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Mustang could get diesel power in the future

Ford unveiled the new 2015 Mustang earlier this month and with the unveiling of the new car also came a new engine. The 2015 Mustang will get the fuel-efficient EcoBoost 4-cylinder engine that will generate roughly 305 hp and around 305 lb-ft of torque. It will be the first 4-cylinder turbo Mustang since the SVO version in the Fox body generation of the Pony car.
 
Ford has yet to offer official mileage estimates for the EcoBoost engine in the 2015 Mustang, but it is expected to be one of the most fuel efficient engines in its class.

 
However, EcoBoost isn't the only green tech that Ford is considering for the Mustang. Ford has said that it is considering a future for the Mustang that could see diesel power, hybrid, or fully-electric versions of the car. Many high-end supercars – like the Ferrari LaFerrari, McLaren P1, and Porsche 918 Spyder -- are utilizing hybrid systems for fuel efficiency and improved performance.
 
The new Lexus RC coupe will also be available in a hybrid version.

 
Traditionally, the Mustang wasn’t a car purchased for its fuel efficiency. The 2015 Mustang is designed from the ground up to be a world car and options such as diesel engine would make the care more appealing
 
Ford Global powertrain boss Bob Fascetti said, "We’re not looking at diesel at the moment, but given where we need to go with fuel consumption we are looking at all our options, and diesel is one of those options, along with hybrids and electric."

 
 
The future for the Mustang will likely see new transmissions as well. Ford and GM are currently working on a joint project to develop new nine and ten-speed automatic transmissions to improve fuel economy. 

Source: Go Auto



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Diggin the new Stang!
By Spuke on 12/9/2013 10:46:56 AM , Rating: 2
This car is making me reconsider buying only used. Granted, I need to see if this really ends up being quicker than the Boss 302 before I make my decision but this will get serious consideration. How about a hybrid V8 a la Porsche 918? Probably won't happen but that would be pretty cool (and expensive no doubt).




RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Lord 666 on 12/9/2013 10:59:04 AM , Rating: 2
Would you bite if the diesel version is real-world quicker than the Boss 302?


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By daboom06 on 12/9/2013 11:14:49 AM , Rating: 2
yea. a diesel feels quicker because of low-end torque. going 45-80 might be less mind blowing, but i start from a stop more often than merging onto freeways.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Spuke on 12/9/2013 12:28:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Would you bite if the diesel version is real-world quicker than the Boss 302?
No I wouldn't (cause it wouldn't be). For a Mustang, it's either V8 gas or get a different car as far as I'm concerned. A stated before, I would accept a V8 hybrid. The 2.3L turbo doesn't bother me either but I wouldn't buy it unless it was a track God.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Lord 666 on 12/9/2013 1:28:04 PM , Rating: 2
Personally, I think manufacturers are missing solid opportunities with performance oriented diesels while still improving fuel economy.

The pending Mazda 6 with the HO diesel will leave the current crop of VW TDIs in the dust along with other sedan gassers. Have to admit I am looking forward to the 2015/2016 diesel Wrangler, especially since it is expected to outperform the gasser.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Spuke on 12/9/2013 2:25:52 PM , Rating: 2
What's your definition of outperform?


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Flunk on 12/9/2013 2:39:28 PM , Rating: 2
Better 0-60 Time!


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Spuke on 12/9/2013 3:17:37 PM , Rating: 2
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Better 0-60 Time!
Well, I was asking Lord because he brought it up. I'll say this, unless the diesel Mustang has the same 400 hp as the gas car AND weighs the same or less, it WILL be slower no matter how much torque it has. Compare the VW Jetta TDI's to the turbo gas car. The turbo gas car is quicker because it has more power (and it's probably lighter too) even though the TDI has more torque. Big torque/low hp is typically indicative of a narrower powerband/less area under the curve. Less area under the curve equals a slower car even if all else is equal.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Flunk on 12/9/2013 4:01:23 PM , Rating: 2
The diesel will not have the same horspower as the V8, it will match the V6 if you're lucky. They'll probably use a 2.0L or 2.2L. I don't think they're doing for performance, but to offer better fuel economy, particularly in Europe.

P.S. My response was more of a joke than anything. But I am serious that 0-60 is a much more important metric than horsepower or torque.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Spuke on 12/10/2013 12:25:32 AM , Rating: 2
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The diesel will not have the same horspower as the V8, it will match the V6 if you're lucky.
I'm thinking this also. I usually use the 1/4 mile for acceleration because 0-60 can be misleading somewhat. AWD cars can have stunning 0-60's but be slower in the 1/4 than a higher hp car with the same 0-60.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Lord 666 on 12/9/2013 3:13:51 PM , Rating: 2
With respect to the Jeep, better low-end torque and off-road capability in a potentially smaller/lighter package the size of a 4 cylinder versus a 6. Throw in better fuel economy and its a win-win for everyone. The only open question is how much of a premium will it cost, but assuming enhanced durability and resale value, the difference is estimated to be a wash.

I've shared my opinion, even before owning a 2013 Passat TDI, that the VW 2.0 TDI is slightly underpowered. The Mazda 6 will quickly prove that to be the case. Possibly why the 2014 Passat has a "Sport" model earmarked... would assume tighter suspension and more power until the new motor is imported.



RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Spuke on 12/9/2013 3:19:11 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the reply. It seems we agree.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Jeffk464 on 12/9/2013 3:45:22 PM , Rating: 2
Trucks in general are perfect for diesels, I'm guessing the new mid sized 4cyl turbo diesel chevy pickups are going to be real winners.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By Spuke on 12/10/2013 12:15:57 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Trucks in general are perfect for diesels, I'm guessing the new mid sized 4cyl turbo diesel chevy pickups are going to be real winners.
I'd buy one if I could get 8 bales of hay in the bed AND if the wheelbase was long enough where I wouldn't need weight distribution bars for my horse trailer (don't need them now).


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By JediJeb on 12/9/2013 4:05:37 PM , Rating: 2
I remember the 85-86 2.3L SVO, that was an awesome car for its time. Two people I knew had them in high school, and to be honest they would keep up with any V8 from that era(though that isn't saying much).

It was at that time compared to the Shelby GT350 which used the 289HiPo engine, and the article stated that they were close competitors, but mostly on handling, though power was not so far away either.


RE: Diggin the new Stang!
By inperfectdarkness on 12/10/2013 3:00:14 AM , Rating: 2
The only thing that would make me consider buying a mustang new is if Ford finally pulled the trigger--pissed off the die-hards--and offered a 3.7L ecoboost V6 with 400+hp stock. The purists insist that the GT be a V8 and more powerful, so that will never happen. I still can dream though. I could probably massage a 3.7L turbo to kick out 500hp on pure 93 octane...and that would be just awesome.


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