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A new Samsung flagship is reportedly in the works

When the rumors about the Samsung Galaxy S5 first started raining down upon us, we were pelted with hopes of a metal body and a gorgeous QHD display. When the smartphone was officially announced, we were greeted with what was more evolution than revolution — that meant a slight bump in screen size to 5.1 inches, the same 1080p resolution, and a body that was still constructed primarily of plastic.

 
We’re now getting a few more glimpses of the next Samsung “flagship” with specs matching what people were first expecting with the Galaxy S5. The so-called Galaxy F will reportedly be announced in September according to serial leaker @evleaks.

 
Reports suggest that the Galaxy F will come equipped with a QHD (2560x1440) display like the LG G3, and will actually sport a full metal back (unlike the faux-metallic G3). There are also reports that a Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 processor will be onboard to provide not only faster processing speeds to fuel the QHD display, but also a fast onboard modem courtesy of the 225Mbps LTE-A Qualcomm MDM9635.

Source: Evleaks



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So it has come to this now?
By quiksilvr on 6/16/2014 9:37:10 AM , Rating: 2
Remember when Motorola launched the DROID and then less than 6 months later the DROID MAXX came out, which had an infinitely better battery life?

Have we really reached the point where a flagship is going to come out every six months?




RE: So it has come to this now?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/16/2014 9:46:18 AM , Rating: 5
Unless you're one of those people that must have the latest and greatest of everything, should it really matter how often new flagships get announced?

My current smartphone is nearly 2 years old and gets the job done.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By FITCamaro on 6/16/2014 9:51:48 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. I think the vast majority of users needs for a smartphone has been met for at least 2 years. The only reason for new phones is better battery life. More speed really isn't necessary for 95% of people out there.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By tng on 6/16/2014 9:58:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
More speed really isn't necessary for 95% of people out there.
Really don't need the phone to be all that powerful, it is the network that I wish were faster. No new processor is going to help that.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/16/14, Rating: -1
RE: So it has come to this now?
By djc208 on 6/16/2014 11:32:39 AM , Rating: 3
I most people aren't getting the speeds they're supposed to be getting with their current modems. The weakness isn't usually the phone end, it's the provider end, this modem is like 802.11ac, pointless if the router you are connected to is only 802.11n (or worse).

And the network is going to change far slower than your phone.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Spuke on 6/16/2014 11:40:25 AM , Rating: 2
If they made a Google Play edition of the F, I'd pick one up. Oh that's right I'm on Verizon.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Monkey's Uncle on 6/16/2014 12:49:23 PM , Rating: 2
I actually have an 802.11ac 1900 wireless router in my house. My network doesn't change all that slowly ;)


RE: So it has come to this now?
By ritualm on 6/16/2014 2:04:25 PM , Rating: 2
The WiFi-AC specification requires network adapters to be a minimum of two-stream (2x2:2), instead of the single-stream that permeated over 95% of consumer electronics during the WiFi-N era. Nope, the OEMs are still using single-stream for AC.

Net result: those WiFi connections continue to suck.


By Monkey's Uncle on 6/17/2014 9:55:53 AM , Rating: 2
Good point. However when dual band/dual stream adapters become more mainstream, this will change.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/16/2014 3:06:03 PM , Rating: 1
That's just the way wireless works. Nobody can guarantee throughput, too many factors can inhibit a good connection that's out of the providers control. I know people who bi*ch when they're in an elevator and can't get 4G or a call gets dropped, I mean come on!

And yeah I was being cute by referencing this modem change, but what exactly does he want? This is a massive country and frankly I'm proud that we have major carriers competing for your business on such a large scale.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By ritualm on 6/16/2014 3:10:46 PM , Rating: 2
Only South Korea has LTE-Advanced right now. By the time USA gets onboard, the Asian country is already knee-deep into 5G.

No, that is not a feature.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/16/2014 3:26:55 PM , Rating: 1
What if he's posting from South Korea? Huh, smart guy :)

Of course it's a feature. People are going to be stuck with this phone for 2+ years, carriers are ALREADY rolling out LTE Advanced!

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/03/06/att-lte-advan...

OOOOPS!!!!!!


RE: So it has come to this now?
By tng on 6/16/2014 12:20:29 PM , Rating: 2
Well to be fair, only 90% of my issues come from the network. Sometimes it is lighting fast, other times it is just slow.

