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Microsoft's reenvisioning of the classic Desktop Mode Start Menu may be taking longer than expected

Top Windows blogger Mary Jo Foley wrote a post last week seeking to clarify exactly when Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) was planning on releasing its revived, reimagined version of the Windows Desktop Start Menu.
 
While slightly overhauled to feature a flatter, more graphical rich Modern UI style, the new Start Menu will be available in Desktop Mode and is expected to function much like the old Start Menu you knew and loved from Windows XP/Vista/7.
 
The bad news, according to Ms. Foley, is that the new Start Menu likely won't be finished until the launch of Windows 9 in April 2015.  We already know that Windows 9 is expected to be a pivotal release, unifying the APIs and app marketplaces of Windows, Windows RT, Windows Phone, and Xbox.
 
According to Ms. Foley's sources -- sources that have a "good track records on Windows information" -- Microsoft had initially hoped to offer the Start Menu revival with its Windows 8.1 Update 2, which is expected to launch later this year.  However, it wasn't satisfied with the results, so it decided to push that item on towards Windows "Threshold" -- a codename that is believed to stand for the next major version of Windows, Windows 9.

Windows 8 Start Menu
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The ability to run Modern UI (Metro) apps in a windows form in Desktop Mode has also reportedly been punted until Windows 9.
 
So what's Windows 8.1 Update 2 going to include, since the two big-ticket items (Start Menu, windowed Metro apps) are gone?  Ms. Foley says she's not sure, writing:
 
So now what's going to be in Windows 8.1 Update 2? Will there be any user-interface changes or will it be more a vehicle for under-the-covers programming interface and reliability improvements? I don't know at this point.
 
If true, this is rather disappointing news for many Windows fans, but it is not altogether unexpected.  At BUILD 2014 in April, Ms. Foley asked Microsoft's Windows executive vice president Terry Myerson why the Start Menu wasn't included in Windows 8.1 Update 1.  He explained at the time:
 
The reason we (showed) that work is we thought it was important to share with developers. When do I deliver it? I really don't have anything to share there. We're just not ready yet.
 
If Ms. Foley's sources are to be believed, it sounds like Microsoft is still feeling the same way, hence it has opted to make an already major release (Windows 9) even more of a leap.  For now Windows 8 users will have to make due with less tightly integrated third party alternatives, such as Start8 from Stardock and the Pokki Windows 8 Start Menu, if they want a Start Menu on their Windows 8 desktop.

Source: ZDNet



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RE: Business
By DiscoWade on 6/9/2014 12:30:18 PM , Rating: 1
8.1 is really not that bad. The start screen is miles better than regular 8.0. Although I still hate the "metro" start screen, I can tolerate it in the 8.1 version.

There are other things in Windows 8/8.1 that I cannot tolerate. The biggest is the lack of Aero and the general ugliness of the UI. For some reason, my eyes have a hard time with the UI of Windows 8. The square corners and the lack of color just bother me.

The second is how hard Microsoft tries to get you to use a Microsoft ID to log in. A common problem with Windows 8 is when it the wireless settings and password settings become corrupted. When you boot your computer, sometimes it is not connected to the internet and so Windows 8 tells you to use the last password you used, but that is also corrupted. You'll have to find a wired connection to fix the problem. But what if you really did forget your password? You will need another computer to log in. My problem with the whole system is that I should not have to check-in with Microsoft to use my OS, ever, and it is much more difficult to clear a bad password.

The third is I do not ever ever EVER want to be forced to go through a Microsoft store to purchase my programs.


RE: Business
By retrospooty on 6/9/2014 12:33:48 PM , Rating: 2
"8.1 is really not that bad"

Yup. It's really not. This should be MS's new slogan. " Windows 8.1 , it's really not that bad"

LOL...

I personally really like the hybrid tart menu and was looking forward to it in Win8.1 update2. Bummer.


RE: Business
By haukionkannel on 6/12/2014 5:37:03 AM , Rating: 2
It would have been nice to have those features...
I am quite happy with win8.1, but I have heavily pimped version of it. Start8 (start menu), modernmix (windowed metro apps), windowsblind (better looking ui), object dock (some more eye candy), rain meter (even more eye candy...

Those first two are most important and those features were supposed to be in win 8.2. But I can understand why those make better sense in win9 from economical point of view.
But MS tendency of big leap, refine, big leap, refine... will lead to this kind of situation. Automatically this mean that the second version is almost always better, because most hard parts have been tinkered out. Is it wise... that is harder to say.
But as I said win8 is fine os, is just is too much different than previous one. It has been very stable and with some eye candy suitable also to my kind of user who likes his UI to look good, even at the expense of speed.


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