Core Xeons don't have.

One thing that comes to mind, IO Acceration.


By themelon on 9/21/2006 7:00:32 PM , Rating: 2
And the ability to have a second socket. That is the bigest thing.


Kentsfield Xeon
By cnimativ on 9/21/2006 11:01:52 AM , Rating: 1
Kentsfield Xeon uses a different socket. Just like how Conroe and Woodcrest are different socket.




RE: Kentsfield Xeon
By craftyguy on 9/21/2006 11:14:26 AM , Rating: 2
Not so. The Kentsfield will use socket 775. It is re-labeled a 'Xeon' in this case (and at these speeds) because it is geared towards the Uni-Processor server market (like how people are using Conroe's in blades). There will also be a Core2 Quadro for desktop that is Kentsfield but at 2.66Ghz.


RE: Kentsfield Xeon
By JeffDM on 9/22/2006 12:41:39 PM , Rating: 2
The Xeon versions are re-binned too, they generally have a higher temperature tolerance while consuming less power than the non-Xeon version of the same chip. That makes it more useful for packing into small form factors, such as racks and blades.


2.33Ghz 5340 or 2.66Ghz 5150
By hstewarth on 9/21/2006 1:39:24 PM , Rating: 2
I am curious which would better - 2.33Ghz 5340 or 2.66Ghz 5150? I am dealing with Lightwave and such so I would do better with 8 total cores. But likely the quad would required a lot more watts.




RE: 2.33Ghz 5340 or 2.66Ghz 5150
By mino on 9/21/2006 3:59:18 PM , Rating: 2
Provided your application can use them, 5340 would leave 5150 in the dust.


Already reviewed?
By cenobite9 on 9/21/2006 1:53:37 PM , Rating: 2
Didn't THG do some testing on some pre-production versions of these quad-core chips?




RE: Already reviewed?
By hstewarth on 9/21/2006 3:19:52 PM , Rating: 2
THG reviewed the desktop version of chip, which the x3xxx series is basically the same thing.

the 5xxx level of chip is on the 771 socket and designed to work in a dual processor configuration. In case of this announce would a llow for 8 total cores - which is twice the number of core that the desktop chips on THG reference.


put the in a mac pro quick
By Esquire on 9/22/2006 12:50:52 PM , Rating: 2
8) want a quad dually




RE: put the in a mac pro quick
By Hare on 9/23/2006 8:28:31 AM , Rating: 2
Anandtech already did that :) Worked perfectly without any tweaks.


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