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Shortages expected for iPad mini with retina display

If you've been counting the days until you can get your hands on the new Apple iPad mini with Retina display, the tablet has officially launched. The iPad mini with the Retina Display brings the same resolution from the 9.7-inch iPad (2048x1536) to a smaller 7.9-inch device.
We already know all the hardware features of the iPad mini with Retina display. The tablet will use an Apple A7 processor featuring a 64-bit desktop-class architecture. All versions of the tablet will feature integrated Wi-Fi with versions offering LTE 4G connectivity available for $130 extra.
“The response to iPad Air has been incredible, and we’re excited for customers to experience the new iPad mini with Retina display,” said Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. “We think customers will love both of these thin, light, powerful new iPads, and we’re working hard to get as many as we can in the hands of our customers.”

iPad mini with Retina Display
With Apple's comment that it is "working hard" to get the new iPad mini into the hands of customers, you can bet there will be a shortage of this tablet early on. The basic Wi-Fi version of the iPad mini with Retina display and 16 GB of storage will sell for $399, a 32 GB version sells for $499, and a 64 GB version sells for $599. People needing even more storage can get a 128 GB version for $699.
Versions of the iPad mini with Retina display featuring integrated LTE connectivity start at $529 for 16 GB of storage and go up to $829 for 128 GB of storage. With the new iPad mini with Retina display now available, the original iPad mini can be purchased for $299 with 16 GB of storage.

Sources: Apple, Apple Store

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RE: I love the hardware...
By greenchinesepuck on 11/13/2013 1:49:47 AM , Rating: 2
retro, get yourself an evga tegra note, I ordered one myself at newegg this morning, immediately after its announcement (my old galaxy note 1 is so slooow in PvZ 2 I can't play damn thing at all). surprise fact: tegra note actually owns iPad Air framerate wise in modern mobile games like Dead Trigger 2, all because it has top notch quad core A15 with latest nvidia 72-core mobile GPU mated to low res 1280x800 screen, this combination makes it actually produce HIGHER frame rate in high end 3D scenes in games, compared to iPad Air or Mini. yes it is hard to believe but when anand calls this tablet overkill for games and says there are NO modern 3D games for tablets that can make this tablet stutter or lose frames, when all this megapower costs just $199, I think this is total nobrainer. also numerous benches put it on par with Apple's latest A7 in many benchmarks, sometimes it's even faster than A7, hard to believe but check reviews yourself man.

all in all seems like an iPad level megapower in a small case for less than half a price of an iPad. NO. BRAINER. man

ah yeah, by the way, it is TWICE AS FAST as Apple A7, but only when you load all its four A15 cores ;) 'cause Apple is still stuck in dual core era you know hehehe

RE: I love the hardware...
By TakinYourPoints on 11/13/2013 2:18:43 AM , Rating: 2
I was intrigued so I checked benchmarks on Tom's and Anand.

The Tegra Note benches slower in raw and off-screen GPU and CPU tests than an iPhone 5S, which in turn benches slower than an iPad Air. The Tegra Note's low res screen obviously helps a lot though. In the end you're getting close performance on a much lower resolution screen, but that's obviously one of the trades in price.

Tablet game library is another thing since this is Android we're talking about. Its a tough call with the high quality of the iPad's existing library, and its an even tougher call with Hearthstone and FTL coming out in the next few weeks with Android ports at least another year away, if ever. There are way too many good tablet games missing in its library, unless you like running emulators on a touchscreen (gotta use that with a gamepad, ofc).

It is very affordable though. $200 is an awesome price. I wonder what its display quality is like, they had to have cut corners somewhere. Slashgear noted low quality with the LCD, as did Anandtech, but I'd like to see it for myself. The Tegra Shield has a great display for something that's only around $300, but then again it is much smaller. All the reviews note cheap build quality too, but that has to be a given with its price.

The 2013 Nexus 7 still seems like a higher quality product for only $30 more, but I'd still like to see it for myself.

