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An excerpt from Intel's most recent processor foil
Believe it or not, there's still more "Conroe" madness

The official embargo for most things Conroe came and went, but it appears there is still one more card Intel hasn't played yet.  The newest Intel roadmap has added a bin-5 Conroe processor, the Core 2 Duo E4300. 

E4300 is clocked at 1.8GHz and has two megabytes of L2 cache.  Unfortunately, the processor lacks VT and vPro extensions, and also runs at an 800MHz front-side bus.  Intel has not revealed pricing for the new processor yet since it is not to be announced until Q1'07, but considering the fact that the 1.86GHz E6300 is slated for $183, the E4300 may be one of the greatest bargains yet.

Intel's addition of a bin-5 processor is not totally surprising, as virtually every Intel processor architecture before has had at least five bins.  However, with the news of a 2x256KB L2 Athlon 64 X2 3600+, a low-bin Conroe makes even more sense than ever before.  The Athlon 64 X2 3600+ is slated to become an OEM component only, but the E4300 appears to be a retail-ready processor, meaning we should see it in store shelves come Q1'07.

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RE: Upgrade Path is important too.
By TomZ on 7/18/2006 11:03:43 AM , Rating: 2
Have you guys forgotten about the upgrade path? Just because AMD is making huge price cuts doesn't mean it's going to pay off in the future. When you buy a computer, you should also choose the platform that's suits best for you when you want to upgrade in the future.

I haven't found this to be true in my experience. When I buy/build a new machine, I don't usually have any desire to upgrade for maybe 2-3 years, except for maybe adding some more RAM. In 2-3 years, enough of the architecture has changed, and newer stuff available, that I find at that point that instead of just upgrading the CPU, it makes more sense to also get a new motherboard and RAM. Therefore, the notion of an "upgrade path" has been kind of a myth, at least in my experience.

RE: Upgrade Path is important too.
By Helbore on 7/18/2006 1:13:30 PM , Rating: 2
I'd agree with that entirely. I have NEVER upgradeda processor, aside from one time where I got hold of a better unit for free. Other then that, its always been RAm and graphics, with the occasional new HDD. If its time for a new CPU, then chances are you are wasting your time unless you upgrade the mobo and RAM, too.

By customcoms on 7/18/2006 2:35:52 PM , Rating: 2
I tend to agree with that. However, the current situation is a little different. We have 2 AMD platforms (AM2 and S939) that have virtually IDENTICAL performance, but with more mature boards for S939. People who already have a decent-great S939 system don't have any reason to buy an AM2 setup and replace the ram and board if all they need is a dual core processor, for example. If you wanted to upgrade, from say a single core S939 system, you have 2 options: buy a dual core S939 processor at a relativly cheap price in about a week, or spend that money plus $400 for a new board and ram on a conroe system. The X2

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