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New Kinect-free edition unlocks memory bandwidth reserved for Microsoft's camera sensor

Given Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) supply struggles, sales struggles, and privacy concerns regarding the Xbox One's "Kinect" video and audio sensor, it's perhaps unsurprising that Microsoft decided to at last offer a cheaper ($399) SKU of its console without the sensor.  Now that decision has brought about an interesting twist -- Xbox One users who ditch the Kinect may be able to enjoy better graphics performance.
 
It turns out that Microsoft's always-on sensor reserves as much as 10 percent of its graphics hardware's memory bandwidth and processing resources for watching its user(s).  Comments a Microsoft spokesperson to Eurogamer:

Yes, the additional resources allow access to up to 10 per cent additional GPU performance.  We're committed to giving developers new tools and flexibility to make their Xbox One games even better by giving them the option to use the GPU reserve in whatever way is best for them and their games.

According to Eurogamer and The Verge, Microsoft will for the first time be allowing game developers to use these freed up resources to enable special "Kinect-free" enhanced graphics settings.  While that's good news for Xbox One gamers, it also adds an interesting extra nuance to an already heated debate.

Xbox One Kinect

Microsoft's Xbox One has trailed its rival Sony Corp.'s (TYO:6758) console after committing a number of missteps, including initially planning to use DRM to ban used games and threatening to make users' consoles unplayable offline.  While it later recanted on each of these controversial terms, the console has continued to struggle through a number of controversies.  To add insult to injury, Sony recently announced that its rival offering, the PlayStation 4 (PS4) was already profitable.
 
Nonetheless it has moved millions of units and isn't too far behind Sony's PS4 in lifetime sales.  Microsoft has remained very committed to its console, releasing a major update in April.
 
The future of the Xbox One should be elucidated at next week's 2014 E3 (Electronic Entertainment Expo), which is being held in Los Angeles, Calif.  Stephen Elop, the new executive vice president of Microsoft Devices (which makes the Xbox), is expected to present his vision for the future of the console along with new Xbox chief Phil Spencer at Microsoft's Monday, June 9 press event.

Sources: Eurogamer, via The Verge, Microsoft



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RE: Options
By retrospooty on 6/5/2014 12:34:31 PM , Rating: 2
"Oh yes this is a great opportunity for a thread crap to tell us were all stupid for buying a game console we enjoy playing"

You sound like you are having "tiny e-peen" issues. No-one said anything of the sort and you are already all defensive against... nothing.

I think its a good idea to de-couple it for people that dont want it and so that devs can utilize the extra memory bandwidth. Being as memory bandwidth is XBO's bottleneck, that is by far the best option. - Makes total sense.


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/14, Rating: 0
RE: Options
By retrospooty on 6/5/2014 1:41:06 PM , Rating: 2
"Mitch is becoming like Tony. He opens with the same passive aggressive style, then proceeds to make similar defensive passive aggressive comments to stuff NOBODY is even saying."

I know. I have noticed.

"Is someone from MS telling him to say this crap"

I have often thought the same about some of the "company first" nutjobs here that only post or care about one company and ignore the rest of the tech world... In the end does it matter? If someone is FOS, and only posts on behalf of a company they are one of 2 things...

1. A serious fanboy
or
2. A company plant

Neither are more or less useless than the other, both are equally and totally useless and transparent.


RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2014 2:38:40 PM , Rating: 2
Cant beat them into Android or PS4 must be:

1. A serious fanboy
or
2. A company plant

How about just liking Kinect style games and liking the Microsoft lineup? Nope.

How about I didnt like the way Sony handles repetitive loss of user information and denying they were hacked? Nope.

Must be Aliens then.


RE: Options
By retrospooty on 6/5/2014 3:10:48 PM , Rating: 2
You are confused alot. You defend anything and everything MS does and get upset when anyone else doesn't like what your company does. I don't give a crap about Sony, Google, or any other company. I care about tech and tech products and what they do for me.

Let me put it this way.

Between 2 consoles Ps4 and XBO, I like PS4 because it us faster and cheaper. You like Microsoft (the company) because its Microsoft.

Between 2 mobile OS's Android and WP, I like Android because it gives me the best options for what I do with it. You like Microsoft (the company) because its Microsoft.

Between 2 Major PC OS's Windows and Mac, I like Windows because it gives me the best options for what I do with it. You like Microsoft (the company) because its Microsoft.

Yeah... Must be aleins.


RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2014 3:36:07 PM , Rating: 2
Fail again.

We have a One because of kinect. My family likes the dance games plenty of posts about it. I don't find playing at 960p or even if it were 720p a problem because its not 1080p. You hate Microsoft because you think gameplay is somehow effected by resolution.

I like Windows Phone because between the several devices my wife an I owned Windows Phone never crashed and black screened ever. ALL our Android devices needed regular reboots because of glitches and issues.

I like Windows OS even 8 because I'm smart enough to install a free all that fixed the start menu instead of predicting the end of the world.

This place is close to seeing your Reclaimer light.


RE: Options
By retrospooty on 6/5/2014 4:12:23 PM , Rating: 2
OK, I gavbe you my reasons and you gave me yours. Nothing wrong with either.

"You hate Microsoft"

Uhh... I like Microsoft, alot. That is the whole part you are too fanboybutthurt to grasp. I like MS and use and enjoy their products every single day of my life at work and at home . I am even very much looking forward to the Win8.2 fall update that adds the hybrid start menu. You are so stuck on stupid with your "fanboy illogic" that you cant even see the obvious.


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/14, Rating: -1
RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2014 4:51:20 PM , Rating: 2
The real fanboism is consistently coming to a Windows based article to only try and negate everyone's comments who purchased an XBox One.

