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New 8 inch tablet prototype also leaks

Hot on the heels of the announcement of the 10.1-inch Lumia 2520 Windows RT 8.1 tablet and the 6-inch Lumia 1520/1320 phablets -- plus some slick accessories like the "Treasure Tag" -- at Nokia World, more fresh devices are leaking from the Nokia Devices brand.

I. Lumia 929 Set to Rock Verizon

First up is the Lumia 929.  The Lumia 929 will be an iterative bump to Nokia's line to keep up with Jones, i.e. the Android OEMs who are flocking to the quad-core Snapdragon 800, which is becoming available at last from Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM).

Under Microsoft's guidance, Nokia is moving to a more aggressive device rollout schedule, and the Lumia 929 is proof of that.

The device is set to go on sale at Verizon Communications Inc.'s (VZ) Verizon Wireless brand -- the largest LTE carrier in the U.S. -- and is also rumored to be an exclusive (for the holidays at least).  The phone runs Windows Phone 8 Update 3, the last major update to arrive before Windows Phone 8.1.

Lumia 929
  • Price :
    • ??
  • Form Factor
  • Size:   ??
  • Weight: ??
  • Colors
    • glossy white
    • matte black
  • Screen
    • 5.0 inches
    • 1080p (1920x1080 pixel)
    • 440 ppi
    • AMOLED
    • Gorilla Glass 3
  • SoC
    • Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
      • 2.26 GHz quad-core ARM Krait 400 CPU
      • Adreno 330 GPU
  • RAM:
    • 2 GB DRAM
  • Battery
    • ??
  • Storage
    • Internal
    • 32 GB
    • No microSD
  • Camera(s)
    • Rear
      • 20MP (with PureView optical stabilization)
    • Front
      • 1.3MP
  • Connectivity
    • LTE
    • Dual-band Wi-Fi (2.4G/5G) 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
    • Bluetooth v4.0
    • NFC
  • Other
    • Qi charging

Another leak -- from top Nokia leaker @ev-leaks on Twitter -- revealed an upcoming 8-inch Windows RT tablet from the Nokia Devices brand. 
The tablet is rumored to be in the testing phase under the codename "Illusionist" and will be only Nokia's second large-size tablet computer following the 10-inch Lumia 2520.  If the Lumia 2520 is any clue, the 8-inch Lumia device may pack higher end hardware and a slightly higher sticker price than possible 7-to-8-inch Microsoft Surface branded devices.

The Verge has offered direct confirmation from Nokia Devices that the 8-incher is indeed real.  They add that it will pack a Qualcomm chip (likely the Snapdragon 800).  The small tablet is reportedly due out later next year along with budget Lumia 1310.

Sources: WPCentral, EV Leaks, The Verge



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RE: Doesn't matter.
By ritualm on 11/5/2013 12:25:33 AM , Rating: 2
I prefer Nokia's naming scheme over Samsung's. Galaxy is so overused as a product line name, it's not funny.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/2013 1:13:46 AM , Rating: 2
Yes but at least you know the difference between a Galaxy S whatever and a Galaxy Note.

You can tell me Nokia's ambiguous catalog system is preferable, but that sounds like bias.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By themaster08 on 11/5/2013 2:05:06 AM , Rating: 2
Whilst I agree somewhat with your opinion, you have to consider the circumstances which Nokia is under.

the iPhone and Galaxy series of smartphones command a significant share of the market. Both of these brands came to rise in a less established market, which means now all carriers want those same devices on their networks.

Nokia no longer has any market dominance and is at the mercy of carriers demanding exclusives. As a result, there are an abundance of different Lumia models which are carrier exclusives, all of which have different names and slightly different appearances/specifications.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reflex on 11/5/2013 3:19:13 AM , Rating: 3
What's ambiguous about it? Higher numbers are better. End of story really. Is math complicated for you?

And no, I highly doubt a typical consumer can tell the difference between a Galaxy S and a Galaxy Note based on the name. They obviously look different, but the names do not mean anything inherently.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/2013 7:42:21 AM , Rating: 3
You don't have to be a condescending jerk. I already said in my op I get higher numbers are better, generally. That still tells me nothing about the phone.

How hard is it for YOU to get marketing? There's a reason most products have names and not a generalized serial number. Numbers are cold and lack personality. We don't identify with numbers like we do names.

You're just being way too defensize about this. Grow up, I'm not here to take your precious from you.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By troysavary on 11/5/2013 7:59:46 AM , Rating: 2
So S2, S3, and S4 are not numbers? The fact you are calling him a jerk for disagreeing with you shows me who is really getting defensive.

Your agenda is just as transparent as Tony's. You used to say that Nokia had obsolete hardware in their phones. Now that the hardware is just as good as Samsung, the problem is the numbers annoy you?


