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Google Glass ticket tossed due to lack of evidence

At times new technology not only creates a rush of similar products, but it can cause issues for the early adopters. Just look at the confusion among some businesses and even local authorities having to do with the Google Glass wearable computing device. One restaurant in Seattle has already banned people from wearing Google Glass devices inside and makes no apologies for doing so.
 
A woman in California was issued a traffic citation while driving and wearing her Google glass device back in October. The woman was initially pulled over for speeding and was then issued a ticket for using a “visual monitor” in her car while driving.
 
The highway patrol officer said that wearing Google Glass was a violation of state law, but the woman vowed to fight that ticket and took it to court. A San Diego court commissioner dismissed the ticker this Thursday after it was found that the officer had no proof that the device was operating at the time she was pulled over.

 
"There is no testimony it was operating or in use while Ms. Abadie was driving," the commission stated during the hearing.
 
Another reason for the dismissal is that an expert didn’t appear to testify that the device had been calibrated.
 
The officer who issued the ticket for speeding and for wearing Google Glass noted that he initially wasn’t going to cite the driver for wearing the glasses, however, he noted, "She got a little argumentative about whether or not it was legal for her to wear them."

Source: Reuters



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By amanojaku on 1/17/2014 10:01:36 AM , Rating: 5
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The officer who issued the ticket for speeding and for wearing Google Glass noted that he initially wasn’t going to cite the driver for wearing the glasses, however, he noted, "She got a little argumentative about whether or not it was legal for her to wear them."
Translation: "She pissed me off, so I decided to abuse my authority."




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By Spuke on 1/17/2014 10:18:54 AM , Rating: 1
No, they have to write up every violation. If they let you off it's because they're being nice. You could actually report them for letting you off but who's dumb enough to do that.


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By kleinma on 1/17/2014 10:36:14 AM , Rating: 1
How is it an abuse of power when the only reason it was overturned was because of lack of proof it was operating at the time? If there was video from it at the time of the stop, then should would have been found in violation of the state law.

Have you seen what people look like using google glass? They almost have to go cross eyed to view the screen. That would certainly be a distraction to driving if you were using it at the same time.

http://www.ilyke.net/uploads/2013/03/23/sub/24158-...


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By nafhan on 1/17/2014 12:28:28 PM , Rating: 5
Let's generalize this a little bit:
"I have no idea if you're doing something wrong or not, but I'm still going to send you to court for the day and/or ticket you for several hundred dollars."

That sound's like either abuse of power or bad training. On the other hand, this woman apparently had a bad attitude, and that's something that almost guarantees a ticket.


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By Reclaimer77 on 1/17/2014 10:49:37 AM , Rating: 1
It really gives you some insight into the thinking pprocess behind our outrageously over funded and unconstitutional police state when you read comments like this.

Rights are an illusion in these peoples minds. She only got off on a technicality, and that's sad.


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By wookie1 on 1/17/2014 2:15:34 PM , Rating: 2
Lack of any evidence is only a technicality?!


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By lexluthermiester on 1/17/2014 4:12:01 PM , Rating: 2
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She only got off on a technicality, and that's sad.


Ok, RIGHT HERE is where your intelligence comes into serious question.

Evidence is a required part of ALL criminal cases[or at least it's suppose to be]. Dismissing a case for lack of evidence was not only the correct thing to do, but is required by law in all 50 states.

It would seem you indeed have the maturity AND intelligence of a fifth grader.


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By Reclaimer77 on 1/17/14, Rating: 0
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By lexluthermiester on 1/19/2014 7:34:19 PM , Rating: 2
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You're taking me out of context. I was speaking through the eyes of the officer, perhaps I should have made that more clear.


This is another example of your choice of words being less than correct for the situation. Your sarcasm was not readily apparent.

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And you bring up MY intelligence? How was this a "criminal case"? It's a traffic violation, not even a major one!


Traffic violations are a part of the criminal code in ALL 50 states. That's how they can fine, jail and even imprison someone. DUI's are a felony, speeding is a misdemeanor and so on and so forth. You were saying what now?

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How many people do you think get tickets in this country every year, are actually innocent of the supposed violation, and end up paying the fine anyway? The system is slanted against us, and they know it, because they rigged it that way. Proving your innocence ends up costing you MORE than the ticket is, so most people don't even bother.