RE: I love the hardware...
By greenchinesepuck on 11/13/2013 2:47:53 AM , Rating: 2
Hearthstone and FTL are kind of visually simple games, like 2D diagrams, cards, stuff like that, I'm not very interested in such games even though these are good, quality ones. However, nVidia has tight relationship with some major mobile studios like Madfinger, who do some excellent 3D shooters optimized for Tegra 4, Dead Trigger 2 for example is my favorite. The moment I saw its demo on ultra high graphics quality (only enabled on Tegra 4 of course) I knew that very moment which tablet I gonna get next. I was considering iPad Mini or even iPad Air because the library of big budget quality games there is the best among tablets but Dead Trigger 2 stunning visuals multiplied by the no less stunning low price sealed my fate hehe :P Bye for now iPad, maybe next time... although I'm not sure, looks like nVidia knows how to lure gamers by selling simple and cheap tablets stuffed with fastest mobile ships they can make, it's old PC days all over again man! I was always a heavy user of fastest Athlon 64 or Core 2 Quad chips in most basic enclosures I could find, because all I needed was fastest CPU/GPU possible for the least amount of money. Now with Tegra tablets I'm back to these glorious days of my youth, and I LOVE IT! So don't see iPad fitting my character just yet, they are too much into fashion design, and I'll never pay Apple tax just for their fashionable logo, after all their cases are top notch bit it's only the bare bone PERFORMANCE I'm seeking in tablets, not fancy designer cases. Hence Tegra tablets are perfect for me. Maybe even too perfect ;)

RE: I love the hardware...
By TakinYourPoints on 11/13/2013 3:57:57 AM , Rating: 2
The best mobile (and even PC!) games don't necessarily need insane 3D visuals.

I think this is more the case with mobile touch games. Something like Infinity Blade 3 on iOS looks better than anything on a tablet or phone, but man is the gameplay dull. Same with most other tablet shooters, etc. They make for cool tech demos but that's pretty much it IMHO since the gameplay isn't that well suited to touchscreen control.

I have no problem recommending strategy, tactics, and board games on things like the iPad though. You get uncompromised gameplay in those genres, and in some cases its even better than its PC counterparts.

Frozen Synapse is a perfect example of this, it seemed designed for touch even when it first came out. FTL coming out on iPad makes me super happy since it was one of the best PC games I played in 2012, and like Frozen Synapse it seems made for touch.

A game that bridges both gameplay and visuals is XCom Enemy Unknown for iPad. It is a faithful port of the PC version and it works great:

It seems unfair to ding the iPad for being a "fashion accessory" when it has the best developer support and such good hardware under the hood. App libraries matter, which is why I game on Windows instead of Linux and the Playstation instead of the XBox.

The iPad does cost more than other options though, double that of the NVIDIA tablet, so that's clearly a big factor. I think the 2013 Nexus 7 is good (certainly much better than the Kindle Fire) and based on my positive experience with the NVIDIA Shield (really cool!) I hope their Note is good as well.

RE: I love the hardware...
By TakinYourPoints on 11/13/2013 4:03:45 AM , Rating: 2
By the way, Frozen Synapse got ported from iOS to Android very recently (yay!) and is currently in beta. It is GREAT, you should get your hands on it.

Cross-platform multiplayer across all desktop and mobile operating systems, amazing soundtrack, deep "one more turn" gameplay, its the best.

Also get the Steam version while you're at it. :)

RE: I love the hardware...
By retrospooty on 11/15/2013 5:40:56 AM , Rating: 1
I just checked out most of the games you have mentioned and I have figured something out that actually explains alot... Your threshold for what is a "great game" is way WAY WAY too low. You like some of the lamest most boring shit I have seen in years. Good god dood, get a filter. No wonder you have no clue about apps and games, you have no taste period.

RE: I love the hardware...
By retrospooty on 11/13/2013 7:15:16 AM , Rating: 2
"retro, get yourself an evga tegra note"

No, way too low res and Tegra 4 is a battery hog. Mostly the res is a problem for me.

RE: I love the hardware...
By greenchinesepuck on 11/14/2013 12:23:55 AM , Rating: 2
low res brings outlandish framerates tho, on nexus 7 you'll get 10 frames per second where I'll get 30 on my tegra note :P

RE: I love the hardware...
By retrospooty on 11/15/2013 5:43:12 AM , Rating: 1
If I were interested in tablet gaming I might, but I am not. When I game, its PC or PS. Tablets just... lack. The touch screen isn't good for any game that I like. There are some good time wasters and some "good, for a tablet/phone" games, but nothing I would do when I am really in a gaming mood.

RE: I love the hardware...
By Kiffberet on 11/14/2013 7:29:18 AM , Rating: 2
Do people actually play 3D games on these tiny screens?

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