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/2013 8:53:53 AM , Rating: 2
And if Samsung released them as that, you would have a point. Those are Galaxy S(x)'s devices.

And I called him a jerk because he was being hostile and condescending for no reason. Of course I "get' what numbers are, that wasn't my point.

This isn't some huge manifesto against Nokia, you whiney little tool that follows me around. I just think they need to better identify and differentiate their product lines. Omg the horror!


RE: Doesn't matter.
By troysavary on 11/5/2013 1:58:10 PM , Rating: 3
I don't follow you around. You just post stupid in such volume that no matter what article I am reading, there you are posting stupid. So it is "Hostile and condescending" when someone proves you wrong. but "whiney little tool" is not hostile and condescending for no reason?


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/2013 2:08:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yet you always ignore others who post the same opinions or who agree with me. Look below, Labotimizer gets this, is he "stupid" too? Below him, is crisp being stupid? Nah you'll ignore them and pretend its all the big bad Reclaimer

Troll me all you want, ignore all evidence that clashes with your world view, with each pathetic post you only prove I own you.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By troysavary on 11/5/2013 2:15:31 PM , Rating: 2
Own me, you didn't even address a single point I made. You simply jump on any post about any phone not Android and pathetically try to find anything to nitpick about. Lobotomizer doesn't go from thread to thread spreading FUD about non-Google devices. And he simply stated that Nokia could differentiate the products better, which is a valid point. You, on the other hand, claimed Nokia was "annoying" when you would never buy the product anyway, so the naming convention should not affect you one way or another. To be annoyed at the number Nokia attached to their phone tell me you need help.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/6/2013 12:04:36 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
And he simply stated that Nokia could differentiate the products better, which is a valid point.


I said this like 8 times here.

Man you're a joke lol. Start a Reclaimer fan club and get it over with, tryhard.

quote:
pathetically try to find anything to nitpick about.


Some guy made a thread whining about this models lack of SD slot. Again, you're curiously silent about that. Only when I speak, it's an issue to you...


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Mitch101 on 11/6/2013 11:05:30 AM , Rating: 2
He pulls the same excuses and rants against everyone who has a different opinion than his and I agree with your posts on him joining every subject spewing crap.

Its almost like badge of honor when Reclaimer calls you troll or condescending jerk when he does it himself. Like dealing with a child he called it first.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Labotomizer on 11/5/2013 9:37:47 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps his point is that there should be different names for Low/High/Tablet? I personally don't understand using the Lumia brand for a tablet and calling it a 2520.

Another good example is it would appear the 929 is a better device than the 1320. It's actually better than the 1020 outside of the camera. I think VZW forced them into the 929 name as I was think something like a 1400 series would have made more sense. High end specs but 5" screen. 1500 could have been 6" screen. Or perhaps move to something even better. A 15xx could equate to the 1 equaling the new SnapDragon, the 5 could represent approximate screen size and the last two could be a revision. So the 929 could have been the 1500, the 1520 could have been the 1600. At least that would make more sense.

Then you have the 2520 tablet... Who knows, maybe the 8" tablet with be a 2920? It's really, really hard to tell.

Nokia's numbers are indeed very arbitrary. I'm a huge fan and follow it very close but it's really hard to argue that point. Most people would assume that the bigger number is better. But that's not always the case.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By troysavary on 11/5/2013 2:21:05 PM , Rating: 2
Samsung used the Galaxy brand for their tablets too. Lumia has come to mean Nokia Windows device the same way Galaxy has come to mean Samsung Android device. Hell, Galaxy even means watch now in Samsung speak.

Seems simple to me 1-10 series, phone, 11-19 series, phablet, 20+ series, tablet. If they stick to that naming, there is no confusion. Way less ambiguity than the 20+ different names attached to Galaxy devices.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By crispbp04 on 11/5/2013 11:29:51 AM , Rating: 2
I see what you're saying, to an extent.

The number system is meaningful from a technical standpoint because it offers clear distinction, but you're right in that it is confusing to an average consumer. This is the reason Apple dropped the numbering on iPads. Brand identity is above all. Samsung recognized this, and the success of Galaxy speaks for itself.

The criticality of brand Identity can be shown easily if you look at google trends and type in "Galaxy,Android,iPhone,Droid,Lumia" into the search box.

Droid has the worst attempt at creating a brand because there was too many devices with the branding for people to "get it". It never stuck and nobody would say "hey is that a droid you're using?". Galaxy and iPhone on the other hand... they took it to the bank. Android can thank Samsung for what it is today solely because of the Galaxy line... But I digress...

Back to Nokia with their Lumia brand. The word Lumia itself is not concrete: hard to remember, it's not generic enough, and I think they could have done better with something that sticks easier in someone's mind. It's a shame that the Surface brand wasn't used all along.

