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Just how desperate is Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) to get customers to relinquish their death grip on its nearly decade-and-a-half old operating system, Windows XP?  It's now offering customers $100 USD to get rid of their old Windows XP PC -- although some restrictions do apply.
The caveat is that you have to trade in your computer at a Microsoft Store, and you have to buy a new Windows 8.1 machine that costs $599 USD or more (limiting the maximum discount is roughly 16 percent).
The good news is that most of the laptops and desktops at Microsoft stores are relatively new, so it's unlikely that, Inc. (AMZN), Newegg, and other online retailers will be able to offer a better deal, on average.
Microsoft has previously offered a $50 USD gift card for those who traded in XP machines.  By contrast the new deal is simply a direct discount, redeemable instantly off your purchase.

Windows 8.1 discount

The initiative won't likely do Microsoft any great favors financially, given that it already was rumored to have cut Windows 8.1 licensing fees on low cost machines from $50 USD to $15 USD (which would indicate an $85 USD loss on the current deal, if accurate).  But the deal isn't quite that bad for Microsoft as it creates goodwill with its OEM allies who are grumbling about the impact of poor Windows 8.x sales on their bottom line.  Plus Windows 8 comes with the Windows Store, and Microsoft gets a cut of app revenue
Windows 8.1 has been met with tepid casual consumer and enthusiast response, outside of tablet devices, which seem to perform quite well with the new Metro user interface.  Microsoft has promised for a second time to repair Windows 8 for non-touch devices with the Windows 8.1 Update 1 and future follow-ups later this year.
Windows XP computers are still found in vast quantities in many parts of the world.  While they're now in the minority in the U.S., Microsoft's figures suggest that when the April termination of support for the platform rolls around 65 percent of users in China -- the world's most populous nation -- will still be using Windows XP.  Unfortunately there's not enough $100 USD discounts to solve that dilemma.

Source: Microsoft Store

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Why not just...
By Zak on 3/21/2014 3:31:14 PM , Rating: 2
Why not just give away Windows 8 for free? It's not exactly like 8 is a freaking bestseller, but for free a lot of people might go for it.

RE: Why not just...
By SteelRing on 3/21/2014 3:44:49 PM , Rating: 5
You couldn't pay me enough to make me use Win8

RE: Why not just...
By DT_Reader on 3/21/2014 3:47:54 PM , Rating: 2
Besides, many if not most XP machines won't run Vista, let alone 8.

RE: Why not just...
By StevoLincolnite on 3/22/2014 6:53:27 AM , Rating: 5
Windows 8 is actually lighter than Windows 7 which was in turn lighter than Windows Vista.

I have an Intel Atom 330 ITX machine still kicking around, it crumpled, whined and churned whilst complaining until the cows came home under Windows Vista.

But under Windows 8? It's actually a fairly snappy machine.
On an Atom N470 Netbook, Windows 8 actually gave me a good 15+ minuets of extra battery life.

The other bonus is, it boots fast, even on antiquated 5400rpm mechanical storage.

The downside is Metro. :(
But I can live with 3rd party tools to remove that and enjoy the added benefits the OS brings.

RE: Why not just...
By AssBall on 3/22/2014 10:40:47 AM , Rating: 2
I'd be happy to trade 2 Windows XP licenses for another or a cheaper 8.1 license, but I am certainly not going to buy a 600$ machine. This marketing effort just seems odd to me.

RE: Why not just...
By Mitch101 on 3/22/2014 11:15:06 AM , Rating: 4
I loaded up Windows 8.1 a couple weeks ago. The boot times are surprisingly better than Windows 7 even on SSD. Just a few seconds but noticeable.

The complaints I had about Windows 8 are gone.

On the taskbar you can set it to drop you back to desktop instead of the start menu which was my biggest complaint about Windows 8.

The Start Screen is no longer annoying.

Every application installed doesn't automatically get added to the start screen there is a down arrow that takes you to all your stuff from there I pin items I need to the taskbar and possible use items to the start screen. Icons can be small and Im not close to filling up my start screen. Think of it as a desktop full of icons and tiles. The good is its not filled with junk like uninstallers and help files and those programs that you want the one icon but they added 7 for variations you'll never use or want. It really does cut down on the clutter. I rarely use start however I look at the start screen as I don't have to go to start -- all programs -- find what Im looking for because they put it under the vendor name not the application name. I just go to start now and its like having a desktop full of icons of just the apps Im looking for or think of it as the start menu fully expanded for you making it easy to find what your looking for. I think its really good and Im not sure Ill ever fill it up enough to have to scroll to the right ever again. With Windows 8 start got cluttered with junk way too easily and the icons were too big. Windows 8 start was fat with 8.1 its on a diet and it works.

