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China is looking at home grown patch solutions now

For many people in the corporate world, there is no real reason or need to upgrade from the 14-year-old Windows XP to a more modern version like Windows 7 or Windows 8. Some cite costs as a reason for not upgrading, while others point to the fact that their “mature” integrated systems simply don’t need anything new or fancy to operate properly.
One of the largest organizations that has no desire to move away from Windows XP is the Chinese government. China instead plans to patch XP on its own rather than upgrade to Windows 8, because upgrading would be too expensive (Windows 8 sells for 888 yuan in China, or roughly $142).

Just a little bit of Windows XP nostalgia... 

Chinese firms have reportedly released special protection patches to shore up XP’s defenses and the Chinese government says that it is now assessing those patches for its own use.
Estimates peg the number of Chinese computers using XP at nearly 70% compared to 18% in the U.S. As of early April, 25% of all PCs on the market were still running Windows XP.
Despite the reluctance for many to leave XP behind, Microsoft finally ended official support for Windows XP earlier this month. So many people weren't keen to move from XP in the business world that Microsoft offered to extend support for some companies for a hefty price. 

Source: Sky

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RE: Not for anyone
By SAN-Man on 4/23/2014 10:10:34 AM , Rating: 2
There's no "real" reason for *anyone* to move from XP to 7 or 8. Other than the fact that Microsoft has now EOLd it, making staying there simply insecure.

There was a reason for me, and I moved to Vista 64 as soon as I could (July Beta 2006). Resource management/availability was the primary reason. I'm a systems engineer and the productivity and management applications I use daily are not XP friendly, they are Vista 64 or better. These days I couldn't use XP if I wanted to - even the 64 bit variant.

RE: Not for anyone
By sorry dog on 4/23/2014 10:34:14 AM , Rating: 3
Well if anybody is in a position to fix security holes, it's the Chinese gov't. They probably hired many of the hackers who found the hacks to begin with.

I do wonder how they plan to fix the driver support problem. More than any other reason, lack of driver support for new hardware would force me to switch to something newer.

RE: Not for anyone
By therealnickdanger on 4/23/14, Rating: 0
RE: Not for anyone
By Motoman on 4/23/2014 11:50:06 AM , Rating: 1
And you're a member of a tiny minority. I made it eminently clear that I was talking about the vast majority of users who have no such need or interests as you do.

RE: Not for anyone
By deathwombat on 4/23/2014 12:27:15 PM , Rating: 3
Years ago I bought a computer with 4 GB of RAM, of which I could use 3.5 GB. My first graphics card upgrade reduced that to 3 GB. Maybe I didn't need all 4 GB, but wanting access to everything I paid for is a valid reason to upgrade to a 64-bit OS. If you're really going to take the "want vs. need" argument the whole way, most people don't need more than Windows 98. Just use an older browser, an older copy of Office, and you can still Facebook and email to your heart's content. If, like most people, you want to use somewhat recent software and hardware, you have plenty of reasons to want to upgrade your OS, and that's reason enough to upgrade if you can afford to.

RE: Not for anyone
By Motoman on 4/23/14, Rating: -1
RE: Not for anyone
By Motoman on 4/23/2014 12:32:15 PM , Rating: 2
Bah. "tiny minority" rather.

RE: Not for anyone
By BSMonitor on 4/23/2014 1:25:02 PM , Rating: 4
Web Browser? Careful with that. Try Adobe Flash on Windows XP or Windows with only 2GB of RAM.

Your impression of what a user needs is quite a bit dated.

Add to that some of the more colorful aspects of Microsoft Word, from the 3D objects being added, graphs, etc.. etc..

4GB is a minimum, unless you dumb down your web experience.

RE: Not for anyone
By Motoman on 4/23/14, Rating: 0
RE: Not for anyone
By Dorkyman on 4/23/2014 4:05:39 PM , Rating: 2
I suggest you install a ram-monitor utility such as RAMpage so you can see just how much ram is actually needed to run stuff. I think you'll find that a browser running flash takes up 200MB. Maybe.

RE: Not for anyone
By Solandri on 4/24/2014 5:39:09 AM , Rating: 2
I run multiple copies of Windows 7 in virtual machines (my way of isolating my financial and government data from my general web browsing).

For most purposes, Win 7 actually runs just fine with 2 GB of RAM. Pared down (unnecessary services turned off), it boots up with only about 700 MB used. I could run my hi-sec financial VM just fine in 1.5 GB. This includes Chrome which has Flash built in. I just leave it at 2 GB because that's what VMWare recommended and I have plenty of physical RAM to spare.

Windows XP actually runs fine in 256 MB. Just last week I prepped some of the old XP boxes I had for donation to Mexico. I bumped them up to 512 MB (actually redistributed RAM between the 256 MB and 1 GB systems), and installed Avast antivirus and Chrome, and they're as happy as a clam. Boot up and they're at about 150 MB used (half of that being the antivirus). The biggest bottleneck is actually the HDD. I'd forgotten how slow those old 33 MHz IDE drives were (about 25 MB/s). The one newer system with SATA ports is much more responsive.

RE: Not for anyone
By NellyFromMA on 4/24/2014 1:48:02 PM , Rating: 2
Chrome is so memory hungry, though (as is IE). You must need to keep web browsing down to a couple of sessions at best I would imagine with only 1.5 or 2GB of ram total.

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