They now have several ranges all targeted at different price ranges with their Lumia Brand.. 5xx,6xx,7xx,8xx,9xx,10xx, and now 20xx with their tablets...

They really need to consider modifying their approach, all focused around strengthening brand and recognition:

1) Pick three consistent and distinctive device tiers:
I would suggest a 4", 5", and 6". Let's call them "Lumia", "Lumia S", and "Lumia XL" for this example. Have the same physical measurements for each tier, regardless of build material (plastic vs. metal like the 925vs920).
The accessory market thrives when a device has longevity to it's form factor, as shown by the iPhone 4 thru 4s, 5->5s

2) build out from each tier in the same fashion: budget, Prosumer, Niche
Lumia => + => + Pro (instead of 5xx/6xx/7xx/8xx)
Lumia S => S+ => S+ Pro(instead of 9xx/10xx)
Lumia XL => XL+ => XL+ Pro (instead of 13xx/15xx)

maybe the series can be kept as a subtitle to maintain the ability to be iterative (920 should go to 921, 922, etc. but maintain form factor for accessory success)

3) Drop carrier exclusive customizations. The Lumia 928 blows (I'm on my 3rd one, two cracked screens in less than a month). The Lumia 929 carries over the same flaw as the 928 (no bezel to protect the glass) The 920 was a better phone, should have released a 921. 520,521,820,822,821,620,720,721... list goes on.. that's a joke.

4) Focus on the customization market, MotoX has the right idea

5) Win


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reflex on 11/5/2013 1:26:08 PM , Rating: 2
I am not being condescending. I think you are the one who does not get marketing. Yes, a good name is important. But in generational products the most effective way to give people an idea of progress is numbers. That is why these are called *Lumia* with a number. Just like many car series, just like Schick razors, just like software versions, just like so many things I could get lost mentioning it. Things that sell well and that people remember. In fact, if a product does not have a number automatically people often simply add one by attaching the model year.

People buy their phones on carriers. On each carrier the model numbers are fairly consistent. Even among them they are mostly consistent with only a couple of oddities(the Lumia 810 example above). If I am on any given carrier I have somewhere between 2-4 Nokia options, and the numbering is consistent to denote what class the device is, and what generation it is.

You seem to me to be inventing an issue to have something to complain about. I'd take this over the Samsung route any day.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Monkey's Uncle on 11/5/2013 4:17:47 PM , Rating: 2
Hold on there a sec.

Reading Nokia's naming conventions, the first number is the rear of the phone, the OS platform the second and specific OEM variant is the 3rd. None of these show that the Lumia 929 is a whole new generation of this model phone. In fact nothing about the phone describes that. If I go to Verizon and see a 929 and at AT&T see a 928, I will assume that these carriers are simply using their own number as the 3rd digit.

Please explain to us exactly how we know if we go and buy AT&T's phone that I am NOT getting a snapdragon 800 processor?

At least a manufacturer like Samsung will at least let you know that a phone like the Samsung Galaxy S4 is the latest & greatest generation of that phone model - you will not find a better phone within the Samsung Galaxy S line.

That distinction is not so apparent with Nokia.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Monkey's Uncle on 11/5/2013 4:19:17 PM , Rating: 2
Sheet...

"...the first number is the rear of the phone..." = "...the first number is the tier of the phone..."


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/6/2013 12:07:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Hold on there a sec. Reading Nokia's naming conventions, the first number is the rear of the phone, the OS platform the second and specific OEM variant is the 3rd. None of these show that the Lumia 929 is a whole new generation of this model phone. In fact nothing about the phone describes that. If I go to Verizon and see a 929 and at AT&T see a 928, I will assume that these carriers are simply using their own number as the 3rd digit.

Please explain to us exactly how we know if we go and buy AT&T's phone that I am NOT getting a snapdragon 800 processor?

At least a manufacturer like Samsung will at least let you know that a phone like the Samsung Galaxy S4 is the latest & greatest generation of that phone model - you will not find a better phone within the Samsung Galaxy S line. That distinction is not so apparent with Nokia.


QFT.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By Reflex on 11/6/2013 2:32:36 AM , Rating: 2
Except I don't agree that its a new generation of the phone. It runs the same OS as the previous gen, its just a spec update and slightly different form factor. But for a user its going to have the same functions as the previous gen.

Had it come out post WP8.1 I might see your point, but really this is just a faster/larger Lumia 928.


RE: Doesn't matter.
By kleinma on 11/5/2013 9:35:52 AM , Rating: 2
You could say the same thing about cars. You have your ford explorers and jeep wranglers. Then you have your BWM 528s and your Lexus LS450s

Do people not know the difference between a BWM 3 series and a BMW 7 series?


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