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Get it while you can

Microsoft released Vista Build 5536 to beta testers last week, but regular end-users can take their chances with the latest build as well. After the tremendous response generated by the initial availability of Vista Beta 2 to the public, Microsoft has decided to limit this pre-RC1 build of Vista to the first 100,000 downloads.

DailyTech just reported today that Microsoft has set a January 30 launch date for Windows Vista. Prices for consumers will range from $199/$99.95 for Vista Home Basic to $399/$259 for Vista Ultimate (full/upgrade).

Response to the latest build has been quite favorable. You can check out feedback on the latest build from WinSuperSite, and MSTechToday.

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Downloading it now...
By retrospooty on 8/29/2006 10:55:49 AM , Rating: 2
Dang... 2.58 gigs will take all morning to get.

RE: Downloading it now...
By alexsch8 on 8/29/2006 1:11:26 PM , Rating: 1
Took me 30 minutes with Comcast cable at 8Mbps.

RE: Downloading it now...
By GreenEnvt on 8/29/2006 1:22:55 PM , Rating: 3
2.5 gigs, at 10megabit/s, assuming 0% overhead, would take 33 minutes, so either you've got more bandwidth then you think, or it took longer then 30 mins :)

RE: Downloading it now...
By rushfan2006 on 8/29/06, Rating: 0
RE: Downloading it now...
By sadffffff on 8/29/2006 3:28:33 PM , Rating: 2
more like its sad to see someone lie about the time it takes them to download something/the connection they have.

"oh yeah well i download it in 2 minutes! my e-peene is HUUUUGE"

RE: Downloading it now...
By PrimarchLion on 8/29/2006 3:48:00 PM , Rating: 2
It took me an hour and a half =(

RE: Downloading it now...
By Xavian on 8/29/2006 3:49:05 PM , Rating: 1
Completely agree.

btw, took me 40 mins to download on my 5Mbit connection...........

j/k :P

RE: Downloading it now...
By afkrotch on 8/29/2006 6:59:45 PM , Rating: 2
It's a cable connection. Guess what? The bandwith can fluctuate on it.

I'm on a 3 Mb connection and it jumps around from 1.5 Mb to 5 Mb, depending what time of day. From early morn to about noon is when I get my best speeds. Mainly cause everyone seems to start all their pr0n dl's at night.

RE: Downloading it now...
By heffeque on 8/29/2006 4:06:03 PM , Rating: 2
It's interesting to see that internet speeds in Spain are faster than in the US. There's 20 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up with ADSL2+ in Spain's main cities for 20 euros (25.5 dollars) and Comcast gives 8 Mbps down / 768 Kbps up for alsmot 60 dollars while DSL there only gives 3 Mbps. That's pretty sad.

RE: Downloading it now...
By Googer on 8/29/2006 6:52:59 PM , Rating: 2
CD Key?
By Nick5324 on 8/29/2006 11:01:54 AM , Rating: 3
Is there no CD Key like there was with Beta 2?

I started the download, it's going at about 515KB/s, but I didn't see anything about getting a key.

RE: CD Key?
By mezrah on 8/29/2006 11:09:16 AM , Rating: 3
From the email I received:

"Installing this build requires a valid Product ID. Please use the same Product ID that was provided to you when you signed up for the Beta 2 CPP. For your reference, here is that Product ID: "

RE: CD Key?
By Nick5324 on 8/29/2006 11:13:19 AM , Rating: 2
I recieved no such email. I do have a Beta 2 Product ID to use, thanks for the info.

RE: CD Key?
By mezrah on 8/29/2006 11:15:13 AM , Rating: 1
My pleasure

RE: CD Key?
By nordicpc on 8/29/2006 11:13:54 AM , Rating: 2
I've read the Beta 2 key should work aswell. I'll find out tonight!

RE: CD Key?
By Canizorro on 8/29/2006 1:40:56 PM , Rating: 2

I was wondering how you recieved that e-mail that referenced your product key? I have lost mine from the beta 2 install and are trying to retreive it. Any help in this matter is appreciated.

