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Samsung solid-state NAND hard drives will be cheaper than reported, more versatile

Earlier today Samsung announced its 4GB solid-state NAND hard drives. The 1.8" and 2.5" devices will primarily be marketed for enthusiast and high-end desktops supporting Microsoft Windows Vista's ReadyBoost feature.

A DailyTech competitor claims "Samsung confirmed to TG Daily that the SSD is likely to be priced below $200," implying the price of the drive would be just under $200.  In fact, when DailyTech talked to Samsung the company confirmed that the device will cost significantly less than that, perhaps as much as $100 less. The company has not released pricing on the drive yet, but current prices on the NAND spot market quote 4GB of flash memory between $62 and $70.  Samsung Semiconductor's Director of Flash Marketing, Don Barnetson, was able to confirm that a slight premium on these prices was more in line with real pricing of the drives.

Samsung clarified during our conversation that the initial versions of the SSD will feature a Parallel ATA interface as opposed to the newer Serial ATA interface use in notebooks and PCs. Additionally, many of the chipsets Intel is releasing do not support the PATA interface so Samsung will definitely need to think about switching to SATA sooner than later. The SSD drives can be mounted in a PC using mechanical mounts or a 2.5-inch slot.

According to Samsung, the 4GB SSD should be ready to ship in time for the Vista launch, and features 57MBps read speeds and 31MBps write speeds and up to 5,000 operations per second.

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By namechamps on 7/26/2006 11:34:33 PM , Rating: 2
What is with releasing new tech with old specs?

HD moved to SATA what 2 years ago. Now virtually all HD are native SATA and have no cost premium over PATA. However optical drives continue to love the ancient PATA. There have been like 2 SATA drives released and they have huge price premium. Same thing with PCI vs PCIe. There is no reason to make the switch. Can't be a chicken or the egg situation . Virtually every single MB in last year has both PCIe and SATA ports.

Would be nice is we could drop this legacy garbage. Remove PCI ports, PATA ports, serial ports, parallel ports, and maybe even PS2 ports (going to get flamed for that one). Replace them with 2+ more PCIe ports, 2+ more SATA ports, 2+ more USB ports and still have room for maybe another 2 1394 ports or maybe 2 1394a and 2 1394b ports and a eSATA port.

Products like this will keep legacy ports on motherboards for another 10 years.

By NainoKami on 7/27/2006 4:11:39 AM , Rating: 2
I do see the point of moving to newer technology, but if you have a PCI soundcard that you paid $ 8000 for, you're not going to be happy when you upgrade to a new PC and can't use it... It's an annoying fact that most people can't afford to replace an entire system - especially when they have expensive I/O interfaces and such.

By Dfere on 7/27/2006 7:51:12 AM , Rating: 2
Hello? Is this thing on? $8000 for a soundcard? How does that relate to PATA? (you shoulda used AT's RTE! or at least pricewatch).

New technology always has some legacy issues, but in this case, not many.

By rrsurfer1 on 7/27/2006 8:06:13 AM , Rating: 2
He's definitely refering to some professional hardware. There are plenty of high-end I/O cards costing that much.

By TomZ on 7/27/2006 8:39:33 AM , Rating: 2
I think your thesis would be more correct if you apply it to devices, not motherboards. New devices should use new interfaces, e.g., as you said SATA instead of PATA and PCIe instead of PCI.

But for motherboards, they should, and will, include both "legacy" and new interfaces for some time to come since not all devices, both pre-owned and new, use the newer interfaces yet. For example, most CD-ROMs and DVD-ROMs are still PATA. Many types of expansion cards are basically PCI only still.

By shamgar03 on 7/27/2006 9:02:12 AM , Rating: 2
I am not really sure the performance benefits of sata are really that great to justify upgradeing at this point. I don't really have the numbers to back that up, but I can't really tell the difference in speed between my raptors and my 80gig ATA100 driver. If you aren't doing alot of file transfers or digital editing it doesn't make sense to pay premium for sata...

By TomZ on 7/27/2006 10:29:35 AM , Rating: 2
The benefits of SATA to the end user is in terms of the better cabling and jumperless configuration. There shouldn't be, in the longer term, any price difference between SATA and PATA.

By highlandsun on 7/27/2006 3:06:33 PM , Rating: 2
I suspect the only reason they've gone this route is because they had the PATA interface on the shelf already. I.e., this drive is nothing more than a 4GB CompactFlash card with TrueIDE support, surrounded by a 2.5" hard drive case. From a technological perspective, it's utterly boring. From a storage perspective, come on, there's already 8GB CompactFlash cards out there, you can do better than this.

The I/O rate is nice, but SanDisk already released their 8GB CF card with 40MB/sec read and write speed, so there's really nothing impressive here at all besides the promised price. SanDisk's 8GB CF is $640, this is 4GB at $100-200. All this tells me is that SanDisk's product is way overpriced...

By GTVic on 7/27/2006 3:46:20 PM , Rating: 2
Since Vista is 1-1.5 years away I think this product will change significantly by the time it is in demand.

By TomZ on 7/27/2006 4:05:15 PM , Rating: 2
Since Vista is 1-1.5 years away I think this product will change significantly by the time it is in demand.

Are you being facetious? Vista is currently scheduled to release beginning of 2007, which is only around 6 months away.

By drank12quartsstrohsbeer on 7/28/2006 9:50:54 AM , Rating: 2
no kidding. I just bought a compactflash to IDE converter card from newegg for under $10.
Using it to replace a standard hard drive in an industrial machine. Because of the heat and vibration, we had been replacing the hard drives frequently. This converter plus a 2GB CF card was $80. More than enough room and speed to run DOS and the one application that controlls this machine.

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