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Kazaa goes legal

In what the recording industry calls a win situation, four record labels have settled a lawsuit with popular P2P sharing network Kazaa. Under the settlement, Kazaa will pay more than $100 million to four to EMI, Sony BMG, Universal Music and Warner Music. Kazaa will also commit to going fully legitimate said the report.

According to the International Federation of Phonographic Industry, Kazaa has contributed to a significant amount of "damage" in the music industry. IFPI chairman and CEO John Kennedy said "these are very substantial damages being paid -- in excess of $100 million -- and Kazaa will go legal immediately. They've had time to prepare for this." Representatives for the MPAA also said that Kazaa will be implementing technology that will prevent users from transferring copyrighted material over the network.

The original developers of Kazaa, Niklas Zennstrom and Janus Friis sold Kazaa to Sharman Networks in 2002. Since then, Sharman had been dealing with the MPAA and the RIAA over the legality of Kazaa users transferring copyrighted material. Neither Zennstrom nor Friis was available for comment.

Zennstrom went on to create Skype after selling Kazaa to Sharman. Zennstrom ended up selling Skype to eBay for roughly $2.6 billion in both cash and stock.


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Err..
By Tin on 7/27/2006 4:11:17 PM , Rating: 2
Does Kazaa HAVE a hundred million dollars?




RE: Err..
By Falloutboy on 7/27/2006 4:13:04 PM , Rating: 5
I think the better question is who still uses kazza


RE: Err..
By ksherman on 7/27/2006 4:48:16 PM , Rating: 4
:)


RE: Err..
By othercents on 7/27/2006 4:49:46 PM , Rating: 2
Many people are still using Kazza. There are better tools out there, but they take more skill to use than Kazza does.

I just have to chuckle to see that the original programmers sold the program made their money and the new company is getting sued.

Other


RE: Err..
By mendocinosummit on 7/27/2006 4:58:13 PM , Rating: 2
Limewire is just as easy.


RE: Err..
By Vertigo101 on 7/27/2006 5:45:48 PM , Rating: 2
It's just as well. Kazaa is flooded with fake files these days, making it a pain to navigate.


RE: Err..
By MrSmurf on 7/27/2006 8:30:57 PM , Rating: 2
Limewire too last I heard. Heaven forbid you actually go through a little effort to get something you're stealing.


RE: Err..
By Xavian on 7/27/2006 6:59:40 PM , Rating: 2
shh dont tell everyone ;)


RE: Err..
By poohbear on 7/28/06, Rating: 0
RE: Err..
By masher2 (blog) on 7/28/2006 8:59:31 AM , Rating: 2
> "Stealing is when i take something from u and u no longer have access to it.."

Theft is defined as the unauthorized appropriation of property or services. Copyright theft is theft, plain and simple.

If you break into an empty hotel room and spend the night, you've stolen services...even though the hotel still has the room, and even if the hotel would not have rented the room. Similarly, if you tamper with a cable box to receive a free feed, you've stolen services...even though the cable company still "possesses" the signal.


RE: Err..
By rushfan2006 on 7/28/2006 9:06:51 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Theft is defined as the unauthorized appropriation of property or services. Copyright theft is theft, plain and simple.


I'm 99.9999999999% sure that the post you were referring to was meant as sarcastic humor. ;)



RE: Err..
By masher2 (blog) on 7/28/2006 10:04:25 AM , Rating: 2
> "I'm 99.9999999999% sure that the post you were referring to was meant as sarcastic humor. ;)"

I was nearly as sure it wasn't...so I'll guess we'll just have to let the original poster clarify :)


RE: Err..
By rushfan2006 on 7/28/2006 10:43:41 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
I was nearly as sure it wasn't...so I'll guess we'll just have to let the original poster clarify :)


Well in case (s)he comes back and say (s)he was serious and I don't get to post back in time.....then I agree with you 100% - it is stealing.

For the sake of that poster's own image of looking like a screwball -- I hope they were kidding. I mean a 5 year old knows that's stealing for crying out loud.

(Isn't it interesting how so many arguments come up to change the definition of theft or "stealing"; both terms I find very clear and easy to understand the defintions of...but getting something for nothing so often I guess becomes a kind of addiction, and addictions cause people to not think rationally).



RE: Err..
By Wwhat on 7/28/2006 6:08:52 PM , Rating: 2
Shoter Ocford Dictionary:
theft /TEft/ n.[OE (WS) ÞiefÞ, later ÞyfÞ, Þyft, (non-WS) ÞeofÞ, Þeoft = OFris. thiufthe, thiufte, ON Þýf<eth>, Þýft, f. Gmc base of THIEF: see -T2.]1 The action of a thief; the action or practice of stealing; larceny; spec. (Law) dishonest appropriation of another’s property with intent to deprive him or her of it permanently. Also, an instance of this. OE. 2 That which has been stolen. Now rare. OE.


RE: Err..
By Wwhat on 7/28/2006 6:10:18 PM , Rating: 2
That should read Shorter Oxford, fumblefingers ;|


RE: Err..
By masher2 (blog) on 7/28/2006 7:06:41 PM , Rating: 2
> "Shoter Ocford Dictionary"

Lookup the legal definition of theft in any state in the Union. This is from the Penn. State Penal Code:

quote:
Theft of Services [includes], but is not limited to, labor, professional service, transportation service, the supplying of hotel accommodations, restaurant services, entertainment, cable television service , the supplying of equipment for use and the supplying of commodities of a public utility nature such as gas, electricity, steam and water, and telephone or telecommunication service. The term "unauthorized" means that payment of full compensation for service has been avoided, or has been sought to be avoided, without the consent of the supplier of the service ....


Theft of intellectual property is theft. And, despite sophomoric justifications to the contrary, it deprives the owner of both control over his property, and the opportunity to profit from it. And please, don't again recite the old mantra that "I only steal what I don't intend to buy".


RE: Err..
By mindless1 on 7/30/2006 3:15:14 AM , Rating: 2
So sorry but you're completely, 100% wrong- as wrong as wrong gets!

Software piracy is not an appropriation of the property or service, it's an unauthorized distrubution or use of it.

Copyright theft is as any theft would be- stealing the copyright itself, becoming the copyright holder which is of course impossible through normal means since these things are documented.

If you broke into the hotel room, they have lost use of it, wear on it, have to clean it as well as general maintenance increase (as a %) on entire premises. Not so with piracy in general. Yes it is illegal but no, it's not any of the nonsense you pretend to know about.

It is likewise not "similar" to breaking into a cable box. That is their property (physical, box), and it is an access, use of their physical property. It would be similar to going to the software developer's office, sitting down at a terminal and using their equipment to run the software.

Please resist the urge to make up nonsense. Software piracy is not "like" some other dissimilar thing. It is illegal but not theft. We have more than 5 words in the english language because each word means something specific, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.


RE: Err..
By rushfan2006 on 7/28/2006 9:05:57 AM , Rating: 2
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*sigh* its not stealing, its file sharing. Stealing is when i take something from u and u no longer have access to it, it belongs to ME now. We dont do that, we share files w/ thousands of others. The music i download isnt mine, and i dont pretend it is, i share w/ everyone.:)


LMAO.....;)


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