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Ari Partinen was a key player on the Nokia PureView camera system

Yesterday we were all taken by surprise when it was announced that Apple is in talks to purchase Beats Electronics for $3.2 billion. The move would not only give Apple access to Beats’ lineup of popular headphones, but also its Beats Music streaming service which has garnered favorable reviews from critics (and users).
 
This week has also seen Apple departures including longtime PR chief Katie Cotton and Zane Row, VP of Sales for North America. Today we’re learning about an actual addition to the family instead of a subtraction. Apple hired Ari Partinen, who was formally the Lumia Photography Lead at Nokia and is listed as one of the inventors of the PureView camera system.



The 41-megapixel PureView camera on the Lumia 1020 is widely hailed as one of the best mobile camera solutions currently available.


Nokia Lumia 1020 with its 41MP PureView camera
 
The 8MP rear shooter on the iPhone 5s has also been regarded as an excellent smartphone-class camera, but there is always room for improvement.  And while the addition of Partinen to the Apple family means that we’re sure to see an uptick in iPhone camera quality down the road, his contributions won’t come soon enough to be featured on the iPhone 6.
 
Speaking of the iPhone 6, Reuters is reporting that Apple’s next generation flagship smartphone will arrive a month earlier than previously thought -- the 4.7” smartphone is now expected to arrive in stores this August. Apple is quickly ramping up production of the iPhone 6, and has plans to produce 80 million handsets via its partners before the end of the year.


4.7" iPhone 6 mockup
 
The 4.7” version of the iPhone 6 will be the first to hit store shelves, but it’s been widely reported that a larger, 5.5” version won’t be too far behind.

Sources: Engadget, Ari Partinen/Twitter, Reuters



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Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By inteli722 on 5/9/2014 4:23:36 PM , Rating: 5
3.5 inches was good enough...until it wasn't
4 inches was good enough...until it wasn't
iOS was good enough...until it wasn't.

When is Apple going to stop playing catchup and release an actual, groundbreaking feature that was only on one other phone again?




RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By retrospooty on 5/9/2014 4:48:31 PM , Rating: 3
Dont forget, 2G was good enough...until it wasn't. Then 3G as well (remember the iPhone was 2G when everyone else was 3G).

It's funny. Apple shamelessly sues others for copying trivial items like slide to unlock, bounce animations, rounded edges and the look and shape of an icon yet nothing is said at all when they copy highly useful things such as drop down notifications (from Android), multitasking (from Android), the whole task switching UI (poorly copied from Web OS), the flat look and feel (from Microsoft), they were years late with 3G , 4G, decent screen sizes, not to mention the whole smartphone concept in the first place copied from Palm and RIMM.

Yet they sue over such minutia. Bizarro world.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By dudeman44 on 5/9/14, Rating: 0
RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By retrospooty on 5/9/2014 5:23:51 PM , Rating: 2
Yes dude... All companies copy the successful ideas of other companies. That is how business works. It's not who did it first many years ago, its who does it best today at the best price point that wins the business.

I was not saying Apple wasnt copied I was just adding that they do it too, as much even more than anyone. As far as copying everyone copies. If not , there would be only one car company because every other car is a copy. There would be only one Television because every other one is a copy.

You people that think Apple invented the modern smartphone and therefore have some sort of a right to corner the market are the dumbest bunch of techtards I have ever seen. Get some perspective.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By dudeman44 on 5/9/14, Rating: 0
By retrospooty on 5/9/2014 6:13:00 PM , Rating: 4
"Evidently you don't subscribe to the idea of patents. Companies that invest millions in R&D shouldn't have companies like Samsung just rip it off for free. "

I subscribe to the idea that the patent system is completely broken especially when it comes to software. Most of what Apple patented shouldn't have been granted and is trivial.

"when it comes to major game changing tech, Apple's paving that highway"

ROFLMAO!!!! WHAT!

OK, nevermind. It's clear now you are either a total troll, completely ignorant or just plain insane. That was a great laugh to end my work week though. Thanks for that.


