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Google says that Gmail users consented to scanning and practice is part of the normal delivery process

Google has updated its Terms of Service (TOS) to fully disclose to users that their incoming and outgoing emails are automatically analyzed using software. The software is analyzing the emails to create targeted ads that can be served to the user.
 
Google's TOS reveal that emails are scanned when they are stored on Google services and when in transit.
 
Google is currently fighting in court on allegations of violating the privacy of hundreds of millions of users. Courts in the U.S. decided last month not to combine several suits into a class action against Google.


Some Gmail users believe that Google is violating state and federal laws with its email scanning practices. Google continues to argue that users of Gmail consented to the activity and that it is part of the normal email delivery process.
 
The update terms of service spell this out more specifically. The new update reads:
 
Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection. This analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, and when it is stored.
 
Google spokesman Matt Kallman said Google's changes, "will give people even greater clarity and are based on feedback we've received over the last few months."

Sources: Reuters, Google



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RE: Fail
By nafhan on 4/15/2014 2:18:54 PM , Rating: 2
So... other than not having some ads displayed alongside your email, what does this actually get you?


RE: Fail
By Motoman on 4/15/2014 5:46:36 PM , Rating: 2
It actually gets you not having Google et al using you as their product. Which is the point.


RE: Fail
By nafhan on 4/15/2014 6:13:21 PM , Rating: 2
You're not leaving me convinced that you actually have any legit reasons. It seems like if you're going to get away from Google, you'd want to get away from Google and away from similar companies and services - not get away just to start using a similar service.


RE: Fail
By Motoman on 4/15/2014 7:52:41 PM , Rating: 2
Um...what?

There are alternatives to using Gmail that won't data mine you. You can use non-Google search engines, and/or run in private mode - and especially, don't have a Google/Yahoo/whatever account and be logged in while searching. Don't have to use FB at all. Or Twitter. Or Pinterest. Or...whatever.

It's not hard to avoid being a service to the big corporations. You just have to not do it. Pretty much that easy.


RE: Fail
By nafhan on 4/16/2014 9:36:45 AM , Rating: 2
So, avoiding data mining and collection of your own information is your reason. In the post before that you said avoiding Google was your reason.

Still, if you're using free services, you're getting "data mined". It's just going to be (allegedly) less personally identifiable. In fact, it may or may not be. That will end up depending on which services you use and how they communicate and share information with each other.

I'm not 100% certain that small corporations = trustworthy...


RE: Fail
By Motoman on 4/16/2014 11:34:16 AM , Rating: 2
You should revisit your ESL courses. I did not say "avoiding Google" was my reason. I said "Google et al" - which, if you were literate, you'd be aware means "Google and all others like them."

There are lots of services out there that publicly state in their terms that they *do not* mine your data. Which is 180 degrees separated from Google, which promises you that they *do* mine your data. And if, in fact, one of those other companies does wind up mining your data, you can take legal action against them because they would have been violating the terms of their contract with you.

As opposed to Google et al - who are telling you up front that they're using you as their product, and when you're too stupid to realize that means you shouldn't be their product, you have no legal recourse against them - because you abdicated those rights by agreeing to their terms when you became their product.

Smarts. You should try to get some.


RE: Fail
By nafhan on 4/17/2014 11:36:57 AM , Rating: 2
Trying to insult someone by claiming that they are illiterate and can't speak English on a text only, English, communication medium. That comes across as kind of pathetic, honestly.

Back to the actual discussion, you'll happily pick a random third party based out of India (Zoho), and trust them with your email because they promise not to engage in data mining, and you can sue them or something.

On one hand, I'm curious how you plan to go about making sure the company you randomly select off the internet doesn't mine your data. On the other hand, I'm I wondering how much experience you have with the Indian legal system. From what I hear they tend to bend over backwards for a-hole Americans trying to get money out of them due to IP law issues.


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