quote: Haggling doesn't save you a couple of grand. It prevents you from being overcharged a couple grand.
quote: If you are bad at haggling or don't haggle, you are overcharged a couple grand. If you are good at haggling, you save a couple grand.
quote: There is a cap as to how much you can haggle downwards, as no salesman will sell you a car at a loss (outside of rare circumstances).