Also I do note that sometimes the network is fine, but the server my phone is talking to is slow. Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the two. There is no phone that can account for that.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By hughlle on 6/16/2014 11:48:18 AM , Rating: 2
My only issue might be that the more phones a company is offering, then this could effect the level of support and updates available. Not sure what samsung are like with supporting the older models, but there are certainly other comp[anies who had more products than they seemingly had manpower in the support department and just gave up on them in favour of the latest offerings.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By zephyrprime on 6/17/2014 10:47:05 AM , Rating: 2
You should get a new phone dude. I was using a nexus galaxy which was about 2 years old and then moved to a nexus 5 and it was a huge improvement.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By SeaLurk on 6/16/2014 10:05:01 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Have we really reached the point where a flagship is going to come out every six months?

Sony officially announced that their flagship Xperia Z will get refreshed every six months.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By retrospooty on 6/16/2014 10:51:39 AM , Rating: 3
This is a good thing. I cant understand anyone that thinks faster better stuff at a faster release rate is a bad thing.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By inighthawki on 6/16/2014 11:12:08 AM , Rating: 1
It's just a lame attempt for people who buy them to try and pretend like they're important for a longer period of time by living in denial about how quickly computing technology evolves. Once something becomes outdated you can't go bragging to your friends about having the latest and greatest hip thing.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By retrospooty on 6/16/2014 10:08:55 AM , Rating: 2
I am not sure what you are getting at. This model was kind of rumored for a long time, and many were let down when the S5 came out and it was just a normal phone. As for Flagships every 6 months or more (dont forget the Note series), whow does a newer better phone take away from your existing phone? There is always going to be newer better tech out, that is the way it works.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/16/2014 10:16:32 AM , Rating: 1
I could understand someone having a problem with flagships taking too long to refresh, but to complain about them coming out TOO often?

I don't understand..what exactly is the problem here? This isn't like the Droid/Droid MAXX at all. This isn't a Galaxy S5 refresh, it's an entirely different model line.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By quiksilvr on 6/16/2014 11:13:36 AM , Rating: 2
Considering that most carriers are still using the two year contract model it is rather annoying waiting for a flagship only to have it outclassed in the same year.

At the very least, it would be nice to know ahead of time what is to come instead of just being surprised that the problems with the flagship you purchased is fixed in a matter of months.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Rukkian on 6/16/2014 12:16:50 PM , Rating: 2
There is always something better on the horizon, either from the same company or another. If you must have the latest greatest, you will need to buy it (either financed or outright). There is no real way to stay up to date in any other way.

That is the way computing works, especially in a relatively new class of computing, like smartphones.

Make the most educated decision you can when you want to buy, and either be prepared to live with it when (not if) it is no longer the best device out there.

I have my LGG2 and love it. Would I love an LGG3 even more? Sure, but not enough to pay the extra money at this point.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Spuke on 6/16/2014 12:42:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I have my LGG2 and love it. Would I love an LGG3 even more? Sure, but not enough to pay the extra money at this point.
I have a G2 also and am perfectly happy with it. Not sure I want the G3 even if my contract was up.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By retrospooty on 6/16/2014 3:22:21 PM , Rating: 2
I have a G2 and am getting a G3 for sure... But only because I get one every year on our corp account and Verizon knocks it down to every 10 months.

If it were my own 2 year contract, I would be fine with waiting. The G2 is a great phone today and will still be great through 2015. The G3's existence simple doesn't affect it.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Spuke on 6/16/2014 5:02:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I have a G2 and am getting a G3 for sure... But only because I get one every year on our corp account and Verizon knocks it down to every 10 months.
That's a sweet deal!


RE: So it has come to this now?
By retrospooty on 6/16/2014 6:16:56 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, it is... I am not sure if its on all corp accounts or what, we aren't a huge company with any special perks. We have 600 total people so I assume its for all corp accounts...

Anyhow, on our Verizon portal, when we buy a phone we get the standard 2yr contract at the standard price ($199 for starting high end phone) For an extra $20 we can change the contract terms from 2 to 1 year. Then by default Verizon always shaves 2 months off. So the 1 year is now 10 months before I am eligible for upgrade. My G2 costed $219 for a 10 month contract... Now in July its up and my G3 will also be $219 and I will be eligible in May '15. Whoot!


