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China is looking at home grown patch solutions now

For many people in the corporate world, there is no real reason or need to upgrade from the 14-year-old Windows XP to a more modern version like Windows 7 or Windows 8. Some cite costs as a reason for not upgrading, while others point to the fact that their “mature” integrated systems simply don’t need anything new or fancy to operate properly.
 
One of the largest organizations that has no desire to move away from Windows XP is the Chinese government. China instead plans to patch XP on its own rather than upgrade to Windows 8, because upgrading would be too expensive (Windows 8 sells for 888 yuan in China, or roughly $142).

Just a little bit of Windows XP nostalgia... 

Chinese firms have reportedly released special protection patches to shore up XP’s defenses and the Chinese government says that it is now assessing those patches for its own use.
 
Estimates peg the number of Chinese computers using XP at nearly 70% compared to 18% in the U.S. As of early April, 25% of all PCs on the market were still running Windows XP.
 
Despite the reluctance for many to leave XP behind, Microsoft finally ended official support for Windows XP earlier this month. So many people weren't keen to move from XP in the business world that Microsoft offered to extend support for some companies for a hefty price. 

Source: Sky



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RE: Not for anyone
By Dr of crap on 4/23/2014 12:44:16 PM , Rating: 2
Yet again missing the first point - a vast majority of user don't NEED what is on your list.

Grandpa and grandma looking at grandsons and granddaughters pictures on the facebook, or doing some email and checking for air fares DON'T need anything other than what XP offers - period.

Yes we ALL know that there are some that need to move on to Win7. And some have a need to move on for what XP does not have.

Lets try a number then - let's say 80% of PC users do not NEED anymore than what XP offers, IF security was NOT an issue. If all you do is facebook, email, vacation planning, recipes, ect XP is fine.

Please don't post WHY YOU need to move on we all get it, some need to.


RE: Not for anyone
By Griffinhart on 4/23/2014 4:18:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Lets try a number then - let's say 80% of PC users do not NEED anymore than what XP offers, IF security was NOT an issue. If all you do is facebook, email, vacation planning, recipes, ect XP is fine


See, this is where the "vast majority" argument kind of breaks down for me.

I agree that the vast majority only use their computers for certain activities like you list, and even that those same users may not care about DX11, SSD, or USB 3 etc...

On the other hand, those are the same vast majority of users that randomly click on links sent to them, don't really watch their malware status, etc... People are citing points for the "vast majority" while making the assumption that they manage their system reasonably well. Anyone with Non-Tech friends and families that has been called time and time again to "fix" their computers knows exactly what I am talking about. These are the same people that never run windows update, let their "trial AV software" expire and let it sit for years...

It's for this reason alone, in my book, that the vast majority should move away from XP.

It just becomes more apparent to me when those same users buy off the shelf hardware (camera's, printers, etc) and software that may no longer run on XP. Photoshop (full) and Lightroom do not support XP, and Even Photoshop Elements has a more limited range of camera files it can support on XP.

If you only surf, email, etc and Keep up to date with patches, Malware updates, have reasonable security settings on your machine, don't run everything as admin then XP is probably perfectly fine. This person, however, IS NOT one of the "Vast majority" of windows users.


RE: Not for anyone
By retrospooty on 4/23/2014 4:24:16 PM , Rating: 2
"those are the same vast majority of users that randomly click on links sent to them, don't really watch their malware status, etc... People are citing points for the "vast majority" while making the assumption that they manage their system reasonably well. Anyone with Non-Tech friends and families that has been called time and time again to "fix" their computers knows exactly what I am talking about."

Yup... The "vast majority" of people aren't diligent enough to keep themselves from being infected, espectially in a post patch XP era. It was bad enough when getting the updates from MS. Now it isn't, so newly discovered exploits will spread much faster than before.


RE: Not for anyone
By Motoman on 4/23/2014 5:46:32 PM , Rating: 2
...and the same stupid people are blowing up their Win7 and Win8 machines.

You can't fix PEBKAC. The statement is, and has been, "if you keep current on patches and antivirus/antimalware, you're fine."

Otherwise, a stupid user can blow up anything.


RE: Not for anyone
By Griffinhart on 4/23/2014 6:02:02 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, they are the same type of person, but at least the out of the box settings of 7 and 8 are far more safe than the default settings of XP, especially an out of life XP. So, no you can't fix PEBKAC but you can mitigate it. XP is just encouraging problems.


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