And people call me a little paranoid! While it is true the some low-lifes abuse and corrupt the justice system, it is not designed for abuse. And if you had taken[or perhaps stayed awake during] a criminal justice class you would know this. The justice system is designed to be fair. The imperfect human beings running it are why it is so flawed.

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Good thing maturity and intelligence can be faked. Your reading comprehension just plain sucks, good luck with that.


Oh yes, you must be right. How silly of me to take known fact seriously instead of listening to your almighty wisdom. Shame on me....


RE: Translation
By ritualm on 1/17/2014 4:33:04 PM , Rating: 1
Umm, she got off because cops couldn't prove Glass contributed to her driving over the speed limit. It wasn't a technicality, it was simply that cops had zero proof she was using it while driving.

You can't fine someone for distracted driving with a cellphone, just because they have a cellphone in their pockets. Likewise, you can't add a charge for using Glass to an existing traffic violation just because the person is wearing Glass at the time. How can you tell they're using it?

The cop abused his authority here, and the ticket deserved to be thrown out. There is nothing more to discuss.


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By Reclaimer77 on 1/17/2014 4:50:42 PM , Rating: 1
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The cop abused his authority here, and the ticket deserved to be thrown out. There is nothing more to discuss.


And I'm 100% in agreement with that here. Wtf! Can you people not read??

Hell if I had my way, you could use Google Glass even while driving. Screw the nanny state.


RE: Translation
By lexluthermiester on 1/19/2014 7:56:28 PM , Rating: 1
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Hell if I had my way, you could use Google Glass even while driving. Screw the nanny state.


Is this another example of your brand of sarcasm? Yes, let's all use Google Glass while we drive. Let's make texting while driving legal too while we're at it. Right?

Your notion is flawed in oh so many ways. Did you know that texting while driving is more dangerous than driving drunk? Here's why and it's very simple; Drunk drivers, while impaired, have their eyes ON THE ROAD. But when you are texting, Google Glassing or endeavoring in other such distractions your eyes are on that distraction instead of where they need to be, on the road.

Yes, screw the nanny state for trying to help keep us safe from moron drivers paying more attention to their phones and technology and less on the road in front of them.

Remember how we were talking about maturity elsewhere? Kinda shining brightly for everyone to see here aren't you....


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By Reclaimer77 on 1/20/14, Rating: 0
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By mgilbert on 1/17/2014 12:47:44 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly!!! Traffic cops are almost always arrogant pricks with god complexes. The only reason they take the job is because they have anger and hatred issues, huge chips on their shoulders, and tiny pricks in their pants. Most need taking down a few notches.


RE: Translation
By ven1ger on 1/17/2014 1:44:35 PM , Rating: 3
It is really sad when people react as you do and label a group based upon a small incident. It creates and sets up such ignorance that many others fall prey to and sometimes echo.

Probably everyone here has some person they are related to or friends with in law enforcement. All law enforcement officers are just regular people, and there are bad officers but the majority are really decent people that are just doing their jobs and trying to enforce the law, and many times are handicapped because of the rules. I've known very good cops and I've known some cops who I'd have called friends but ended up in Federal lockup because of a scandal involving abusing of prisoners, which I don't condone.

Learn to understand what these cops have to do and put up with on a daily basis and you'll understand why many of them change, sometimes for the worst.


RE: Translation
By Reclaimer77 on 1/17/2014 4:32:27 PM , Rating: 2
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It is really sad when people react as you do and label a group based upon a small incident. It creates and sets up such ignorance that many others fall prey to and sometimes echo.


Sorry, statistics validate most of what he's saying.

Law enforcement officers are also, statistically, major spousal abusers. Domestic violence is two to FOUR times more likely in homes of law enforcement officers.

If this was a man he pulled over, I doubt he would have gotten a ticket for daring to stand up for his rights. But a woman, oh well, we can't have that.

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Learn to understand what these cops have to do and put up with on a daily basis and you'll understand why many of them change, sometimes for the worst.


That doesn't mean we have to condone it or respect it.

There is a growing police state mentality in this nation. And I'm not going to sit here and play it down because some of these guys have a tough job, boo freaking hoo.


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