Report: NSA Still Spying on German Officials
February 24, 2014 1:19 PM
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German newspaper Bild am Sonntag said that the NSA is currently spying on about 320 politicians and business leaders in Germany
U.S. President Barack Obama stopped the National Security Agency's (NSA)
spying on Chancellor Angela Merkel
, but a German newspaper claims that the NSA is still keeping a close watch on top German government officials.
, German newspaper
Bild am Sonntag
said that the NSA is currently spying on about 320 politicians and business leaders in Germany, including Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere, a close confidant of Merkel.
Bild am Sonntag
said its information came from a high-ranking NSA employee in Germany, who chose to remain anonymous.
"We have had the order not to miss out on any information now that we are no longer able to monitor the chancellor's communication directly," said the NSA employee, according to
Bild am Sonntag
Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Obama [SOURCE: Truth Frequency Radio]
Berlin has been looking to make a "no-spy" deal with Washington, and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier is due to visit the U.S. on Thursday for that purpose.
In October 2013, German magazine
reported that the U.S. had tapped Chancellor Merkel phone for years, and spied on 34 other world leaders as well. This led one German politician to call for a complete halt on trade negotiations between the European Union and the U.S.
But Obama attempted to calm the situation in January when he ordered the NSA to stop spying on the leaders of U.S.-allied nations.
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RE: Entitled Much?
2/25/2014 10:06:37 AM
Actually, there is a lot of truth in what you say.
I don't know what the terms were that Germany had to agree to when they surrendered at the end of World War 2, but it wouldn't surprise me if America, Britain, and Russia demanded the right to prevent an elected leader from taking office, and to remove them if they weren't happy with them, in the terms of the surrender. Also, they could well have put the right to eavesdrop on the leaders correspondence into the surrender document as well. Of course, the sands of time shift, and so those rights will have changed, but there could easily be some residual from those rights, so until we know what the current rights are we don't actually know whether spying on Merkel was something every post war Germany leader would have known about, or should have known about. It could well be this isn't anything new.
RE: Entitled Much?
2/26/2014 2:10:45 PM
1) Surrender was unconditional. Germany ended in 1945, and was only re-established in 1949, in between the lands were in fact ruled by the allied powers (US, UK, France and Russia).
2) All meaning of the contract of surrender of 1945 lost relevance with the signing of the peace contract in 1990.
Since then, Germany is again a fully sovereign nation and the German ground law is now the highest legal reference in Germany. Any contract that is in contradiction with the ground law is entirely null and void.
3) Observation without a warrant is illegal. It was legal from 1968 to 2013 for the German intelligence agency, and it was also legal for the German agency to transfer information gained in this way to agencies of allied nations, e.g. the NSA. It was never legal for those Agencies to start their own observations without a dedicated agreement with the German agency.
But: There is no truth in what "coburn_c" says whatsoever. He most certainly did not take his "eyes of of Germany" in 1923. And to compare modern Germany with the Weimar Republic is absolutely ridiculous. You might as well suspect Obama to plan another genocide of native Americans or Pope Francis to whip up a new Cruisade.
It also makes no sense to compare the modern US with those of the early to mid 20th century. There is a huge difference between the initiators of the united nations and the architects of the Marshall plan on the one hand, and the current reigning class who's concept of developmental politics is restricted to "We need to kill all the evil people" on the other hand.
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