RE: CD Key?
By Sivar on 8/29/2006 2:03:44 PM , Rating: 2
Why would Microsoft allow 100,000 downloads by people who are unlikely to have keys for that download?
I got the impression that this program was created in response to the large number of downloads before, but if the previous testers signed up in some fashion to get a key sent to them, I would hope that the build that I am downloading now either comes with a key, or has no such requirement.
If 90,000 of the people who spend the time on this download end up being unable to install it, I suspect they will be rather grumpy.

RE: CD Key?
By bwmccann on 8/29/2006 4:03:23 PM , Rating: 2
This email originally went out to the people that belonged the Windows Influencers distribution. Somebody included in that distro sent the link out to the masses but didn't realize that the email also contained the CD KEY for this.

By rushfan2006 on 8/29/2006 2:02:22 PM , Rating: 2
Can someone please report back on how this build performs with their games particular if you play oblivion, wow, fear, bf2, etc.

I am well interested as a gamer -- to see hints of how Vista will perform for my use.

I can't dl it myself, don't have the time and wasn't a beta tester so I don't have a product key.

By ZeeStorm on 8/29/2006 2:13:20 PM , Rating: 3
I'm in the process of downloading it, and am very precautious about putting this on my gaming pc. I don't use the PC for anything but games, no IE, no FF, nothing. Everything gets sent to it over the network. But I'm very curious on how it'll perform on the X2 4400+, 6900GT. However I only have 1GB Corsair XMS RAM, don't they suggest 2GB?

P.S. I don't have a product key either, so it might be a while before I can test i.t

By Doh! on 8/29/2006 2:18:31 PM , Rating: 2
You don't need a product key to test it. The installation will be fine without the product key but you won't be able to activate it. This means you'll have 14 days of testing.

By stash on 8/29/2006 3:11:27 PM , Rating: 2
You can't install without a key.

By johnsonx on 8/29/2006 4:23:52 PM , Rating: 2
unless MS changed something on this particular build (i doubt it), you have to have a key code to even install it. I'm not aware of any Microsoft product that will install without a key.

Please have your facts before you speak.


By throughhyperspace on 8/29/2006 6:18:10 PM , Rating: 1
Actually you can install this build without a product ID.. I don't know if that was the case for Beta 1(I did not download/install Beta 1, so I don't have an ID, thus why I had to do it without one) Apparently this and the final release have all the versions on one DVD as it is the product ID that tells it which version to install. If you don't enter and ID it asks you to pick which version to install. Of course I picked ultimate, but by the warnings it gives, if/when I get a ID from Microsoft(and it is not ultimate) then I will have to reinstall from scratch before it will activate. How long until I have to activate, I don't know, but 14 days seems reasonable.. Well accurate seems more appropriate, as it would be reasonable to let us have the license until June without any hassel considering we are the ones finding all the bugs on a much larger scale then even Microsoft's astronomical R&D budget can handle.
So lets try doing the install before we slam someone else's facts, because he was right.. Doh!

By Doh! on 8/30/2006 1:17:44 AM , Rating: 2
Obviously you didn't install this build & talking w/o any decent amount of knowledge.

Try installing it w/o the key. If you can't, you're an idiot. Next time, get your facts straight before you speak.

By johnsonx on 8/30/2006 2:56:55 PM , Rating: 2
ok, while I have not tried it myself, I will admit, based on the many comments about it, that you probably can install without a key. This is a new one on me.

Major DOH! back at me. I did not have my facts before I spoke.

(though I did allow for the possibility that MS had changed something this time around)

Only another 29 hours to go
By plinden on 8/29/2006 12:08:03 PM , Rating: 2
At 25kB/s download, I'll have this by noon tomorrow.

I guess I shouldn't have gone for SBC DSL ...

RE: Only another 29 hours to go
By augiem on 8/29/2006 12:36:09 PM , Rating: 2
1 hr, 19 mins start to finish. :)

Cept, I don't have a beta CD key like those up top were talking about...