By ritualm on 5/9/2014 10:15:17 PM , Rating: 2
dudeman44, you're doing everything completely wrong. Using any article from tuaw, bgr and appleinsider as your proof is the fastest way to get sh!tfaced. Want to argue? Then use the same sources Android folks use - and turn the evidence against themselves.

You can't destroy arguments from the outside, you have to work from within. Remember: Julius Caesar repeatedly defeated death in battle, only to die within the friendly walls of Rome.


By WldAntc on 5/11/2014 11:58:40 PM , Rating: 2
Apple stopped "inventing" when Woz left...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0
A dated video but things have not changed.

While you may feel that Apple is the Independent Owner and Master Chef at your local Asian/Spanish/Indian/Etc Fusion restaurant. Who is consistently paving the way with innovative new dishes, years ahead of everyone else... that's far from reality.

The truest analogy would be to call them the Menu Designer, as they primarily make the interface between consumer and cook. Apple decides what is trending, presents these limited items to the consumers in magical formats and gets the actual chefs to invent the dish.

Apple purchases the various components that make their products from Foxconn, ARM, Samsung, Sony etc.
Retina Display, Multitouch, A6, iSight and just about EVRYTHING else was purchased from another manufacturer or acquired by purchasing a company that actually invented the tech.

Apple WAS incredibly inventive when they first created the iOS software... that has nearly stagnated.
Apple IS incredibly inventive with patent litigation on prior-art, the NON-nonobvious and making an application as vague and general as possible... that is the highway they are paving.

If your magical Apple opinion is entirely based on software they invented or the FASHION by which they assemble other companies components... you are entitled to that opinion.
If however, it is based on hardware or patents... it is invalid.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Keeir on 5/9/2014 7:05:07 PM , Rating: 1
Hmmm..

You seemed pretty perjorative that Apple might have copied someone else, yet when its pointed out that Apple did indeed set the ball rolling on touchscreen smartphones that essentially every major manufacturing and phone OS is now designed around you become very defensive.

The truth is, when the iPhone first came to market, it was significantly ahead, conceptually, of how all previous major players in the market viewed how to produce and market a smartphone/OS. Since then Apple, Microsoft, HTC, Samsung, Google, etc have all copied back and forth the implementation of this original concept. The copied of the concept is far "worse"/serious then coping a small peice of the implementation of a concept. As a side note, this is why no one feels there is significant "true" new features added. The base concept of a smartphone has remained the same since 2007 with very little alteration. Not surprizing. The base concept of a car has essentially remained unchanged close to a 100 years now. It is possible that the concept of a smartphone will remain unchanged for a similiar length of time.


By retrospooty on 5/9/2014 7:52:21 PM , Rating: 2
"The truth is, when the iPhone first came to market, it was significantly ahead, conceptually, of how all previous major players in the market viewed how to produce and market a smartphone/OS. Since then Apple, Microsoft, HTC, Samsung, Google, etc have all copied back and forth the implementation of this original concept"

Totally agreed. But it doesnt give them sole access to the entire market. I am not against companies copying each other, that is how the earth has always worked ... its the hypocracy that smells.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Solandri on 5/11/2014 2:17:44 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
You seemed pretty perjorative that Apple might have copied someone else, yet when its pointed out that Apple did indeed set the ball rolling on touchscreen smartphones that essentially every major manufacturing and phone OS is now designed around you become very defensive.

Actually, the LG Prada beat the iPhone as the first predominantly touchscreen interface phone by a month. It just wasn't as big a commercial success as the iPhone was, so it's mostly forgotten leading to a lot of the general public thinking the iPhone was first. It wasn't. Just because the first time you saw something was on an Apple product doesn't mean Apple invented it.

The fact that others were working on it indicates it was an evolutionary improvement to smartphone design, not a revolutionary one. Where I would give Apple kudos is in taking the risk of putting the unproven technology on their only phone, bringing (copying) dynamic spell correction and gestures like pinch to zoom to the platform, and introducing the concept of an App ecosystem as a method to put software on the platform (before you had to download on your PC, and copy it over to the phone via USB).


