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Pricing and availability are unknown

Dell has tipped some of the details on a new 24” UHD computer monitor called the UP2414Q.
 
Dell says that the UP2414Q features the highest pixel density of any of its available displays at 185 ppi. The native resolution of the IPS display is 3840 x 2160 and it offers viewing angles of 178-degrees horizontally and vertically. The contrast ratio is listed as 1000:1 typical and 2M:1 dynamic. Brightness for the panel is 350 cd/m2 and the panel has a 8ms response time.

 
The display supports 99% Adobe RGB color gamut and 100% sRGB.
 
Unfortunately, important details like pricing and availability haven’t been announced at this time.

Sources: Mac Rumors, Dell



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How Much is enough?
By km9v on 12/2/2013 11:22:33 AM , Rating: 1
How much more resolution do we really need? We barely have enough bandwidth to stream 1080p never mind above that. Blu Ray movies are already 25 - 40 Gb in size. How much bigger would an equivalent 4K res movie be? Can your eyes really notice the difference?




RE: How Much is enough?
By inighthawki on 12/2/2013 11:32:37 AM , Rating: 2
Barely enough bandwidth? Modern connections are already capable of doing 4K @60Hz (Same as 1080p @240Hz).

And yes, the difference is like night and day, especially with such a large display.


RE: How Much is enough?
By retrospooty on 12/2/2013 11:58:17 AM , Rating: 3
It's not just about movies and games. Res = Res. I would love to have it just to have Windows apps, Office and Excel at higher res. You can see more and do more and do while scrolling less + better image quality all the way around. Games and video will take a while to catch up, but eventually they will.


RE: How Much is enough?
By haukionkannel on 12/2/2013 2:02:18 PM , Rating: 2
Higher res allso makes the text much sharper, so easier to read. This old man with poor eyes really wellcome the 4K to the desktop and laptops too!
8K where are you... I am still waiting! It would put desktop in par with mobile devices...


RE: How Much is enough?
By retrospooty on 12/2/2013 2:04:50 PM , Rating: 2
I am just glad we are at least over the 1366x768 crap we have been fed for years. Ugh, I hate using anything that low, even if its a small screen, its just not enough room to maneuver.


RE: How Much is enough?
By Jeffk464 on 12/2/2013 2:57:00 PM , Rating: 2
Over, thats my laptop spec. :(
I think 1080p looks pretty darn good on 15" and under displays though.


RE: How Much is enough?
By euler007 on 12/2/2013 3:08:40 PM , Rating: 2
It's because of people like you that we can have nice things.


RE: How Much is enough?
By ritualm on 12/2/2013 8:47:18 PM , Rating: 2
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How much more resolution do we really need?

The funny thing is we'll have this exact conversation again when 8K (which, by the way, is FOUR times the 4K's resolution) starts going mainstream.

You're perfectly fine with your mediocre 1366x768 displays at 17". Meanwhile, to me, 1080p at anything over 11" is wholly unacceptable.
quote:
Blu Ray movies are already 25 - 40 Gb in size.

I don't care. Storage space is cheap.
quote:
Can your eyes really notice the difference?

Yes, I can.

Just for reference, the R5000-series teaser:
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Carrell estimates that the human eye can directly resolve around 7 million pixels, almost twice the resolution of a 30" display. But that's just what it's directly focusing on, all of the peripherial vision brings the total up to around 100 million pixels...

Carrell believes that in seven years we can have the first generation Holodeck up and running. For those of you who aren't familiar with the Trek reference, Carrell believes it'll take seven years to be able to deliver a 180 degree hemispherical display (you're not completely surrounded by displays but at least your forward and peripheral vision is)...


RE: How Much is enough?
By TakinYourPoints on 12/3/2013 1:22:23 AM , Rating: 3
This is for media professionals first and foremost. Shooting in 4K and downsampling to 2K is becoming prevalent, and actually editing and finishing in 4K will gain steam over the next few years. This is a huge reason why you're seeing a Mac Pro that supports three 4K displays, why you're seeing a proliferation of DisplayPort in video cards, etc etc.

This will trickle down to the consumer over time, just like high price IPS monitors did. Until then it will be a high end niche product.

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Can your eyes really notice the difference?


It will as screens increase in size. 65" at a normal viewing distance of arond 8" pushes 1080p. 4K becomes useful if you want to go to larger sizes such as 80"+.

Just today I checked out some 4K displays. Cool but impractical at 50", awesome at 80"+.

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Blu Ray movies are already 25 - 40 Gb in size. How much bigger would an equivalent 4K res movie be?


Codecs improve over time. MPEG-2 used for DVD in the 90s was incredibly inefficient. I had to encode with it for years and it was a massive PITA. An equally sized h.264 file used for Blu Ray or online can be HD with much better color depth, no macro blocking, fewer compression artifacts, etc etc.

MPEG-2 at h.264 high image quality would give you file sizes that would be too big to even fit on Blu Ray media. The h.264 files I upload to Vimeo now are magnitudes better in every possible way than the same exact same clip I encoded in MPEG-2 for DVD, all while being much smaller files.

Now we're running against the same limitations of h.264 as we go past 1080p, which brings us to h.265.

h.265 is already here. It will give us increased resolution without compromising color depth or file size: http://www.eoshd.com/content/11534/new-h-265-codec...

This is a natural progression in codecs. Just as we moved from mp3 to AAC and MPEG-2 to h.264, now we're onto h.265.

Increased computational power + codec efficiency = awesome :)


RE: How Much is enough?
By retrospooty on 12/3/2013 9:20:01 AM , Rating: 2
"Just today I checked out some 4K displays. Cool but impractical at 50", awesome at 80"+."

What 4k displays at 80+ inches are you referring to? What Plasma? ;)


RE: How Much is enough?
By TakinYourPoints on 12/3/2013 3:30:11 PM , Rating: 2
Haha, no plasmas sadly, but oh well, things move on.

Sony's 4K was excellent, Samsung's was trash. No real middle ground in image quality there, but then again the selection is limited. My dealer and I are crossing fingers for giant 4K OLED sets in three years or so, we'll see!


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