RE: Only another 29 hours to go
By ZeeStorm on 8/29/2006 2:06:19 PM , Rating: 2
Nor do I, I signed up a long time ago, but I never got any CD-Key. 920kb/s ftw -- 47 minutes remaining.

Is there a place where I can *legally* get a cd-key for this?

Also, do these expire on the 1st of January, does anybody know?

RE: Only another 29 hours to go
By Jeff7181 on 8/29/2006 12:37:14 PM , Rating: 2
Hooray for Comcast 6 Mbit downstream. Took about 2 hours.

RE: Only another 29 hours to go
By Bull Dog on 8/29/2006 12:43:02 PM , Rating: 2
I have 33 minutes left. DLing at 414 KB/Sec

RE: Only another 29 hours to go
By kaborka on 8/29/2006 12:48:39 PM , Rating: 2
I'm getting 300KB/sec with my SBC DSL Pro in LA. Check your setup: . Make them fix it if you're not getting what you paid for.

By coreanocoreano on 8/29/2006 3:58:18 PM , Rating: 2
After I use the Vista without product key that means that I only have 14 days with Vista... Ok.. After that I still have my Windows XP Profetional?

By Sivar on 8/29/2006 4:15:33 PM , Rating: 2
Probably not. I have not done an upgrade as I am installing within a virtual machine (or attempting to -- we'll see if it actually works), but I doubt there is a roll-back option to Windows XP.
Either way, it would likely be best to install on a different partition or a second (unimportant) computer, should those options be available to you.

By coreanocoreano on 8/29/2006 4:17:00 PM , Rating: 1
Where I could fine a Product Key number.

By eea on 8/29/2006 5:12:48 PM , Rating: 2
I received a product key in the email from microsoft!
But this key does not work. Has anybody had a similar
problem? Tried to reply back to MS for help but no ones
at home there. Can't sent any email to them!

By wrack on 8/29/2006 6:07:25 PM , Rating: 2
Took me 50 minutes to download at 8000 Kpbs

By ghost101 on 9/2/2006 11:20:46 PM , Rating: 2
When i initially downloaded vista beta 2, i applied twice and got 2 keys that work on 10 computers each apparenty.

However, only one of my keys worked for Pre-RC1. So im guessing that some keys dont work?

download speed
By HammerFan on 8/29/2006 7:04:56 PM , Rating: 2
I am downloading at 650k and climbing right now.

RE: download speed
By SuperSix on 8/29/2006 8:06:51 PM , Rating: 2
I grabbed it first thing this morning - 760k/sec. :)

RE: download speed
By obstreperous on 8/29/2006 9:22:32 PM , Rating: 2
I'm 8 kilometres from the nearest dslam, so can't get dsl, only isdn at 128k which would mean a maximum of around 15k sec, so it would probably be January by the time I got it. Oh well at least the airs clean out here.:)

Download complete...burning ISO now.....
By Souka on 8/29/2006 11:29:29 AM , Rating: 2
Hope this works as my July download was the time I realized it, I couldn't download it anymore.

RE: Download complete...burning ISO now.....
By Bull Dog on 8/29/2006 11:32:33 AM , Rating: 1
Well if this new download of your is corrupt then there is bitTorrent.

By Souka on 8/29/2006 6:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
ISO works great.

previous ISO I downloaded in July was incomplete...d:\windows\install.wim was unreadable.

downloading errors
By pyrosity on 8/29/2006 2:20:56 PM , Rating: 2
So for some reason or another, I can't get this download going. It doesn't surprise me, as I'm on a campus network that can be pretty restrictive on web access/P2P software. One would assume that a direct download would work, though...but I can't get anything to work. FlashGet, Akamai, direct download...using both IE and Firefox...I really don't know what's up. The direct download yields me a 1 Kb file. Not my idea of a Vista Beta.

RE: downloading errors
By brystmar on 8/29/2006 2:48:37 PM , Rating: 3
that 1kb file is MS' response to all the "OMG BLOATWARE" critics :)

Valid Product ID?
By S3anister on 8/30/2006 4:58:56 AM , Rating: 2
I read that anyone can download this, but only beta testers can get a vaild product ID to install the OS...

would anyone know how I could get a vaild product ID?