By ihateu3 on 5/12/2014 12:37:01 AM , Rating: 2
And let's also not foget about an HTC product that ALSO beat the iphone to market by almost a month, the "HTC touch".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htc_touch


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Argon18 on 5/12/2014 11:47:53 AM , Rating: 2
"Yes dude... All companies copy the successful ideas of other companies. That is how business works. It's not who did it first many years ago, its who does it best today at the best price point that wins the business."

Huh? Where did you get this idea? Civilized nations have a patent system that rewards "who did it first". Makes sense, as the first usually spends a massive amount of time and money to invent or create the thing, while the me-too copycats can just sit back and watch. Google 'patent' and read up on it, I don't think you're familiar with the concept as it applies to the business world.

"As far as copying everyone copies. If not , there would be only one car company because every other car is a copy. There would be only one Television because every other one is a copy."

Ok now you've convinced me; you really really don't have a clue what the patent system is or what it means. Zero clue. Your television and car analogy is literally the most idiotic comment I've ever read on DT regarding patents. Bravo!

"You people that think Apple invented the modern smartphone and therefore have some sort of a right to corner the market are the dumbest bunch of techtards I have ever seen. Get some perspective."

So who did invent it then? Hmm? Wintards like to throw this argument out without actually answering the question. The fact is that Apple did indeed invent the modern touch-screen consumer smart phone. They were the first.

There were business oriented smart phones that came earlier, Palm, Symbian, BlackBerry, but those were all business oriented. No 14 year old girls were begging their parents to buy them a BlackBerry for Christmas.

I don't even like Apple products, but I've been around long enough to see that nobody had a touch screen smart phone with an App Store ecosystem before the iPhone.


By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 8:12:02 AM , Rating: 2
"Huh? Where did you get this idea? Civilized nations have a patent system that rewards "who did it first. Makes sense, as the first usually spends a massive amount of time and money to invent or create the thing, while the me-too copycats can just sit back and watch. Google 'patent' and read up on it, I don't think you're familiar with the concept as it applies to the business world."

Yes captain obvious, we are all aware of the patent system, and you may have read a common theme going for the past several years on any tech forum anywhere on earth regarding the patent system... It's broken. It's broken from the ground up, especially with regards to software. And yes, all companies do copy. They blatantly copy and always have. They copy within and without the confines of the broken patent system and its OK. That is how the world works and always has. The only thing that stinks lately is the ridiculous patents being granted for trivial things and the hypocritical lawsuits

"The fact is that Apple did indeed invent the modern touch-screen consumer smart phone. They were the first."

No that is 2 separate "facts" and one is totally incorrect.

Apple did not "invent" the modern smartphone. They took existing tech like Palm and RIM had and licences the multitouch and created a click UI. They didn't "invent" it, they were first to market with it. If they "invented" it they would have patented it and no-one else would be allowed to make it. Look up the patent cases for Apple. They aren't suing for multitouch UI or anything like that. It's trivial items like "bounce animations" and the look and feel of an icon and rounded edges and slide to unlock animations. Funny when misunderstanding comments and calling something out, you should really do a bit of research to make sure what you are saying isnt completely uneducated. /fail

There is a system in place and Apple has been amply rewarded for their contributions with years of record profits. The broken system isnt helping anything but feed lawyers and the sue happy mentality that keeps them employed.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Solandri on 5/11/2014 12:56:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Have you ever seen what Android looked like just prior to the release of the first iPhone, and then shortly after? Here you go:

Yes, if you blatantly ignore anything which contradicts the conclusion you want people to draw, of course it looks like Apple was "leading".

Truth is, the iPhone wasn't even the first purely touchscreen (sans keyboard/keypad) phone. That honor went to the LG Prada announced and demoed to the public a month before the iPhone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada

And Samsung's internal documents which the court squelched on a technicality (they missed a filing deadline) shows pretty clearly that they had iPhone-like designs in the works before the iPhone ever saw the light of day.
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012...

