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McCain wants Alexander to be held accountable for NSA leaks

Senator John McCain shared some strong opinions about the recent U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) leaks, saying that Keith Alexander should resign (or be fired) and that Edward Snowden certainly shared NSA secrets with the Russians. 

In an interview with German newspaper Der Spiegel, McCain (R-AZ) said that Keith Alexander, director of the NSA, should absolutely take responsibility for the leaks by leaving his position. 

"Of course, he should resign, or be fired," said McCain. "We no longer hold anybody accountable in Washington."

McCain also placed blame on President Barack Obama, the NSA and the congressional intelligence committee for the NSA leaks. 

McCain also had a lot to say about former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who worked as a computer systems administrator for the NSA and used employee login credentials to access and download classified documents. He then leaked them to the media earlier this year. 


"And now we have a contractor employee, not a government employee, who has access to information which is, when revealed, most damaging to the standing prestige of the United States and our relations with some of our best friends," said McCain. "Why did Edward Snowden have that information? And what are we doing as far as screening people who have access to this information? It's outrageous, and someone ought to be held accountable."

McCain further believes that Snowden has certainly shared NSA secrets with the Russians during his asylum in Russia. 

"[Russian president Vladimir] Putin will grant him asylum indefinitely," said McCain. "The Russians know if they send him back that's a lesson to other people who might defect. I'm sure that Mr Snowden has told them everything that he possibly knows.

"If you believe that Mr Snowden didn't give the Russians information that he has, then you believe pigs fly."

Just last week, it was revealed that Snowden conned between 20 to 25 NSA employees to give him their login credentials and passwords while working at the NSA regional operations center for a month in Hawaii last spring. Snowden reportedly told the NSA employees that he needed their passwords in order to do his job.

Source: The Guardian



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He said during the 2008 campaign
By hiscross on 11/11/2013 1:42:09 PM , Rating: 1
that Barry is a wonderful person.




RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 1:50:47 PM , Rating: 5
??? Your grasp of politics is as flimsy as your grasp of evolution... Yes, everything is always Obama's fault even though Alexander was Director of the National Security Agency since 2005. This is all BS that started with the passing of the patriot act. Obama hasn't done anything except let things get worse under his watch. He "Changed" nothing... Did nothing, fixes nothing, is nothing. He isn't a cause, or a solution, he is pretty much just another politician.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2013 1:59:25 PM , Rating: 4
But he campaigned on a platform of NOT doing this. So your knee jerk instinct to defend him is falling flat.

Everything happening under his Administration IS his fault. He's the President! Not just another politician.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 2:08:17 PM , Rating: 2
Don't get me wrong, he is a POS just like the rest of them, but this started before he got there.

I know you guys are more concerned with blaming the one side than fixing anything though.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 5:39:33 PM , Rating: 4
Aw, man... I have admitted I blew it. I voted for him in 2008 and it was a mistake. I have said that many times... And I am not absolving him of anything. I think he sucks, one of the worst presidents ever... But this wasn't his baby. Made it worse? sure, but not his baby.

It's kind of like blaming Brezhnev for the spread of communism. OK, you could do that, but it wasn't his baby, he didn't start it and blaming him for it is pointless without addressing the entire lot.

Again my point to you is always the same, you stand one one side of the fence slinging mud and blaming everything on the other side while the people running your side are stabbing you in the back. They are all the same "heinous anus".


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2013 5:51:09 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry I just got super pissed when someone who voted for this jackass is pointing his fingers at me. You're still my buddy :P


By superstition on 11/11/2013 6:32:30 PM , Rating: 2
That's the ad hominem fallacy.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 6:42:48 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... It's all good and I wasnt meaning to point any fingers... My only point here at all was that (even though I think Obama has done a crap job and is one of the worst ever) I dont think that all of this NSA nonsense is specifically his doing, he is just continuing it.

I cant even count how many negative things I have said about Obama in this thread, but still, its not enough for you... You need to hate him even more! LOL... I dont think I have it in me to hate anyone as much as you hate Obama, but we do totally agree he sucks at least. LOL


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2013 6:51:44 PM , Rating: 2
/shrug

I hate all Leftists Liberals. They should all die, and the world WOULD be a better place.

I would say throw them all on an island together, but the UK is already taken *rimshot*!


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By superstition on 11/11/2013 7:49:01 PM , Rating: 2
Then you're talking about eliminating most Americans because we are a nation dominated by liberal economics and leftist socialism masquerading under a false libertarianism.

Put simply: we are a plutocracy where the 1% has a vastly disproportionate share of the financial wealth and political power.

Of course, most Americans have no idea about a lot of these things. They think the USA is vastly more equitable than it is and they want it to be vastly more equitable than it is.

Harvard Study: Americans Vastly Underestimate Wealth Inequality, Support 'More Equal Distribution Of Wealth'

quote:
Americans vastly underestimate the degree of wealth inequality in America, and we believe that the distribution should be far more equitable than it actually is, according to a new study. Even demographic groups not usually associated with wealth redistribution such as Republicans -- desired a more equal distribution of wealth than the status quo.

