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Apple refreshes its MacBook Pro range

Apple announced that it is revamping its MacBook Pro lineup. The new 13” MacBook Pro is now thinner, and lighter, and of course is powered by fourth generation Intel Core (Haswell) processors. It also gets up to 9 hours battery life. Like the MacBook Air ultraportables that were updated earlier this year, the new 13” MacBook Pro gets 802.11ac, PCIe SSDs and Thunderbolt 2.

 
Apple is also dropping the price of entry for the 13” MacBook Pro from $1,499 to $1,299. That base configuration will get you a 2.4GHz quad-core processor, 4GB of RAM, Intel Iris integrated graphics, and a 128GB SSD.
 
The 15” MacBook Pro also features fourth generation Intel Core processors along with the hardware updates seen on its smaller brother. The 15” MacBook Pro is also available with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M discrete graphics card.
 
The base price has also dropped from $2,199 to $1,999. The base configuration comes with a 2GHz Core i7 processor, 8GB of RAM, Iris Pro graphics, and a 256GB SSD.

 
Apple’s Phil Schiller also announced that the all-new Mac Pro will ship this December with a price tag of $2,999. That configuration will get you a 3.7GHz quad-core Xeon processor, 12GB of RAM, dual FirePro D300 GPUs and a 256GB SSD.
 
On a related note, Apple has announced that OS X 10.9, Mavericks, will be a free download for all Mac hardware that supports the operating system.


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RE: Trashcan
By The Von Matrices on 10/22/2013 4:01:20 PM , Rating: 1
I agree with you assessment completely. Apple has taken the Mac Pro, which was already a niche product, and reduced its niche even more. The Mac Pro used to be a high end workstation and its price was even comparable to dual processor workstations with the same hardware. Now it's just a design curiosity.

That price is so outrageous I seriously wonder if they'll bundle Final Cut Pro with the system and claim that it's a value since you're getting it for "free." Because at this point there is no reason to buy a Mac Pro unless you are absolutely in love with Final Cut Pro. No wonder Adobe Premiere and Sony Vegas are gaining so much market share compared to Final Cut Pro.


RE: Trashcan
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2013 4:21:25 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Trashcan
By TakinYourPoints on 10/22/2013 5:10:01 PM , Rating: 4
That picture misses this part.

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and its price was even comparable to dual processor workstations with the same hardware


A workstation with comparable specs (same Xeons, ECC RAM, server grade motherboards) from HP or Dell cost as much as or more than a comparable Mac Pro.

There's also the difference in display prices at the time when image was made. Two 24" TN panel displays as opposed to two IPS displays was a difference of almost two thousand.

The Mac Pro was never a consumer machine, it was a workstation with workstation components. Comparing one with a DIY PC using low grade parts misses the point since you can make similar price comparisons with workstations from any other OEM.

As for the new Mac Pro, it is super hard to nail down where it should be priced because there is nothing else like it. Thunderbolt 2 connectivity and the ability to drive three 4K displays is like nothing else out there right now.

It'll be great for post-production professionals, and I think it'll be incredible for on-set DIT stations, and that's pretty much it. Like the old Mac Pro, this machine isn't for 99.9999% of users. That's fine btw, I thought Apple had totally lost interest in supporting the pro community when they discovered they could make way more money selling to the masses.


RE: Trashcan
By The Von Matrices on 10/22/2013 7:53:30 PM , Rating: 2
The decision I don't understand with the new Mac Pro is the use of a single processor versus dual processors. Intel grossly overprices its 12-core part; a 12-core Xeon is $2500, about double the price of an equivalent 10-core Xeon or quadruple the price of a 6-core Xeon. This means you can get two 6-core Xeons for about half the price of one 12-core Xeon and simultaneously have the ability to use twice the memory.

Apple really emphesized style and size over cost consciousness and performance on the new Mac Pro, and I am not sure that this is what the target market wants. I can understand consumer oriented notebooks, tablets, and phones sacrificing performance for style, but for a device that will just sit under a desk this makes no sense to me. Not to mention that basically everything on it is external so you will have to deal with a mess of cables anyway.


RE: Trashcan
By TakinYourPoints on 10/22/2013 8:46:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The decision I don't understand with the new Mac Pro is the use of a single processor versus dual processors. Intel grossly overprices its 12-core part; a 12-core Xeon is $2500, about double the price of an equivalent 10-core Xeon or quadruple the price of a 6-core Xeon. This means you can get two 6-core Xeons for about half the price of one 12-core Xeon and simultaneously have the ability to use twice the memory.


Yup, I don't get it either. Space constraints automatically made more expensive single CPUs a requirement, and this is in an enclosure that doesn't necessarily need to be compact.

The only place I really see this as an advantage are on DIT carts in film production. It is small enough to fit in a road case and much easier to fit on a Magliner cart than a standard case without compromising performance. Hard drives in those use cases are all outboard anyway, so no change there either.

That said, I also don't know how this is "supposed" to be priced anyway, given that nothing else does what this machine does. I don't think any of us will have proper perspective until 4k monitors (let alone three 4k monitors per workstation) becomes a thing and other OEMs start building workstations that do the same thing.


RE: Trashcan
By The Von Matrices on 10/23/2013 12:05:13 AM , Rating: 2
The ability to drive three 4K displays is nothing exclusive to the Mac Pro. You can do that with a discrete AMD FirePro graphics card on any PC. Advertising three 4K displays is nice, but neither the Mac Pro nor any PC this year has enough performance to run anything smoothly on those three 4K displays.


RE: Trashcan
By TakinYourPoints on 10/23/2013 1:02:20 AM , Rating: 2
And that's a $1300 part. I suppose we do know how to price it, it is just very uncommon and ridiculously expensive. :)

I suspect that Thunderbolt 2 is going to go a very long way towards making the playback of 4k video streams smooth. Current Thunderbolt on a consumer level Macbook Pro can stream numerous 1080p streams without breaking a sweat.

In any case, we'll see. First gen Apple products almost always overreach their stated goals but they usually get it by the second version when technology catches up.


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