RE: So it has come to this now?
By retrospooty on 6/16/2014 1:04:00 PM , Rating: 2
"At the very least, it would be nice to know ahead of time what is to come instead of just being surprised"

OK, consider this your notice. Any phone you ever buy will be outclassed by it's successor and its competitors very quickly, usually withing months. Just buy a phone that suits your needs. Newer phones with faster CPU's and whatever else they add on doesn't remove functionality of your current phone. If it suits your needs today, then this new one coming out doesnt change that next month...

If you are that concerned about having the latest at all times then get on a jump plan or competing offer and pay a bit extra and get a new phone every 6 months or so. It's really not complicated.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By quiksilvr on 6/16/2014 3:50:59 PM , Rating: 2
My concern is for the people locked into a two year contract that can only upgrade annually (or pay even more fees for faster upgrades) and are given no indication that the "flagship" they settled with is going to be outclassed in such a short time frame. Sure annually is fine, but LESS than six months and people finally get a metal Galaxy phone with an actual upgrade to the processor...and weren't told that such a device even existed?

I get that we have this notice NOW. It just begs the question why wasn't this flagship announced for the significant market of people that wanted these features but had to settle due to the limitations of their contract? Being aware of the choice and options would have sufficed.

I am not arguing that you should simply get what works for you and that you shouldn't be worried about the latest and greatest. And I am also aware of no-contract plans that make upgrading super easy (just sell the phone). Hell, I'm no contract and I had my Galaxy Nexus for two years without issue. But if you're tied to a contract and you're only window of opportunity is once every 1-2 years, you want to be sure you aren't simply "settling" for the year only to see that the phone is upgraded within months. It's a low blow against loyal users and bad business, just like with the DROID and DROID MAXX.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/16/2014 4:23:04 PM , Rating: 2
Sooo Samsung or whoever should formally announce they are working on a newer phone model?

Can we say "duh"? That's a given!!

Some of you here are just ridiculous, sorry. I can't even believe what I'm reading.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By Spuke on 6/16/2014 5:04:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Some of you here are just ridiculous, sorry. I can't even believe what I'm reading.
Like I said before, some people here are just weird.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By retrospooty on 6/16/2014 4:26:44 PM , Rating: 2
OK, I get your point, but then where do you draw the line?

The Galaxy S5 was announced a few months back... What if they announced it earlier? What if they announced this new metal one earlier? Then people that bought a few months before that would be in the same boat. There are always better phones and always will be. It's a given and like I said, if you or anyone else is concerned with it, they should pony up the extra $10 a month to get on their carriers jump/next whatever plan so they can upgrade more often.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By quiksilvr on 6/16/2014 7:02:32 PM , Rating: 2
I guess in 2015 this is a non-issue once we know the summer season is when the "pro" version of their spring flagship phone is released.

I was just hoping for a more clear cut schedule on this beforehand so consumers wouldn't get screwed this year.


By Monkey's Uncle on 6/17/2014 10:06:48 AM , Rating: 2
The galaxy F is a hardware update from the S5. The S5 would have had to come first to set the baseline.

But I wonder if you guys realize the aluminum part is nothing more than a flimsy little battery cover? Aluminum battery covers have been around on ebay for a while now for the S4 for about $5 each.

All it would really take is to buy an aluminum battery cover and *presto changeo* instant Samsung Galaxy F look-alike.


RE: So it has come to this now?
By atechfan on 6/16/2014 5:01:28 PM , Rating: 2
Better stuff will come out, get over it. MS was just slammed by some people for releasing the Surface Pro 3 so soon after Surface Pro 2 as well. Samsung was obviously planning something else when they released the S5, seeing as so many people were disappointed with how little it advanced from the S4. I figured there was a new flagship in the works.


By haukionkannel on 6/17/2014 3:13:43 AM , Rating: 2
The main and IMHO the only problem with many, many models is that it takes for ever to get upgrades to your phone.. sometimes you never get new vesion of the operation system, if the phone is not the most popular model... Samsung is one of those phone makers who has so many models that they don't have time to customize the phone os to every posible model they manufacture...
But as an upgrade to 5s this is ok. Just one more model to allready too big catalogy...


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