When evaluating evidence before reaching a conclusion, it's important to evaluate all the evidence that's out there. Not just evidence which supports a predetermined conclusion the creator of the graphic you posted wanted people to reach. Remember, disproving a hypothesis merely takes a single contradictory example, which the LG Prada more that does. Smartphones were well on their way to becoming "iPhone-like" before the iPhone ever showed up.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Keeir on 5/12/2014 2:30:21 PM , Rating: 1
I'm disapointed Solandri.

quote:
Remember, disproving a hypothesis merely takes a single contradictory example, which the LG Prada more that does. Smartphones were well on their way to becoming "iPhone-like" before the iPhone ever showed up.


The "product" innovation of the iPhone wasn't a "touch screen". It was the total package of hardware and OS designed specifically around touch as the only input and for a phone that wasn't just a phone, but a total multimedia product/computer aimed at the common consumer. (For example, the interal memory on a Prada was 8 MB shared with the OS. You had to go and purchase a Flash Card and know how to use the Phone's OS to access it)

There is a reason that LG Prada and HTC Touch didn't sell (as) well. They were laughably out of date compared to the iPhone from an OS standpoint. The Prada while sharing alot of the same designs as an iPhone was really nothing more than a typical phone with a touch screen as a gimic. The HTC Touch was a PDA that could make phone calls.

It took Google writing a OS from "scratch" specifically designed around touch interface and a multimedia phone to challenge Apple's dominance in the field. (Not to mention Google almost giving it away for free)

Now, I agree that many of Apple's patents and lawsuits there-in are frivolous and misguided. But the patent system was designed to allow companies to have a reasonable time period as a monopoly to encourage invention and investment. Since software is very "flexible", it is difficult to patent the appropriate invention for the iPhone. I understand why (from Apple's standpoint) Apple decided to try their luck with the patents as they were written. It just shows how much software and electronics need thier own patent system. (Maybe more protection over a shorter time frame?)


By retrospooty on 5/12/2014 3:27:48 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, Apple was the 1st to market with the slick multitouch UI. Now lets all get over it and stop acting like Apple invented the modern smartphone. They didn't. They advanced one thing and are one of many many companies who's ideas are used in modern smartphones. Today, in 2014 the OS is laughably dated and is missing tons of useful features that other OS's provide.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By KiwiTT on 5/9/14, Rating: -1
RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Solandri on 5/11/2014 2:23:43 PM , Rating: 2
That's what Blackberry thought when they were the smartphone market leader. Look where it got them.

To Apple's credit, they are doing what's better for the customer and eating crow when it comes to things like screen size.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Falacer on 5/9/2014 4:59:00 PM , Rating: 2
Soon as someone figures out how to get ideas from Jobs from beyond the grave.


By Shig on 5/9/2014 5:05:49 PM , Rating: 3
The volume Apple has to sell prevents them from putting anything revolutionary into the device. Just getting a bigger screen was difficult due to the number of phones and markets they sell in.

Samsung is different because they own all their own Fabs. Apple is getting hit by the drawbacks of not investing into their own Fabs. I mean it's not like they couldn't afford it.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By michael2k on 5/9/2014 7:03:24 PM , Rating: 1
You do realize that they were in fact first with their virtual assistant, Siri, though they did buy it?
The same with capacitive multitouch, though again they bought it.
They also had in app billing in 2009, two years before Google Play had it.
They released their Retina display in 2010, while the Galaxy S was only 480x800, and because it was Pentile it was effectively even lower then that. This wasn't rectified until the GS3 in 2012

Clearly Apple isn't first in everything; they were late to 3G and LTE, to the large screen size, etc. They aren't behind in everything either, though.


By StevoLincolnite on 5/9/2014 8:44:31 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
You do realize that they were in fact first with their virtual assistant, Siri, though they did buy it?


Virtual Assistants long predate Siri, heck "Clippy" could be coined as the first popular virtual assistant, albeit extremely limited. (You could even have it speak if you had voice recognition software.)

quote:
The same with capacitive multitouch, though again they bought it.


