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Government is one of Microsoft's few paying customers in China, where piracy runs rampant

The Chinese government is in a bit of a spat with Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) over Windows support.  Relations between the pair have long been strained over accusations of rampant piracy in the fast-growing Asian nation.
 
But with the end of support for most SKUs of the 13-year-old Windows XP things have reached the boiling point.  China has said that it plans to continue to use Windows XP on most government computers.  The government says it will patch the aging operating system itself, rather than pay Microsoft large fees as the UK government has agreed to.
 
Now it's lashed out at Microsoft with a punitive gesture.
 
In a Chinese language notice posted on the website of the China's Central Government Procurement Center the government official banned Windows 8 from its computers.  Reuters reports:

The official Xinhua news agency said the ban was to ensure computer security after Microsoft ended support for its Windows XP operating system, which was widely used in China.

It's not immediately clear how sticking with the unsupported Windows XP rather than the regularly updated Windows 8 will improve security.  The comment may also related to the growing rift between China and the U.S. over spying by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA).  Amid accusations that the NSA is intercepting shipments of hardware and software from American companies and modifying them with spying features, China is looking to avoid government use of hardware made in America.

Windows 8 in China
Former Microsoft Windows President Steven Sinofsky announces Windows 8 at an Oct. 2012 launch event in China. [Image Source: EPA]

Even if that was what China was hinting at, the prohibition notice was aired in an odd spot as it was put in an energy efficiency notice.
 
Windows 8 is still available for sale in the Chinese consumer market, retailing for 888 yuan, or roughly $142 USD.  Currently, roughly 50 percent of Chinese computers run Windows XP, well above the global consumer average of about 25 percent.  In 2011 then-Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer told employees that due to China's rampant piracy Microsoft makes less in revenue from the Asian nation than the tiny European country of the Netherlands, whose population is about 1/80th the size of China's.
 
Still the decision of the Chinese government -- typically one of the few parties in China not to pirate Microsoft's products -- to snub Windows 8 is a blow to Microsoft's campaign to reinvigorate sales of the 2-year-old operating system.

Source: Reuters



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RE: More and More Government
By Reclaimer77 on 5/20/2014 4:44:09 PM , Rating: 0
I'm pretty sure that if this "Reagancare" mandated, under penalty, that every citizen purchase a commercial product (Insurance) we would have heard about it by now.

Reagancare was a tweak. Obamacare is a sledgehammer. Maybe that's the difference you don't seem willing to acknowledge.

Sure, you are drawing a parallel. I get that. But your strokes are SO broad, the parallel isn't very informative.

There are many parallel's one could draw between a Jetski and a pontoon boat too. But the devil is in the details. The two aren't really that similar.

I don't know if you think you're being clever, or are just outright being an apologist. And I cannot seriously believe you just said this:

quote:
If the U.S. becomes a single payer system the blame will lie heavily on professionals for failing to demand proper compensation in terms of healthcare.


That's batsh*t crazy talk man. The Government has essentially TAKEN OVER the healthcare industry as far as insurance coverage goes. They mandate what coverage you get, what level of care you receive...just everything. Obama doesn't give a damn what "professionals" think about the ACA!

Furthermore you seem to have a fundamental lack of what I was getting at. Namely, the individual mandate. Obamacare only works if young healthy individuals pay into the system to offset all these insane costs the ACA mandates the insurance companies have to accrue.

Now it doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going to happen. There is just NO WAY enough people are going to sign up for this nonsense to offset all these costs and penalties.

And that's not even getting into the employer mandate, which presumably will go into effect whenever Obama decides to stop (illegally) pushing it back till after the election.

When faced with insurance premiums you cannot possibly meet, combined with a deductible you would be CRAZY to even touch, you're probably going to just take the weak "tax" for not having insurance.

Thus begins the collapse of private insurance as we know it in America, and the rise of the single payer "solution".


RE: More and More Government
By JasonMick (blog) on 5/20/2014 5:51:09 PM , Rating: 3
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I'm pretty sure that if this "Reagancare" mandated, under penalty, that every citizen purchase a commercial product (Insurance) we would have heard about it by now.

Reagancare was a tweak. Obamacare is a sledgehammer. Maybe that's the difference you don't seem willing to acknowledge.

Sure, you are drawing a parallel. I get that. But your strokes are SO broad, the parallel isn't very informative.
Ummm I think you failed to notice the part where billions of your taxpayer money were funneled to hospitals in medicaid funds under Reagancare.

How is that a "tweak"?

I see it as a special interest payout.

I already stated what you reiterated (correctly) that Obamacare mandates individuals to pay insurance or face a penalty. But the penalty is relatively small compared to the amount of tax money that's being spent to pay both insurers and hospitals.

My point is that there was already a LARGE special interest payout to hospitals (that perhaps you are unaware of) that grossly eclipses the small penalties paid under the new mandate. Obamacare's biggest action is to shift that large payout from the hospitals, partially, to the insurers, via cooperating with them in a kickback scheme to insure the uninsured.

Again the large special interest payout was there BEFORE Obamacare. But nobody seems to care, since it was Reagan.

If you don't believe me, go to the budget numbers and look at the Medicaid budgets. Literally billions are spent yearly on Reagancare. Emergency care for all of America's uninsured isn't cheap.

You were paying under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush Jr. for EMTALA. Whether or not you were ignorant to those payouts is a moot point.

I think you're misunderstanding me somewhat. My point is that whether we keep Obamacare, or go back to the "old" system as Republicans want to do is a moot point, as either way billions will be spent in Medicaid payouts to cover America's uninsured or otherwise uninsured. The real solution is either to scrap Reagancare and Obamacare altogether, if you want to go that route, or otherwise adopt true public healthcare (which the current corrupt kickback system is not). Simply scrapping one -- Obamacare or Reagancare -- without scrapping the other will do very little as the funding will just shift from the insurers to the hospitals.

You'll still be paying either way.

At least bother to understand the problem you're trying to fix.


RE: More and More Government
By Reclaimer77 on 5/21/2014 12:19:59 PM , Rating: 2
Dude I grew up in the freaking 80's, and I never heard about this "Reagancare". Because it wasn't a thing, it didn't exist. You're the only one I ever heard call it that.

You ALWAYS do this. Come out of left field with some crazy BS in order to look objective.

So we cant criticize Obamacare without also referencing some 30+ year old obscure piece of legislation nobody even heard about?

Okay real sound talking point there! Congrats I guess? But I'm just tired of this Red Herring being used. Whenever Obamacare takes heat, there's some wacko quick to point out Romneycare, or that somehow it was the Heritage Foundations "idea", and now we have "Reagancare". As if those things are relevant, or somehow make Obamacare less of a freaking Socialist disaster.

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But nobody seems to care, since it was Reagan.


This is the smartest thing you've said yet. You're damn right nobody cares about that. It's completely irrelevant! You're just engaging in finger pointing for the sake of it. I guess blaming Bush for everything got old, so now you people are going after Reagan. That's just brilliant lol.

Also Reagan was a god who could do no wrong. Just accept that and move on.


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