Report: NSA Still Spying on German Officials
February 24, 2014 1:19 PM
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German newspaper Bild am Sonntag said that the NSA is currently spying on about 320 politicians and business leaders in Germany
U.S. President Barack Obama stopped the National Security Agency's (NSA)
spying on Chancellor Angela Merkel
, but a German newspaper claims that the NSA is still keeping a close watch on top German government officials.
, German newspaper
Bild am Sonntag
said that the NSA is currently spying on about 320 politicians and business leaders in Germany, including Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere, a close confidant of Merkel.
Bild am Sonntag
said its information came from a high-ranking NSA employee in Germany, who chose to remain anonymous.
"We have had the order not to miss out on any information now that we are no longer able to monitor the chancellor's communication directly," said the NSA employee, according to
Bild am Sonntag
Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Obama [SOURCE: Truth Frequency Radio]
Berlin has been looking to make a "no-spy" deal with Washington, and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier is due to visit the U.S. on Thursday for that purpose.
In October 2013, German magazine
reported that the U.S. had tapped Chancellor Merkel phone for years, and spied on 34 other world leaders as well. This led one German politician to call for a complete halt on trade negotiations between the European Union and the U.S.
But Obama attempted to calm the situation in January when he ordered the NSA to stop spying on the leaders of U.S.-allied nations.
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RE: And In Other News...
2/27/2014 8:56:37 AM
Do you have any sources for this kind of slander? Or do you just assume that other people must think and act like Americans because that's some kind of absolute reference?
In Germany, the concept of spying on officials of allied nations was considered so unthinkable that last year, directly after the initial Snowden leaks, dozens of high-ranking politicians and BND-employees happily stepped in front of cameras and declared "No worries, the NSA would never spy on a German citizen without BND supervision". They all had to admit they have been astonishingly and completely wrong in the end of last year, when it became very clear that the NSA had been committing criminal espionage within Germany on a large scale.
RE: And In Other News...
2/28/2014 2:41:02 AM
Did you note how they carefully worded their response? They didn't say anything about Germany spying on others, only about whether or not the NSA is spying on German citizens with their permission. Once again, if you think your government is not spying, a) you are naive in the extreme, or b) you're so poor you can't afford it. Germany is rich, so that leaves out option b...
I can even tell you who, from each nation, is doing the actual spying... you think all those people in those embassies and consulates are just diplomatic, economic, and military cooperation representatives? Have you ever been in an embassy? I have, I've lived in, oh, 4 different nations now, and have personal knowledge of these activities that every.single.nation does. Besides the actual spies, everyone in those embassies conducts regular assessments of stability, plans, activities of their host nation, and passes those on to their diplomatic headquarters. Vast majority of these reports are routine, who is in what position or what internal politics might affect the national level, etc. Some are more specifically targeted to who is ambitious, who is being groomed for higher positions, what capabilities does each military unit have, level of competency, etc.
I lived with bugs planted in my house for years from my host nation (one of the poorest on Earth at the time). Our household servants had to report to the local police and give detailed reports of our activities every week. C'mon, wake up and smell the coffee...
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