Again, false.
Mitsubishi built a Capacitive-multitouch "surface"-esque PC back in 2001, Apple was the first with it in a mobile phone.

quote:
They also had in app billing in 2009, two years before Google Play had it.


In-App billing, actually occurred in MMO's in the PC space years before Apple brought it into it's devices.

quote:
They released their Retina display in 2010, while the Galaxy S was only 480x800, and because it was Pentile it was effectively even lower then that. This wasn't rectified until the GS3 in 2012


The PC had 1080P CRT monitors in 1995/1996, a few years after that, there were 4k workstation monitors, "Retina" is just a marketing term, today it's low-end in the mobile space.

What Apple did do successfully was created something average, charged it at a high price and people still somehow flocked to it in droves.


By retrospooty on 5/9/2014 8:55:01 PM , Rating: 2
The revisionist history among Apple fans is laughable. Can you imagine if Apple actually invented multi-touch? They would have sued the entire tech world. What Apple was was first to market with the slick multi-touch UI in 2007. In the past 7 years, not much else. Lets keep v it in perspective here.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Wazza1234 on 5/10/14, Rating: -1
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By themaster08 on 5/10/2014 8:09:08 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Does that dispute his point that Apple had it before Google? No? Then why write such drivel?
No it doesn't dispute that particular point, but the point was that this not something original from Apple. Furthermore, why does it matter? Point scoring?

quote:
You obviously have no clue what PPI means and can't accept that Apple started the whole high resolution race on smartphones.
They started it by coining a marketing term, and almost immediately fell further and further behind in the so-called "race". So what if they started it? Why does that matter either? Because without Apple's contribution to society we would still be using 100PPI displays on our phones? These points are completely.... Pointless.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By retrospooty on 5/10/2014 9:24:52 AM , Rating: 4
Exactly... Who gives a crap who did what first years ago. What matters is who is making the best products for your needs at the best price point today. Apple bought Siri years ago... Google now is immensely better. Apple was first with high res screens in phones... Now they are miles behind. Apple was first with a slick multitouch UI... Now they are years behind and the OS is just laughable compared to Android and WP and BB10 for that matter.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Solandri on 5/11/2014 2:33:20 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, I was using voice commands on Android for making calls, sending texts, composing emails, doing searches, and operating Maps navigation a half year before Siri came out. It couldn't do things like make appointments, but most of the functionality was already there. Google just never thought of anthropomorphizing it by having it talk back to you and giving it a snazzy name.

And I recall radio ads for a digital assistant called Wildfire in the 1990s. Ah, here we go. Note the date on the article.
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/17/technology/virtu...


By retrospooty on 5/11/2014 3:24:03 PM , Rating: 3
Yup... But ultimately, when you go to buy a phone what are you going to look at... Who made some features first many years ago, or who makes the feature set that closest matches what you want today? No question, you are going to go with what matches your needs and price point 1st...

Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, Moto, LG, Nokia, and many many other companies have all made contributions to the "whole package" of todays smartphones. It long past time we all STFU about who invented which feature. It's just tiresome and childish.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/12/2014 1:12:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Apple bought Siri years ago... Google now is immensely better.


Cannot stress this enough. I mean wow, I had no idea how behind Sir was until I started using an iPhone for work. It's useless! I have to pull out my personal phone and use Google Now for like everything.

*Asks Siri to call someone or find something*

Siri responds with some snarky BS about that not being in my address book

No sh*t you retarded "personal assistant". Why in the hell would I be asking you to find me something if it was in my address book already? It's called the INTERNET, try using it for a change.

Or my personal favorite, I'm trying to get the phone number to a place and it tries to navigate me to it automatically. Umm, did I ask you for navigation? No! I asked you a name of a place, in a desperate hope that you would pull up some worthwhile information.

Android is just SO much better at Internet integration. Which should be no surprise, given that Google is so much better at that than everyone else. But seriously, Siri is basically WORTHLESS outside of getting whether reports, whooptie do.

Also it's vocal recognition sucks ass. I have to repeat myself way more than I ever had to with Google Now.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Piiman on 5/10/2014 11:17:25 AM , Rating: 2
"
When you try to use Clippy as an example as a pre-existing technology related to Siri, you've already failed."

