Apple Fires Retail Employees for Downloading Leopard
Anh Tuan Huynh
August 22, 2006 7:34 PM
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Pirate our software, lose your job
reports Apple retail store employees have been axed for illegally acquiring developer builds of Apple’s unreleased Mac OS X
Mac OS X
was given out to developers at Apple’s WWDC
event earlier this month and leaked out to the public.
previously reported on leaked screen shots of Mac OS X Leopard earlier today too
. The Apple retail store employers obtained a leaked copy and were overhead discussing the matter with other employees. The discussion was overheard and Apple corporate investigated the matter after word had reached Apple’s office in Cupertino, CA.
The employees were immediately fired after admitting to obtaining the illegal software. Obtaining illegal copies of Apple software is a clear violation of Apple’s terms of service, or TOS, for retail store employees. Furthermore, the Apple employees had also signed a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) about upcoming software, which resulted in a second infraction.
The dismissed employees, when questioned, responded with "All of us know that we violated our NDA and ethics policy. Therefore, because we had the character to tell the truth and to face the consequences of our actions, we were terminated," said one of the fired employees, who spoke with
on condition of anonymity. "My only question is, if we all lied and denied it would we still be working at Apple today? Even more so, is that the kind of person that Apple wants working for them?"
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RE: Flawed logic
8/23/2006 1:53:43 AM
Are you serious? lol.
While youre looking through the dictionary trying to validate piracy, look up "property"
1. Something owned; a possession.
2. A piece of real estate: has a swimming pool on the property.
3. Something tangible or intangible to which its owner has legal title: properties such as copyrights and trademarks.
4. Possessions considered as a group.
So, because its 0's and 1's, its not property, therefore cannot be stolen?
Re-read your dictionary, then get back with us.
RE: Flawed logic
8/23/2006 3:34:37 AM
Unless the physical disk upon which the 1's and 0's reside is stolen, no. Copy is never stealing. It is an entirely separate term which would be considered "Intellectual property infringement."
My argument is that any IP infringment which is non-commercial in nature and does not directly threaten sales or cause harm to the IP owner is not ethically wrong.
Downloading an OS which is currently unavailable for sale for trial purposes is hunky dory in my book. They couldn't have bought the product, so it didn't effect sales, and having sales reps who are knowledgeable about the upcoming product could only AID Apple.
RE: Flawed logic
8/23/2006 9:50:48 AM
MachFive, you have to be a troll....please for the sake of the future of the human race just be a forum troll and not seriously, honestly believe in what you posted as the truth. I can not accept that one could be so friggin naive and so full of shit all at once.....there has to be hope....please tell me there is hope.....;)
What they did was stealing. And btw, last time I checked its the court system and the law that matters what the definition of stealing is or is not -- a judge doesn't go "oh look online someone on wiki said this isn't stealing....case dismissed!" or "Oh wait, I can't decide this case -- someone quick get me a Collegiate Dictionary stat! We'll find out once and for all how to interpret this case as stealing or not!!"......
No by all legal definitions and more importantly, according to the law -- this act was and is in fact, STEALING.
The most simple romper room definition for ignorant folks as yourself would be "taking anything without authorization/permission that you do not rightfully own".
Your whole argument is meaningless though, as I *DARE* you to do an experiment.....do just what these emeployees did and then before the judge tell him/her what you posted here about it. ;)
(...and remember don't drop the soap)
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