Americans thought the richest 20 percent of our society controlled about 59 percent of the wealth, while the real number is closer to 84 percent. They also believed the top 20 percent should own only 32 percent of the wealth.

Without knowing which country they were picking, 92 percent of respondents said they'd rather live in a country with Sweden's wealth distribution.

Stalin and Hitler would welcome you to the group if you were able to eliminate so many leftist liberals.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By croc on 11/12/2013 12:16:02 AM , Rating: 2
"I hate all Leftists Liberals. They should all die, and the world WOULD be a better place."

"Bla bla bla blaaaa - sorry were you talking to me?

Seriously I would prefer you just not talk to me, you always say the same crap and it was crazy then, it's crazy now. "

Says it all about the infamous Reclaimer...


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By KCjoker on 11/11/2013 6:24:31 PM , Rating: 3
Yea, Dems never threw blame at the other side.lol It was Obama's entire campaign against McCain equating him as another Bush. McCain would've been terrible but still leaps and bounds better than Obama.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By superstition on 11/11/2013 6:35:41 PM , Rating: 2
There is no other side.

As Taibbi documented, the same 1% donors bankrolled both candidates -- with only minor differences.

They won't pay to get someone in who will actually be a populist.

Since the presidency is determined by who accumulates the most 1% money, there is only one side.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/iowa -the-meaningless-sideshow-begins-20120103


By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 6:44:32 PM , Rating: 3
"There is no other side. As Taibbi documented, the same 1% donors bankrolled both candidates -- with only minor differences"

That's what I am talking about... The show in DC is all about "divide and conquer" via distraction. The "proper coffers" get fed no matter who wins.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By bitmover461 on 11/11/2013 2:16:09 PM , Rating: 3
So if you campaign to reduce the deficit and double it ... and if you campaign for transparency in government and it becomes more secretive and intrusive ... and if you campaign on health care reforms only affecting 5% of the population and it becomes 70% ... then, let me get this straight, it's not your fault, you didn't "change" anything, it's just politics? This is one of the stupidest posts I've read on this website.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 2:56:12 PM , Rating: 4
LOL... You guys are hilarious. I post an overwhelming negative on Obama post and it's just not negative enough for you.

No, he didn't change a damn thing. Politics as usual. Lying sack o crap? Check, spending money like no tomorrow? Check, goes against pretty much everything he campaigned for? Check.
Yup, looks exactly like a typical politician.

Obama continued and in many cases (as in economics and this NSA nonsense) made worse the very "wrongheaded" (his own words) policies he blasted Bush for. I cant stand him, but he didnt start this, just continued it.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By superstition on 11/11/2013 5:51:23 PM , Rating: 4
They say you should talk about politics and religion in polite company, but here it's Apple and Obama.

Top 10 most religious topics on DailyTech:

1. Apple
2. Obama
3. Apple
4. Apple
5. Obama
6. Apple
7. Global warming
8. Nuclear power
9. lazy gay feminist hippie Californians on welfare who hate football
10. Video game violence


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By PaFromFL on 11/12/2013 8:25:43 AM , Rating: 2
Where's the fun in polite company? I think you forgot about corn ethanol and electric vehicles.


By superstition on 11/12/2013 6:24:29 PM , Rating: 2
And gun control.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By tayb on 11/11/2013 3:35:45 PM , Rating: 3
The Patriot Act existed before he was in office but that doesn't mean he had continue spying or expand the spying. He is in control of the executive branch and has had authority for 5 years to shut down NSA spying. He isn't interested in shutting it down.

This is particularly egregious because Obama campaigned on promising to end this kind of unconstitutional surveillance. And instead he has overseen the largest expansion of spying in world history. You can't blame Obama for passing the Patriot Act but you can absolutely blame Obama for lying to our faces over and over and over again.

History will likely look back on the 16 years of Bush and Obama as the two worst presidencies in the history of the United States.


By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 3:49:00 PM , Rating: 2
Totally agreed. Every word.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2013 5:21:00 PM , Rating: 2
There is NOTHING in the Patriot Act that grants the Government the power to spy on millions of Americans, and collect nearly EVERYONE'S digital information, en mass.

Bringing up the Patriot Act is a pathetic attempt at yet another "Blame Bush" strategy by Obama and the Liberal media. Stop repeating the lies and debate from honestly.

If you don't believe me, listen to the guy who wrote the damn thing

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130612/18210323...


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 5:31:04 PM , Rating: 2
And we should believe that guys take on his own bill, because a politician would never try and cover their own ass?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

"The scope and availability of wiretapping and surveillance orders were expanded under Title II. Wiretaps were expanded to include addressing and routing information to allow surveillance of packet switched networks[35]"

"Various provisions allowed for the disclosure of electronic communications to law enforcement agencies. Those who operate or own a "protected computer" can give permission for authorities to intercept communications carried out on the machine, thus bypassing the requirements of the Wiretap statute"


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2013 5:43:02 PM , Rating: 1
Retro with all due respect, you're out of your element.

