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Droughts are also accused of being the work of evil old global warming

After a decade of flat temperatures and missed predictions by global warming's shrillest speculators, Christiana Figueres, the executive secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), is still ringing the alarm bell for all who care to listen.  While she lacks the evidence to prove it, in a recent interview she expressed that she was "sure" warming was to blame for a laundry list of recent natural disasters, including, but not limited to wildfires and droughts.

I. UN Chief Believes Warming is to Sure Warming Causes Wildfires

In an interview with Christiane Amanpour of Time Warner Inc.'s (TWXCNN news agency, Ms. Figueres also expressed indignation at the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott. Abbot has referred to more extreme global warming predictions as "total crap" and pushed to repeal Australia's carbon tax, having disbanded the nation's climate change board in September.

Australia has recently suffered from raging wildfires, and Ms. Figueres was quick to seize on this point, stating:

We are really already paying the price of carbon.  We are paying the price with wildfires, we are paying the price with droughts.


She admitted, though:

The World Meteorological Organization has not established a direct link between this wildfire and climate change – yet.  But what is absolutely clear is the science is telling us that there are increasing heat waves in Asia, Europe, and Australia; that there these will continue; that they will continue in their intensity and in their frequency.

Australia wildfire
A wildfire rages in Australia. [Image Source: EPA]

It's worth noting that Mr. Figueres holds no degree in climate science (nor do most UN officials tasked with setting warming policy), having achieved a Master's Degree in social anthropology.  While this career politician may be unversed in climatology from a technical standpoint, she's not afraid of making bold and emotional claims.

II. Climate Chief was "Born Impatient"

In another recent interview -- this time with BBC News -- Ms. Figueres appeared to admit that she lacks the patience to wait for a thorough scientific study on the impact and extent of warming before taking action.  She is quoted as saying:

I am always frustrated by the pace of the negotiations, I was born impatient.  We are moving way, way too slowly, but we are moving in the right direction and that's what gives me courage and hope.
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I'm committed to climate change because of future generations, it is not about us, right? We're out of here.  I just feel that it is so completely unfair and immoral what we are doing to future generations, we are condemning them before they are even born.  
We have a choice about it, that's the point, we have a choice.  If it were inevitable then so be it, but we have a choice to change the future we are going to give our children.

Christiana Figueres
Christiana Figueres, UNFCCC executive secretary [Image Source: Getty Images]

Ms. Figueres -- who assumed her post at the UN in 2010 is currently working on drafting a global climate treaty, as per the decision reached at a 2011 summit in Durban, South Africa.  The treaty could look to implement carbon taxes, or other wealth redistribution measures supposedly aimed at "fighting warming", but it will have a tough road ahead, if temperatures remain flat over the next decade.

Sources: CNN, BBC News



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What degree do you hold?
By frelled on 10/23/2013 10:00:15 AM , Rating: 0
It's funny that you knock her for not having a degree in climate science yet you are sure your opinion is correct. What degree do you hold again? How do you dispute the fact that 99% of actual climate and non climate scientists believe in global warming. Even us lowly engineers agree. Enough with your libertarian opinion pieces. Please stick with tech or whatever it is that you are actually qualified to talk about.




RE: What degree do you hold?
By tng on 10/23/2013 10:43:11 AM , Rating: 2
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How do you dispute the fact that 99% of actual climate and non climate scientists believe in global warming.
Where do you get this from? The UN agenda? Really, it is disputed, and I highly doubt that 99% of climate scientists agree with AGW.

The rates of GW for the past decade have leveled off despite what the UN has said. If this were about Climate Change, the UN would have looked at this and re-evaluated. Since it is not about Climate Change at all, it is about making sure that we punish rich countries and giving more money and resources to those who have not earned it. It is also about making a very few select people in the world very rich off of hysteria.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By frelled on 10/23/2013 11:11:10 AM , Rating: 2
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

So it is 97%, I stand corrected. There is also the fact that no internationally recognized body of science has disagreed with the scientific consensus that global warming is real and that it has been caused by man.

So it is disputed? Find one recognized scientific body that disputes global warming that isn't funded by someone with an agenda *cough* Rove *cough*.

If you truly believe they have leveled off, you haven't been paying attention. Pattern changes in temperature and jet streams have caused a few places to actually level off, but ocean tempuratures are still rising and becoming more acidic. Glaciers are still melting. Droughts are still happening. Even if you ignore the extreme phenomena, regular weather patterns have already changed. I live in the Midwest and have seen winters be less harsh, rain levels decrease, allergens increase, etc. The posters on this site can deny all they want that it doesn't exist, but you are the minority.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By Mint on 10/23/2013 11:26:23 AM , Rating: 2
That consensus is only about whether AGW exists. The next step is quantifying it. But let's assume the IPCC is giving us good number there, and 97% of people agree on that, too.

It's another matter entirely to figure out what damage - economic and environmental - is caused by that warming. There is no consensus there, and the wildfires mentioned by this article have little supporting evidence of a meaningful connection.

Then it's yet another matter to figure out whether it's more economical/moral to adapt to warming, counter it with engineered cooling, or prevent emissions in the first place. There is even less consensus there.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By spamreader1 on 10/23/2013 11:28:11 AM , Rating: 2
The reverse of this is the same too though.