Why? I hear Clippy is better. lol


By Fleeb on 5/12/2014 5:35:23 PM , Rating: 2
That is not even the point, but following your argument, you cannot even use Siri as a "pre-existing" technology because right now, Google is better.


By CyCl0n3 on 5/13/2014 4:39:10 AM , Rating: 1
Dude even the Nokia E90 from 2007 had 800 x 352 pixels, 4.0 inches (~219 ppi pixel density).

Which came out before the iPhone (Europe) with only 480 × 320 Pixel, 163 ppi at this time:

Considering it took them 3 years to get to 960 × 640 (compared to 800 x 352) Pixels, and then praise it as something astonishing unreachable new is laughable.


By tonyswash on 5/11/2014 6:28:04 PM , Rating: 1
These long tedious discussions where people, often with an odd but striking tone of desperation, attempt to prove that Apple are not innovative via a forensic trawling through tech history are both pointless and utterly misconstrued. What seems to be happening is a confusion between various concepts, such as innovation, invention, creation, etc, all of which are actually very different (though often connected) things but which are bandied about as if they interchangeable.

This article about the curse of 'Innoveracy' (the systematic misunderstanding of innovation) is a pretty good clarification.

http://www.asymco.com/2014/04/16/innoveracy-misund...


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Reclaimer77 on 5/10/14, Rating: 0
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By Wazza1234 on 5/10/2014 7:50:39 AM , Rating: 1
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The Galaxy S was a 4" screen. It's a lot easier to get "Retina" PPI on a tiny screen like the iPhone. Just saying.


Pretty lame attempt to justify a really poor resolution.

And having a higher resolution in a smaller screen isn't 'a lot easier' anyway.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By Reclaimer77 on 5/10/2014 8:53:09 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Pretty lame attempt to justify a really poor resolution.


Yeah I'm really trying to "justify" stuff about an obsolete phone nobody uses.

So how do you guys justify the iPhone's super crappy resolution TODAY? And how's that working out for you?


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By danbob999 on 5/10/2014 4:47:51 PM , Rating: 2
You do realize that everybody had 800x480 (or 848x480) phones while Apple was still 480x320?
Apple only had the resolution lead for a short period with 960x640. They have been quickly outplaced with the release of 1280x720 phones and now 1920x1080.


By retrospooty on 5/10/2014 11:45:28 PM , Rating: 3
No he does not realize that. Apple trolls arent concered with facts, and they dont pay attention to any product that does things better than Apple. If you have 10 milestones and Apple was the first to hit one of those 10, that would be the single technical detail they know. it's beyond ridiculous listening to these inept jackasses.


By atechfan on 5/12/2014 8:53:20 AM , Rating: 2
But...but...but....RETINA!!


By BZDTemp on 5/9/2014 10:30:19 PM , Rating: 2
Why should they create something new when there is more profit in copying others and then selling to the iSheeps at silly price. Especially since they on the same time get away with patenting prior art and then using the patents for blackmail.

Boy do I hope Jobs is getting a good roasting down in Hell.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By KoolAidMan1 on 5/10/2014 8:04:26 PM , Rating: 1
Leading in software, hardware performance, and iOS/WP not being a laggy buggy POS is good enough for me. Throw in as many bulletpoints as you want, Android is still second rate for users and developers. They keep updating and a $100 WP device is still smoother than a $400 Android flagship. Apps are still way behind because development is a headache, the platform brings in under half the profit of iOS, and Dalvik is a pig.

OEMs do a few things first, almost always sloppily. I'll leave it to Apple and MS to deliver polished products.


By retrospooty on 5/10/2014 9:41:31 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder what its like in your world. Certainly different than this one.