RE: Valid Product ID?
By Doh! on 8/30/2006 5:35:49 AM , Rating: 3
I'll say it again. Despite what you've heard, this build DOES NOT require a cd-key for installation.

The key is required only for the activation.

How do I know this? Because that's exactly what I did. I installed it without the cd-key (it asks for the key but allows you to finish the installation without the key. just mentions that the key is required for the activation).

Without the cd-key, you'll have 14 days of playing around with vista.

Please, if you have not attempted to install this build without a cd-key, don't tell me I'm wrong or don't say the installation requires a key. There are people that have tested previous betas which required a valid cd-key, and just assume that this build requires it also. Well....wrong.

By Scrogneugneu on 8/29/2006 10:09:15 PM , Rating: 1
Did I just read 199$ for the cheapest Full version of Vista? Isn't that higher than WinXP?

By masteraleph on 8/29/2006 11:10:57 PM , Rating: 2
XP Home retails for $200, XP Pro retails for $300. However, you'll never actually buy them for that, because you buy OEM/upgrade/whatever that's significantly cheaper.

Good example- preorder on and (not the cheapest place to buy XP) are $259 for the upgrade version of Ultimate..

Oh well
By R Nilla on 8/29/2006 10:58:13 AM , Rating: 2
I would be interested to try this out on my "Vista-ready" laptop, too bad I'm at work...

By thereaderrabbit on 8/29/2006 11:37:46 AM , Rating: 2
Any word on a 64-bit flavor of this Vista build?

Am using it already!
By gersson on 8/29/2006 1:40:40 PM , Rating: 2
Just downloaded this baby and I'm happy to say: NO MORE BSODs! Works well with Xpress 3200 Chipset & Crossfire -- Finally.

Very nice work, MS. Works like a charm :-)

By coreanocoreano on 8/29/2006 3:56:47 PM , Rating: 2
Some place I read is the Product Key Number on the back of my notebook. But i put it on and nothing happends.. Where I should find a Key #???

X64 Version?
By Nightmare225 on 8/29/2006 7:04:14 PM , Rating: 2
Where's the X64 version, eh?

bleh 32bit only it seems
By Myrandex on 8/29/2006 9:30:56 PM , Rating: 2
I have vista64 beta 2 downloaded, and I would have redownloaded the new one if it was 64bit, but it seems to be the 32 bit only unless I need a different link.

By tony2153 on 8/30/2006 11:47:37 AM , Rating: 2
Who has download Windows Vista beta 2 was recive a key.That key works for this relase(5536)

Vista key
By tony2153 on 8/30/2006 11:50:57 AM , Rating: 2
I don't know if he works!

so far so good
By johnsonx on 8/30/2006 4:02:19 PM , Rating: 2
Installed on my Dell i6000. No aero-glass, since I've only got GMA900 gfx.

But, it seems to work quite well, certainly 'feels' better and more complete than Beta 2 did. I only booted Beta 2 twice before I pulled out the hard drive and stuck my WinXP/SUSE 10 drive back in. Beta 2 was 'pretty' but I just didn't feel like trying to use it for anything.

I got my iFolder 2.16 client to install using the compatibility wizard. Much to my surprise it works even though it uses some system level drivers (which most assuredly haven't been updated for Vista - Novell takes a 'we see nothing' approach to any new Windows Desktop OS until it's been out for 6 months). As iFolder is my one must-have app, now I can actually try using Vista on a daily basis.

Much better ...
By JY on 8/29/2006 12:49:19 PM , Rating: 1
Just finished installing it on my Dell 9100 laptop. Aero is now running smoothly on my ATI mobile 9800 GPU in 1920x120O (widescreen problem of build 5472 is terminated!). Still hate the Explorer look of the file explorer. Where are the customisable toolbars we administrators love to tweak!! You know, those things we actually use! What in the name of god are we supposed to do with a URL box in a file explorer? Wake up mister Microsoft, wake up and smell the ashes...

By Crescent13 on 8/29/06, Rating: 0
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