File Copy is a very overlooked item its quite nice to be able to pause.

Mount ISO's or burn them is built in. I thought mount ISO was in 7 but seems its not. Must have had an app loaded in 7 when I did that.

I also uninstalled all the default apps I don't want or need like the e-mail app since I installed office anyhow. This prevented any annoying things like when I clicked on an e-mail link of it taking me to the default app when I had office installed. Duh Microsoft.

I do see the use in metro on the desktop now as I use triple screens. I can leave the start screen up on my right screen which is kind of like having news feeds running with tidbits of information. (Weather, X-Box feed, Latest news from two sources) I will be looking for an RSS feeder though.

The only complaint I can imagine people still having is they want the old start menu that's it but the new start menu is not bad at all in 8.1.

RE: Why not just...
By Reclaimer77 on 3/22/14, Rating: -1
RE: Why not just...
By Mitch101 on 3/22/2014 2:56:22 PM , Rating: 3
I didn't think the start issue everyone was complaining about was that big of a deal because there are free options to get the classic start back. Just like if your not a fan of IE you can load up firefox or chrome.

Ill give you props the complaints were heard although for those who loved XP and 7 I see no reason why Microsoft just cant offer a classic mode to those who want it instead of trying to force people into metro. Would have saved a lot of grief. They should take a page from Linux where I can choose the interface of Gnome or KDE. Microsoft should do the same for those who don't want Metro.

BTW Right click on the Start Button for things like shutdown, control panel, networking, event viewer that's so cool.

RE: Why not just...
By KOOLTIME on 3/22/2014 2:36:48 PM , Rating: 3
False Article description,

They are not giving you 100 cash, its a discount credit to a new purchase.

If giving away no strings attached, everyone would go hit up the junk yards, i know of one near buy has few thousand old broken PC's they will get rid of for free. Toss em in a truck drive to store, collect few thousand bucks, for drive load effort.

Its a strings attached purchase discount, have to buy a new computer of 600 or more to even be considered for it.

Its a sales tactic nothing more.

RE: Why not just...
By Arkive on 3/24/2014 12:18:35 PM , Rating: 1

Ugh, don't be so literal. It's called marketing. They're offering $100 to upgrade to a new PC that replaces your old one. There's technically no inaccuracy in the title, and they didn't say "cash" as you suggest either.

RE: Why not just...
By sprockkets on 3/24/2014 4:36:10 PM , Rating: 2
Windows 8 is actually lighter than Windows 7 which was in turn lighter than Windows Vista.

It litteraly took a new laptop I worked on six and a half hours to update a win8 machine to 8.1. In contrast, it took only 5 minutes to update a Nexus tablet from 4.3 to 4.4.

"Light" is a relative term. In this case win8 lost a few hundred pounds and now weights 29560 instead of 29660.

RE: Why not just...
By StevoLincolnite on 3/26/2014 1:16:41 AM , Rating: 2
Took me about 5-10 minuets to upgrade from windows 7 to windows 8 on my tablet.
But that was directly off a USB 3.0 flash drive.

RE: Why not just...
By Zaranthos on 3/21/2014 5:54:06 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I'd pay more just to avoid Windows 8.1 with its Fischer Price buttons and ribbon bars. When did abandoning the English language for cave drawings and Egyptian hieroglyphics become more productive?

RE: Why not just...
By HostileEffect on 3/21/2014 9:24:01 PM , Rating: 2
I only reinstalled windows 8.1 on someones laptop because HP wants to be tards and not support their products with windows 7 drivers.


RE: Why not just...
By hpglow on 3/22/2014 2:08:50 AM , Rating: 4
All my PCs have win 7 x64 or Linux (servers). With exception of the surface pro 2. Anyway, I think if I was paid to use it I would. I might give it a test run on one of my desktops if it were free. But if I were being handed money to use win 8 I think I could figure out how to install Start8 or one of the other over ride hacks out there. You guys are just being a bunch of whinny vaginas just because it is hip to beat on win 8 right now.

RE: Why not just...
By AssBall on 3/22/14, Rating: -1
RE: Why not just...
By Reclaimer77 on 3/22/14, Rating: -1
RE: Why not just...
By DocScience on 3/22/2014 8:14:11 PM , Rating: 1

would that do it?

RE: Why not just...
By BZDTemp on 3/22/2014 12:57:10 PM , Rating: 2
Considering the state of PC sales the Win8 is actually doing pretty well so I doubt Microsoft is that desperate. Besides since most people don't upgrade anything on their computers be it software or hardware, except what they are force feed in the way of updates then giving Win8 away won't really do much difference.

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