What the NSA is doing is illegal: spying on American citizens.

The Patriot Act in NO WAY grants the NSA the ability to spy on all Americans and collect their data.

The Patriot Act is VERY specific. The only agencies granted these extra surveillance provisions is the FBI etc etc, NOT THE NSA.

The Patriot Act also makes it pretty damn clear these powers were only to be granted for a specific INVESTIGATION. Now I'm pretty damn sure nearly EVERY AMERICAN isn't under investigation, so the NSA is full of it.

It's not like I'm defending the Patriot Act. But these are the facts. It cannot be logically stated what's happening with the NSA spying is because of the Patriot Act. It's flatly illegal, through and through, and NOTHING is granting them this authority.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 6:01:47 PM , Rating: 2
"What the NSA is doing is illegal: spying on American citizens."

Totally with ya there. It makes me ill to even think about it. There is verbiage all over the patriot act about warrantless wiretaps and warrantless monitoring... Was it meant to be what it is? Probably not, but that is how it is being perverted by the NSA head who was appointed in 2005. Make what you want of that.

"Retro with all due respect, you're out of your element."

Honestly bro, you are too far to one side to even make that call. I feel your pain and I share your anger, but its 1/2 directed at the wrong element. What is happening in the US inst the politicians on the left pulling strings against the innocent victim politicians on the right... What is happening is both of them pulling strings ( choreographed in perfect unison ) on the public with a specific goal to keep the public "divded and conquered" barking at each other rather than addressing the real issues.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2013 6:11:10 PM , Rating: 2
You know I feel like you didn't even read my post, you rather just judge me and ignore the facts.

Meh...

YOU voted for Obama yet you question my perspective on things...right, okay!

quote:
What is happening is both of them pulling strings ( choreographed in perfect unison ) on the public with a specific goal to keep the public "divded and conquered" barking at each other rather than addressing the real issues.


LOL!!!

Conspiracy theory BS. The partisanship in Washington in real and palpable, it's so thick you can cut it with a knife. This silly idea that it's all for show, and they meet secretly in smoky rooms to choreograph our destruction, is such nonsense.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By superstition on 11/11/2013 6:38:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The partisanship in Washington in real and palpable, it's so thick you can cut it with a knife.

No matter how many times the facts are put to you you continue to believe that.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/iowa -the-meaningless-sideshow-begins-20120103

Explain why the same 1% donors bankrolled both candidates.
Explain why the person backed by 1% money always "wins."


By superstition on 11/11/2013 6:40:59 PM , Rating: 2
You can also explain why James Clapper, who lied to Congress -- a crime that carries a felony -- still has a job while whistleblowers who blew the whistle on financial fraud are in prison.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Reclaimer77 on 11/11/2013 6:49:52 PM , Rating: 2
The fact that you cite Rolling Stone magazine as a political source tells me all I need to know.


By retrospooty on 11/11/2013 7:35:53 PM , Rating: 2
Use the same methodology that would be used in any crime... follow the money. Its all the same.


By superstition on 11/11/2013 7:51:07 PM , Rating: 2
Another ad hominem pass... shocking.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By bodar on 11/12/2013 9:58:07 PM , Rating: 2
One could almost give Obama a pass for not dismantling the Bush legacy programs (e.g., Gitmo, Patriot Act, NSA wiretapping) during his first term. After all, in today's political climate of "just attack the other guy and spin, spin, spin", such moves would have been thrown in the faces of a frightened American populace as "look how soft Obama is on terror", all but confirming the wild conspiracy theory that he's the greatest Muslim sleeper agent of all time. So, fine. He'll fix it all in Term 2, right? *BUZZ* Wrong, he just doubled-down on that BS (well, Gitmo was a freebie), then tacked on some more and that's what is inexcusable. I'm Jack's Broken Heart.


By Jeffk464 on 11/11/2013 3:45:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
??? Your grasp of politics is as flimsy as your grasp of evolution... Yes, everything is always Obama's


"The buck stops here" - But of course the Federal government is way to large for one person to manage.


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By ebakke on 11/11/2013 1:52:13 PM , Rating: 4
When you write emails do you split your first sentence between the subject line and the first line of the body?


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By villageidiotintern on 11/11/2013 3:31:48 PM , Rating: 2
Yes...


By villageidiotintern on 11/11/2013 3:32:16 PM , Rating: 2
...I do.


By spamreader1 on 11/11/2013 2:05:38 PM , Rating: 2
You can be a wonderful person, and still need to be held accountable to your actions...


RE: He said during the 2008 campaign
By Jeffk464 on 11/11/2013 2:14:36 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
"And now we have a contractor employee, not a government employee, who has access to information which is, when revealed, most damaging to the standing prestige of the United States and our relations with some of our best friends," said McCain.


The problem is not the release of the information, the problem was the actions of the NSA period. Thats like cheating on your wife and then saying the problem is that she found out.


By kattanna on 11/11/2013 4:19:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Thats like cheating on your wife and then saying the problem is that she found out.


well.. technically, it only becomes a problem when she does in fact find out

;>)


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