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By kmmatney on 5/12/2014 12:31:27 PM , Rating: 2
After a year with an Android phone, I'm ready to go back to an iPhone. The only thing better about my Android phone is the larger screen. Besides that, my "high end" phone has several annoying bugs. Google play Apps are a pain - if I want something specific I have to try several Apps, because a high percentage of them suck. The Apps in the Google play store also seem to want to invade your privacy way more than Apple Apps. I've have never been able to get the bluetooth music player to work properly (this was always perfect with the iPhone). I could live with this phone if I had to, but luckily I don't. I did give Android a try...


RE: Alright...everyone sing along with me...
By KoolAidMan1 on 5/15/2014 7:47:48 PM , Rating: 2
I was on Android before going to WP and then iOS. I also have my hands on newer Android hardware running 4.3. Android still has lots of problems and rough edges. If people prefer that over stability and better apps then that's fine. That doesn't make it "perfect" like retro and reclaimer and the other fanatics here claim.


By retrospooty on 5/16/2014 2:15:18 PM , Rating: 2
"I was on Android before going to WP and then iOS. I also have my hands on newer Android hardware running 4.3. Android still has lots of problems and rough edges. If people prefer that over stability and better apps then that's fine. That doesn't make it "perfect" like retro and reclaimer and the other fanatics here claim."

I love how you just make stuff up... No one claimed it's perfect. All that was said is your impression of it was skewed and that there are some things you need to do to debloat OEM roms (especially Samsungs bloatius Maximus) so that it runs fast as hell... You are either ignoring all the times you have been told that or you are purposefully spreading misinformation about it. I am guessing the latter as you always disappear for a few weeks when it is pointed out... Then you come back a few weeks later as if you were never told... Either way, you are wrong.


By xti on 5/11/2014 10:54:41 AM , Rating: 2
can you name a groundbreaking feature that is left for anyone to release?


By Theodore KH on 5/11/2014 9:31:52 PM , Rating: 2
People often do not they what they want, until you show it to them


By NellyFromMA on 5/12/2014 9:20:10 AM , Rating: 2
IDK, aside from screen size, what is the iPhone sorely missing, besides gripes of a closed-market?

A 4.7 and 5.5 makes things interesting IMO. It's hard to argue the last useful tangible feature was physical screen size. Everything else feature-wise from any vendor is going to be pretty trivial after that and frankly screen size amongst the broader market of consumers is probably the last tangible feature most will ever realize.

Of Apple Google and MS, who is really innovating on the software side lately? I haven't seen a killer innovative and original feature in a very long time.


By tayb on 5/12/2014 9:52:44 AM , Rating: 1
Sigh...

Step 1: Read DT article that mentions Apple
Step 2: Wait for Android fanboys to unzip their pants
Step 3: Let the Android fanboys start circle jerking
Step 4: Move on to the next bit of news


By chripuck on 5/22/2014 12:48:01 PM , Rating: 2
Why do you care? Don't like it, don't buy it and move on with your life.


By Bigjee on 5/22/2014 10:36:53 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry that you feel that apple has let you down through every product theyve launched.

If you think Apple has done nothing ground breaking since the launch of the first iphones or ipods then I think you may never find anything groundbreaking at least from Apple.


PureView inventor
By Fleeb on 5/9/2014 4:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
Nokia is going to get sued.




RE: PureView inventor
By ritualm on 5/9/2014 5:01:48 PM , Rating: 2
They won't. Apple already lost to Nokia in court, and is currently paying the latter a royalty on every iDevice sold.

Nokia can possibly get the new hire punted through the non-compete clause, but that's all it can do.


RE: PureView inventor
By akosixiv on 5/9/2014 5:02:49 PM , Rating: 2
they can't, not since nokia became part of microsoft, which apple has cross licensing deals.


RE: PureView inventor
By sprockkets on 5/10/2014 11:57:57 AM , Rating: 2
Both you and the above poster are wrong. apple and nokia settled, neither "lost" in court because it never went to trial.

Microsoft owns the Nokia division for phones, but they did not get the patents. They merely have a license to them.

If Nokia has patents on it (which there isn't anything special to that sensor), they can assert it.


RE: PureView inventor
By ritualm on 5/10/2014 3:18:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Both you and the above poster are wrong. apple and nokia settled, neither "lost" in court because it never went to trial.