"So it is disputed? Find one recognized scientific body that disputes global warming that isn't funded by someone with an agenda *cough* Rove *cough*."

Global warming scientific studies are also funded by someone with an agenda. Drumming up fear drums up dollars to keep them funded.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By Mint on 10/23/2013 12:03:50 PM , Rating: 3
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Global warming scientific studies are also funded by someone with an agenda. Drumming up fear drums up dollars to keep them funded.
This is such a pathetic argument.

You can state this to disparage virtually ALL science. Every medical researcher wants his specialty to be the next big biotech boom. Every engineer wants his specialty to be the next silicon valley darling.

Just stop this anti-science propaganda.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By spamreader1 on 10/23/2013 2:28:19 PM , Rating: 2
I suppose you missed the point. All science should be questioned. How else are breakthrough's made? What shouldn't be done is creating alarmism in reguards to pushing an agenda.

Question everything, else we'd still be believing the world is flat and no human can survive the 55mph barrier...


RE: What degree do you hold?
By Mint on 10/23/2013 7:54:59 PM , Rating: 4
What makes you think GW is being less questioned than any result from biology, physics, etc?

I agree alarmism is counter productive, but the best way to counter alarmism is the same way you counter bad science: show that it's wrong. The first step is show that science has only made the case that AGW exists, not that it's time to take action now.

Denying AGW with cherry-picking, misuse of thermodynamics, personal attacks, accusations of falsification, etc are the wrong way to go about it.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By tng on 10/23/2013 3:02:32 PM , Rating: 2
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Find one recognized scientific body...
Well for one the IPCC is really a political body as is the UN. would you believe a report from BP saying that oil spills does not cause any environmental damage? A report from Phillip Morris saying that smoking is beneficial to your health? Why would you not question something from the UN who wants to run the world via it's proxy Climate Change?

Second on the 97%, when that came statement came out years ago, it was found that many of the scientists on the list did not agree with the findings and thought that they should be more research, but their names were used anyhow.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By tng on 10/23/2013 10:47:48 AM , Rating: 2
Also seems funny that you have logged on here just to talk comment on this, since you have no prior comments for the past year. You just find this article by accident or are you the person who is paid to refute these things?


RE: What degree do you hold?
By WLee40 on 10/23/2013 10:56:01 AM , Rating: 2
No, I have seen the same statistic. Look on weather underground site and other weather sites, I can't remember where I have seen it. The vast majority of climate scientists agree that global warming/climate change is real and that a significant portion is a result of human activities. Not all of it is a result of humans but at least some of it is. Quit putting your head in the sand and do a little research or listen to the experts consensus.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By NicodemusMM on 10/23/2013 11:01:13 AM , Rating: 2
Your referencing the WUO and claiming that others have their head in the sand? Talk about a lack of credibility.

You may wish to apply your last sentence to yourself, but with less bias and more logic and reason.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By WLee40 on 10/23/2013 11:10:45 AM , Rating: 2
I just don't know why people can have such strong opinions and have no scientific basis. It goes both ways. I think many of the naysayers are brainwashed too. I don't think anybody understands it enough and I agree that the alarmists are going too far also. I'll wait about 20 years and then maybe science will have a better handle on it...


RE: What degree do you hold?
By tng on 10/23/2013 3:07:38 PM , Rating: 2
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I think many of the naysayers are brainwashed too. I don't think anybody understands it enough and I agree that the alarmists are going too far also. I'll wait about 20 years and then maybe science will have a better handle on it..
OK maybe we should start doing something more, but I hold any organization that wants to tax us out of the problem suspect. This is where the UN wants to go with the solution, carbon taxes.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By troysavary on 10/23/2013 10:54:39 AM , Rating: 3
Actually, many people disagree with the "science" behind AGW, but didn't speak out for fear of retribution. Consensus by intimidation is not valid science.

No one was denying that there was, and I emphasize WAS, a warming trend. The doubt is that man is causing the warming. The Earth warms and cools in cycles that exactly match solar output, and has always done so. The warming cycle is over and we are heading into a cooling cycle. The peaks and valleys are always where the most extreme weather takes place.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By WLee40 on 10/23/2013 11:03:24 AM , Rating: 2
It is logical that the cooling and warming cycles have been going on for 4.5 billion years and will continue. We are exiting out of the last glacial period and are in an interglacial. Perhaps human activity can push us back into the "hot house" cycle and out of the ice age cycle. Nobody knows for sure, scientists don't seem to have a full understanding of what is going to happen and I certainly am not qualified to predict. All I have to go on is my limited understanding and the expert consensus.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By NicodemusMM on 10/23/2013 10:57:27 AM , Rating: 2
99%?

Please. You're a terrible liar. At least make up numbers that are plausible. "99% of actual climate and non climate scientists" is inaccurate enough to sail right past funny and into the land of brain-washed idiocy.


RE: What degree do you hold?
By mfenn on 10/23/13, Rating: 0
RE: What degree do you hold?
By Dorkyman on 10/23/2013 11:59:50 AM , Rating: 3
Tell you what. While I'm not in agreement with Mick over everything, how about YOU writing a column? Something new every day, okay? And make it interesting to us all.


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