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USB Type-C has the ability to charge laptop as well

The USB 3.0 Promoter Group is looking to make the lives of mobile users a little bit easier with the finalization of the USB Type-C specifications. USB Type-C cables and connectors are aimed primarily for use in smartphones, but the organization behind the standards says that they are also “robust enough for laptops and tablets.”
The big takeaway from this announcement is that the connectors on the cable and matching receptacle allow the user to insert the cable without worrying about its orientation. This is similar in concept to Apple’s Lightning connector, but Lightning [for now] is limited to USB 2.0 speeds.
USB Type-C supports SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps (USB 3.1) and can also deliver up to 100W of power as well. That latter spec will allow notebooks to be charged over USB, but it remains to be seen how many manufacturers will take advantage of this feature.

“USB has the luxury of consumer familiarity and trust, and as we adapt the technology for the future we are committed to ensuring the USB brand promise continues with this new USB Type-C connector and cable,” said Jeff Ravencraft, USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) President and COO.
Now that the USB Type-C spec has been finalized, the USB-IF is now tasked with managing the spec as well as handling certification and compliance. 

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RE: Retention
By jeepga on 8/13/2014 11:58:56 AM , Rating: 4
I don't purchase the off-brand cables. I consistently have the problem. There is a design flaw.

RE: Retention
By retrospooty on 8/13/2014 1:12:07 PM , Rating: 2
I use any cheap cable I can find and never have issues with it... Clearly, micro USB isn't super strong, but maybe there is a usage issue you are having? It's not terribly strong, so you need to not put too much pressure on it.

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By Solandri on 8/13/2014 1:44:33 PM , Rating: 2
I don't purchase the off-brand cables. I consistently have the problem. There is a design flaw.

I don't purchase any mini/micro-USB cables. I just use and reuse the ones which shipped with the devices I've bought.

I've never had the problem. That would suggest the problem is something about how you're using them, and not with the design.

And no I don't baby them. The micro-USB charger in my car plugs into the bottom of my phone, and actually supports the weight of the phone when I prop it up to use it as a GPS. The most common failure mode I've experienced is the wire fraying from excessive bending, especially where the cord meets the plug and can be pulled at 90 degrees.

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By flyingpants1 on 8/13/2014 7:36:49 PM , Rating: 2
I've never had the problem. That would suggest the problem is something about how you're using them, and not with the design.

It suggests the exact opposite of this.

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By inighthawki on 8/14/2014 1:40:13 AM , Rating: 2
How do you figure?

RE: Retention
By HomerTNachoCheese on 8/14/14, Rating: 0
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By inighthawki on 8/14/2014 11:18:43 AM , Rating: 3
I'm confused, are you agreeing with me or trying to provide a counter example, because you're proving my point...

RE: Retention
By flyingpants1 on 8/17/2014 3:13:18 AM , Rating: 3
In the case of every single product with any defect whatsoever, the defect is always somehow denied by the people that didn't experience it.

"It works fine on my end, it must be your fault" AKA "You're holding it wrong" AKA just blathering nonsense because you don't want to address the issue.

Nobody is swinging their phones over their heads by the USB cable like a lasso. These cables have extremely thin metal wires inside - they are built to break. What's worse, they are subject to a ridiculous amount of movement and stress, compared to say, a DVI cable. We plug and unplug them every single day. We move them around, put them in pockets and bags, or use our devices while charging. They can only handle so much stress before they eventually give.

Laptop charger cables break too, for these same reasons. It's why they're designed with rubber things around where the cable meets the connector or power brick, in order to mitigate the issue.

But if it were up to people like you, laptop chargers wouldn't have those rubber things. We'd all just have to be careful all the time, and deal with occasional failure. And when they do eventually break, it's because we're "plugging it wrong".

The solution is better cables, with thicker wiring and a special rubberized exterior that prevents bending at an extreme angle, along with reinforcement at the pressure point where the connector meets the cable. And a rock-solid connector.

RE: Retention
By inighthawki on 8/17/2014 8:56:45 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not trying to deny there are defects, and I'm certainly not trying to say "I have experienced any, therefore I'm right. The problem is that the people in this very comments section are talking about how they've gone through multiple cables. When individual testimonies tend to be "all my cables always break" or "none of my cables ever break," it tends to suggest that it is a user flaw, not a design flaw. Simple statistics suggest it is extremely unlikely for singled out individuals to receive all the defective products.

RE: Retention
By verteron on 8/16/2014 10:49:05 PM , Rating: 1
Ambiguous. What does "It" refer to?

Pronouns can only immediately follow a proper noun. eg. "I have a red car, it is fast."

You cannot say, "I drove a red car to the store, it is fast." Although, logically people assume in this instance that "fast" refers to the red car, the rules of grammar dictate that it refers to the store, which makes no sense. What if it did?

I drove a red car to the race, it is fast." Did I race the car? Did the race have fast cars? Or was my car fast, but I only drove it to the race and the race has fast cars?

Proofreading should clue you in on the potential issues of comprehension by the reader. In this case I'd need to restructure my sentence. "I drove my fast, red car to the race."

RE: Retention
By inighthawki on 8/14/2014 1:42:29 AM , Rating: 2
This. I also have never needed to purchase a single new micro USB cable. I have like two or three that get constant use, which I've used for years now. None of them have ever stopped working.

I too will suggest that if you guys are having issues with your cables, you might want to double check what the heck you're doing to them to damage them so much. There's a strong chance it is not a flaw in the cable design.

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By PitViper007 on 8/15/2014 3:49:11 PM , Rating: 2
The only micro USB cable I've ever had issues with was the one that came with my Nook Color. There was most definitely a design flaw in it, as there were countless complaints about it. The plastic it was made from, that surrounded the actual connector wiring was too brittle and would crack and break off.

Any other micro USB cable was perfectly fine, and I still use some of the first ones that I ever got.

RE: Retention
By FredExII on 8/15/2014 11:44:04 PM , Rating: 2
I feel there is a design problem. I had a phone replaced due to the problem on the phone connector. Being a tech dude by trade for decades I was interested and I was able to talk to techs at a repair center and they said they get a lot of micro USB failures. Personally the only USB connectors I have had issues with are Micro USB.

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