You're wrong. Just because the trial never transpired doesn't mean Apple didn't "lose". The very fact that Apple settled and signed a royalty agreement with Nokia means Apple made an admission of defeat - in simpler terms, it still lost to Nokia.


RE: PureView inventor
By sprockkets on 5/10/2014 10:14:18 PM , Rating: 2
When two companies agree to license, that's a win for each other. Apple didn't lose on court fees, penalties, etc, Nokia got what it thinks deserved, FRAND payments on stuff they made.

But since you don't know the terms of the agreement, and no one does, you can't say Nokia won or lost, depending on the previous and final terms dictated. So there.


Bottom
By mrwassman on 5/9/2014 4:21:58 PM , Rating: 2
The space around the home button seems like wasted real estate for a phone that size though I suppose it is a decent place to hold it. Looks OK otherwise.




RE: Bottom
By hpglow on 5/9/2014 5:03:06 PM , Rating: 2
I agree but I think Apple considers that part of their trademark look. It may also be a requirement for the type of fingerprint scanner they use. At this point using a rectangle or oval would make it look more like many Android phones. Apple better come out guns blazing with these next phones or I know many people that are going to switch this upgrade cycle. After the iphone 4 there has been 0 innovation just damage control.


RE: Bottom
By Belegost on 5/9/2014 5:25:01 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe they'll put some Beats speakers there.


RE: Bottom
By mrwassman on 5/11/2014 1:14:23 AM , Rating: 3
It makes sense. The Beats line of products is all about marketing. Last I checked, the beats headphones weren't so hot.


PureView Camera Inventor joins Apple
By HardwareDufus on 5/9/2014 4:54:07 PM , Rating: 2
This one surprised me.
Microsoft buys Nokia Devices and lets the inventor of the single most differentiating feature of the Nokia Phones go over to their competitor.

They paid Billions for Nokia Devices. They couldn't put together a renumeration package to keep the Former Head of the PureView Camera technology working for them?




By Granseth on 5/9/2014 5:07:36 PM , Rating: 2
I am also surprised by the one who is the supposed superior brand is the only one that doesn't sell software or components to the competition.


By retrospooty on 5/9/2014 5:07:39 PM , Rating: 1
its simple really. The hardware is just like software from a product philosophy standpoint.

Software:
MS and Google. We make software that everyone can use.
Apple. I make software for ME.

Hardware:
MS and Google. We make hardware that everyone can use.
Apple. I make hardware for ME.


By hpglow on 5/9/2014 5:13:18 PM , Rating: 2
Sometimes it isn't about money. You never know if there were some office polotics going around that he didn't want. Maybe he didn't want to work for MS.

I have never been paid what these guys get paid but I was a district manager for a company for 8 years. I quit when the owner told me he was putting his son in charge of me. The same person was caught skimming CC numbers of the corporate servers a year before. I told the owner his son was not qualified and is a theif and faxed in my two weeks. Sometimes it is just about cutting the crap.


PureView Lead
By chµck on 5/9/2014 7:44:39 PM , Rating: 2
I thought the lead PV Chief was Damien Dinning.




By BZDTemp on 5/9/2014 10:26:36 PM , Rating: 2
Although one could argue with the new ownership he is merely moving from dusk to darkness :-(




beats are garbage
By SPOOOK on 5/11/2014 1:08:40 PM , Rating: 2
beats sound very bad that were rated 17 out of 18 ,headphones at half the price sounded better I had a pair after 1 year the pads were worn out falling apart worst junk I ever had I contacted the company they never even reply
to me apple is outdated junk I remember buying a iPhone 4 that was 2 years outdated on Verizon they did not even update it for a Verizon release people were saying how come I was still using 2g when they had 3g for years




Apple Bring It On!
By Harry Wild on 5/11/2014 4:39:21 PM , Rating: 1
Got my charge card ready and will be waiting in line to be the first to get the iPhone 6 with top of the line features - 128GB storage, 4GB RAM, 2K screen resolution and new design case!




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