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Microsoft extends an olive branch to XP users

Earlier this week, we learned of a new zero-day flaw that affects Windows and Internet Explorer. According to Microsoft, the flaw could allow attackers to:
  • view data
  • change data (memory injection)
  • delete data
  • install keylogging software
  • install malicious programs
  • create accounts to give attacker full user rights 
Seeing as how Microsoft officially ended support for end-users of Windows XP on April 8, it was assumed that all of those users would just be out of luck or have to rely on third-party patches to close up the security hole. However, Microsoft made a bold move today by announcing that it would extend the fix to XP users.
Adrienne Hall, Microsoft’s General Manager for Trustworthy Computing, wrote the following on the Official Microsoft Blog:
Even though Windows XP is no longer supported by Microsoft and is past the time we normally provide security updates, we’ve decided to provide an update for all versions of Windows XP (including embedded), today.  We made this exception based on the proximity to the end of support for Windows XP.
As a result, all Windows users (as of 1 PM EST today) can download a patch for this flaw from Windows Update.

Adrienne Hall, Microsoft’s General Manager for Trustworthy Computing 

However, don’t think for a second that Microsoft is content with users sticking around with a 14-year-old operating system. The company is still, understandably, trying to encourage customers to upgrade to a more modern Microsoft operating system like Windows 7 or Windows 8.1.
“Just because this update is out now doesn’t mean you should stop thinking about getting off Windows XP,” Hall added. “Of course we’re proud that so many people loved Windows XP, but the reality is that the threats we face today from a security standpoint have really outpaced the ability to protect those customers using an operating system that dates back over a decade.”
So XP users, take this as a warning. Microsoft was kind enough to make an exception this time around with regards to a zero-day exploit it Windows XP, but don’t expect the software giant to be so eager to help out in the future.

Source: Microsoft

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RE: Pry it
By Belegost on 5/1/2014 2:54:45 PM , Rating: 5
Who is holding anyone hostage? Is Mazda holding you hostage because your car is outside the 5 year warranty?

There's a reasonable limit on how long a company can be expected to support a product. 13 years of support seems like a pretty good run, better than you will get from competing OSes. Why people have to act like ending support is some evil plot I have no idea - it's just reasonable business. I don't see similar wailing when Apple stops supporting old OSX versions, or Red Hat stops supporting old RHEL LTS versions.

And there are good reasons to upgrade to Win7, better support for newer hardware, a more stable driver model, better account controls for improved security, etc.

If you in particular don't need them, fine. As for staying with XP, please don't let me stop your search for someone who cares, use whatever you want.

RE: Pry it
By Argon18 on 5/1/14, Rating: -1
RE: Pry it
By themaster08 on 5/1/2014 3:50:42 PM , Rating: 3
The analogy is flawed. Software is hardly comparable to any tangible object.

Compare XP's support lifecycle to RHEL's, and it's comparable. The main difference is that after 10 years, the last 3 years of RHEL support is limited, and an ELS add-on can be purchased to continue support of versions 3 and 4. Similarly, enterprise customers have paid for continuing support of XP.

Do you expect these companies to continue to support these products forever? The main difference is that a tangible object, especially if mechanical, will eventually break, and original parts will no longer become available. Sure, you can purchase 3rd party or pre-owned parts, similarly to how you can use 3rd party applications and security to continue to run your ancient software, but eventually it becomes more of a burden than a convenience. For example, using XP without the internet is absolutely fine, but it's a huge inconvenience. Similarly, a 50 year old vehicle can be restored, but you'll find its main use is for motor shows, special occasions. Using it as a main driver will no doubt run into problems.

How is a company expected to make money if their product has reached saturation? The logic of some people here is astounding.

RE: Pry it
By Dorkyman on 5/1/14, Rating: -1
RE: Pry it
By inighthawki on 5/1/2014 9:17:30 PM , Rating: 5
But instead MS has booked sweetheart deals with hardware vendors so that when you buy a new PC it WILL come with a version MS says you will have, even if you would have preferred the version you had been using.

Buy a PC and install whatever OS you want on it. Some OEMs have in the past offered older OSs or will actually ship a PC without an OS at all. If it's that big of an issue, build your own, because if you care that much about having an older version of the OS, you're also a tech savvy minority who would anyway. No other vendor in the world does what you're asking.

If you buy a new MAC, guess what, you get the latest version of OSX. If you buy a new phone, you get the latest version of iOS, Android, WP, etc. Buy a new tablet, same deal. Nobody buys an Android tablet and then decides "You know what, I'd rather have Gingerbread than Kit Kat."

The Feds should have broken up this MS monopoly long ago.

I don't think you know what monopoly means.

In fact, it makes a lot of sense to buy an old restored car for daily use. It just keeps going up in value.

I don't know a lot about cars, so maybe someone else could comment, but wouldn't putting additional mileage and use on a remodeled 50 year old car make it deprecate in value? Why would I pay a premium for a remodeled classic that someone has been driving around for everyday use?

RE: Pry it
By Alexvrb on 5/1/2014 11:48:25 PM , Rating: 3
I don't know a lot about cars, so maybe someone else could comment, but wouldn't putting additional mileage and use on a remodeled 50 year old car make it deprecate in value? Why would I pay a premium for a remodeled classic that someone has been driving around for everyday use?

It only makes sense to do something like this if money is no object, and even then it is debatable. They often require more regular maintenance over years of heavy driving, racking up miles devalues it, the daily wear and tear gradually ruins it (and further increases the amount/rate of maintenance and repairs), fuel costs are typically significantly higher, less amenities, less reliable (more likely to suffer mechanical breakdown), if something fails parts may not be readily available, and it isn't as safe as an equivalent modern car (no airbags, ABS, traction, ESC, inferior suspension, etc).

With that being said, I'd still love to own certain classic cars and drive them on weekends around town. But not as a commuter car, and I probably wouldn't have them fully restored to 100% like-new condition. Just "close enough to drive". Now, if you were talking about a full restomod, that's a completely different story. But those aren't truly valuable restored classics, since they're not original in many areas. Modern engine, trans, amenities, suspension, brakes, etc. Nicer to drive, but not worth as much.

RE: Pry it
By inighthawki on 5/2/2014 12:10:07 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the input :)

RE: Pry it
By ie5x on 5/2/2014 4:09:53 AM , Rating: 2
In my country, because of anti-pollution norms, running any vehicle older than 20 years is illegal and would attract heavy fine.

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