Report: Start Menu Revival is Delayed Until Windows 9
June 9, 2014 11:51 AM
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Microsoft's reenvisioning of the classic Desktop Mode Start Menu may be taking longer than expected
Top Windows blogger Mary Jo Foley
wrote a post
last week seeking to clarify exactly when Microsoft Corp. (
) was planning on releasing its
revived, reimagined version of the Windows Desktop Start Menu
While slightly overhauled to feature a flatter, more graphical rich Modern UI style, the new Start Menu will be available in Desktop Mode and is expected to function much like
the old Start Menu
you knew and loved from Windows XP/Vista/7.
The bad news, according to Ms. Foley, is that the new Start Menu likely won't be finished until
the launch of Windows 9 in April 2015
. We already know that Windows 9 is expected to be a pivotal release, unifying the APIs and app marketplaces of Windows, Windows RT, Windows Phone, and Xbox.
According to Ms. Foley's sources -- sources that have a "good track records on Windows information" -- Microsoft had initially hoped to offer the Start Menu revival with its Windows 8.1 Update 2, which is expected to launch later this year. However, it wasn't satisfied with the results, so it decided to push that item on towards Windows "Threshold" -- a codename that is believed to stand for the next major version of Windows, Windows 9.
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The ability to run Modern UI (Metro) apps in a windows form in Desktop Mode has also reportedly been punted until Windows 9.
So what's Windows 8.1 Update 2 going to include, since the two big-ticket items (Start Menu, windowed Metro apps) are gone? Ms. Foley says she's not sure,
So now what's going to be in Windows 8.1 Update 2? Will there be any user-interface changes or will it be more a vehicle for under-the-covers programming interface and reliability improvements? I don't know at this point.
If true, this is rather disappointing news for many Windows fans, but it is not altogether unexpected. At BUILD 2014 in April, Ms. Foley asked Microsoft's Windows executive vice president Terry Myerson why the Start Menu wasn't included in Windows 8.1 Update 1.
at the time:
The reason we (showed) that work is we thought it was important to share with developers. When do I deliver it? I really don't have anything to share there. We're just not ready yet.
If Ms. Foley's sources are to be believed, it sounds like Microsoft is still feeling the same way, hence it has opted to make an already major release (Windows 9) even more of a leap. For now Windows 8 users will have to make due with less tightly integrated third party alternatives, such as
Start8 from Stardock
Pokki Windows 8 Start Menu
, if they want a Start Menu on their Windows 8 desktop.
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6/9/2014 12:27:12 PM
"Vista was good if you had a machine that wasn't entry level."
Not really true at release. It was buggy and had massive driver issues - MS's direct fault or not the driver issues were indirectly due to poor communication and poor OEM direction... AS for the majority of bugs, SP1 was pretty decent and by then the drivers issues were mostly resolved.
"Vista SP1 was good if you had a machine that wasn't entry level and OEM supported hardware" would be a more fair statement.
6/9/2014 12:37:53 PM
Agreed Vista had several big issues.
1 - Memory was duplicated which was a performance hit and required you had twice as much ram. It was later fixed but the damage was already done. Vista is really Windows 7 at this point.
2 - Drivers but not from Microsoft. Horribly written drivers especially from NVIDIA. Since NVIDIA was probably the majority back then Nvidia is mostly to blame for getting a horrible reputation.
NVIDIA drivers responsible for nearly 30% of Vista crashes in 2007
On top of that many companies never released drivers for Vista. I had a new scanner just 3 months old that never got drivers for Vista. That didn't stop the company from releasing new Scanners that did support vista. They screwed the consumer hoping to double dip you into buying a new scanner. Many companies hoped to dupe the consumer into well you need to buy new hardware for Vista to boost sales.
6/9/2014 12:53:33 PM
I had several high end laptops at work (dual core, 4GB ram) that came with Vista, and after struggling with them for several months we finally gave up and loaded XP. Much faster more reliable, and no driver problems.
Few years later, I loaded Windows 7 (64 bit) on the same laptops, and they ran better with Windows 7 than they did with XP. Allowed us to use then for a couple more years. Now they have been moved to the loaner pool, for the ocasional person who needs a laptop for light use out of the office.
6/9/2014 12:59:35 PM
I built a machine specifically for Vista x86 on its release. I had no drivers for anything. Within weeks I was able to find a printer and a scanner with adequate drivers from Canon. nVidia did not work. I used an ATI card with minimal problems. As the months passed and the vendors caught up to where they should have been, problems ceased to exist. I still use this machine daily although it is for secondary uses.
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