All I care is are the games fun. Yes they are. My family enjoys the Kinect case closed thats not being a fanboi.

The only negative I have to say is for pushing the Kinect I would like to have more titles that use it but in due time.


RE: Options
By retrospooty on 6/5/2014 5:08:11 PM , Rating: 2
Ya didn't read a word did ya?

"My family enjoys the Kinect case closed thats not being a fanboi."

So does mine. I have a 360 w/ Kinect. And no, that isn't being a fanboy. Getting all upset anytime anyone doesn't like something MS did, THAT is being a fanboy.


RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2014 2:35:53 PM , Rating: 2
Its a reference really toward you and your obsessive behavior to provide negative commentary toward anything Microsoft while at the same time many of us don't join Android threads just to crap on the platform. God forbid you miss an opportunity to tell us how dumb we are for getting anything Microsoft.


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/2014 2:52:36 PM , Rating: 1
Except NOBODY was doing that. Your stupid statements, if anything, are inviting that to happen. You were already acting butthurt, so hey, might as well give you a reason to act that way.

How is it "Microsoft bashing" if someone is against the corner-cutting practices and poor quality of their next generation console? Please explain that to me.

Your commentaries about DX12 and "bare metal" are those of a shill straight from MS's PR department or something. If you actually believe that hype, you know even less about computing than you sound.


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By retrospooty on 6/5/2014 3:14:25 PM , Rating: 2
"Except NOBODY was doing that. Your stupid statements, if anything, are inviting that to happen. You were already acting butthurt, so hey, might as well give you a reason to act that way."

Exactly. He was bellyaching before anyone said anything. This was a good move by MS is the only thing I have seen anyone here say. The XBO is memory bandwidth limited, this would only help it where its needed the most. Who could argue with that logic or claim it isnt a fact (other than Mitch of course)


RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2014 3:37:05 PM , Rating: 2
Really why are the two of you here if you dont own an XBox one nor do either of you plan on owning one?


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/2014 3:45:40 PM , Rating: 2
lol wow, what a typical fanboi response. Myopic in extremis.

Let's only discuss technologies we're planning to personally own?

And how do you know I'm never going to buy an Xbox One? I might need a new doorstop soon!


RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2014 3:47:05 PM , Rating: 2
Your so funny last time I laughed at something you posted I fell off my dinosaur.

Myopic did you get a word of the day calendar?


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/2014 4:01:05 PM , Rating: 2
Pfft myopic is easy. What's really making you jelly is my seamless use of Latin as I spit truths at you like a wordsmith.

I'm the Kanye West of DT!!!


RE: Options
By retrospooty on 6/5/2014 4:03:11 PM , Rating: 2
"Really why are the two of you here if you dont own an XBox one nor do either of you plan on owning one?"

There are 2 problems with your statement.

1. This is tech news on a tech news site. I am here reading the article and if you look at my other posts that aren't addressing your butthurtness , you will see I am saying this is a great idea. MS is helping the XBO where it needs it the most, memory bandwidth. Good!

2. I will have an XBO, but not the initial $500 at release one. Not worth it to me. I will grab a latter revision in a year or two I am sure.

Now here is what you need to grasp... Much like Win Vista, and Win8, MS made some huge mistakes. But they do always go back and fix it. Win7 came out with a big slapback fixing everything from Vista, and it worked. People loved 7. Same thing with XBO, the always on and must have internet and no used games thing, and must have Kinect? They fixed it all right? But you could never see past people complaining to fix issues, you just see it all as railing against MS like a butthurt fanboy.

I am fan of MS's work . Not all of it, but most of it. Let me ask you this very simple question. If customers dont complain when a company borks it up, how will the company know to fix it? MS Fixed Vista, they Fixed much of the XBO issues, and the are fixing the UI issues with Win 8. How would they have known if the internet wasnt on fire with people complaining? Get some perspective. No one is hating on MS (Except Argon18, that guy REALLY hates MS LOL).


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/2014 3:50:49 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, I wasn't even planning on posting here until I read his OP and subsequent statements. But ya know, if he's gonna be a little bi*ch I think I've decided to threadcap this mother lol.

quote:
Who could argue with that logic or claim it isnt a fact (other than Mitch of course)


LOL yeah, it's not slower guys!! It just needs more "bare metal" optimizations and a eight billion percent boost from Direct X12!! It's coming!!!

I think if Microsoft released a Pentium 486 based Xbox, he would argue that it's just a few optimizations away, hahahaa.


RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2014 4:56:01 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I wasn't even planning on posting here until I read his OP - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=35017...

Liar - just look at every Microsoft thread here.


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/6/2014 8:10:00 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks to Jason Mick about 95% of the articles on any given day are about Microsoft. Don't blame me!


RE: Options
By Mitch101 on 6/6/2014 8:28:30 AM , Rating: 2
You can always not post to them. Posting to them your supporting the reason you feel they do it. But its really evident your only here to pee in Microsoft corn flakes nothing more. I find there are equally as many Android and Apple articles maybe more so I think anytime Microsoft gets some press you go off the handle.


RE: Options
By Reclaimer77 on 6/6/2014 8:37:56 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
But its really evident your only here to pee in Microsoft corn flakes nothing more.


I don't know anyone besides you who actually thinks that's my only reason for being here.

If this entire discussion proved anything, it's that your entire reality, your perception of everything here, revolves around a single corporate entity: Microsoft.

Sad.


RE: Options
By Alexvrb on 6/5/2014 11:43:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yup, I wasn't even planning on posting here
I think Scooby Doo put it best when he said: "Rwear, rokay!"

That of course doesn't make Mitch less of a fanboy, but to be fair you did kind of fulfill his prophecy in a manner of speaking. He'd have looked more like a troll otherwise.

Also the 486 predated the Pentium line.


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