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Both the Lumia 1520 and Lumia 1320 feature 6" displays

Nokia may have announced the sale of its hardware division to Microsoft back in early September, but the company still has a least a few models that it’s ready to get out the door before the deal is complete. As a result, today we’re seeing the first “official” reveal of the Lumia 1520 and Lumia 1320.
The polycarbonate-bodied Lumia 1520 is the crown jewel of the Lumia family, bringing with it a massive 6” display with a resolution of 1920x1080. Powering the phone is a quad-core Snapdragon 800 processor that runs at a speedy 2.2GHz and is coupled with 2GB of RAM. Other features include 32GB of internal storage, microSD expansion (up to 64GB), Qi wireless charging, and a 3400 mAh battery.
In addition, the Lumia 1520 comes with a 20MP PureView camera that features a f/2.4 Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization (OIS).
The Lumia 1520 measures 6.41” x 3.36” x 0.34”  (L x W x D) and weighs 7.37 ounces.

The Lumia 1520 will be priced at $750 unsubsidized and will be an AT&T exclusive in the United States. When it launches, the smartphone will be available in four colors: Red (Glossy), White (Glossy), Yellow (Matte), and Black (Matte).

The second new Windows Phone device announced today is the Lumia 1320. The Loki to the 1520’s Thor, the former comes equipped with only a 720p display, 1.7GHz dual-core Snapdragon 400 processor (1GB of RAM) and 8GB of internal storage (although this can be expanded thanks to the included microSD slot). The camera specs also take a hit, as the Lumia 1320 is only equipped with a 5MP shooter on the back.

When it comes to physical dimensions, the Lumia 1320 is also larger and thicker all around with measurements of 6.47” x 3.38” x 0.39” and a stated weight of 7.76 ounces.
The Lumia 1320 will be available for an unsubsidized price of $339. It will also be available in Red, White, Yellow, and Black.

Sources: Nokia [1], [2]

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Im sad
By Salisme on 10/22/2013 8:40:40 AM , Rating: 5
I really wanted this phone, but I'm a verizon customer. Been using android for several phones now and I needed a change.

I don't understand why they do exclusives and at the same time expect to be competitive with their brands. Why would you cut off half your potential market?

RE: Im sad
By Gormond on 10/22/2013 8:52:46 AM , Rating: 4

I would have actually considered switching from my Note 2 but I'm on Verizon.

Windows phones seem to have a lot more responsive UI than android

RE: Im sad
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/13, Rating: -1
RE: Im sad
By Labotomizer on 10/22/2013 9:43:39 AM , Rating: 3
To be fair, you are comparing last year's WP hardware with this year's Android hardware. When you say "Android is just as responsive as Windows Phone" you're comparing an S4 dual core to a SnapDragon 800. The WP will now have the 800, which should make it faster than a Note 3.

If I were to get a device like the 1520 it would be more forward looking. Considering the rumors all seem to be pointing to a merge of RT and Windows Phone you should see the multitasking from Windows 8.1 make it's way to WP. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the features of WP 8.1 is split screen apps like you can do with Metro apps now.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Note 3. But I'm not interested in a 6" phone regardless of who makes it.

RE: Im sad
By sprockkets on 10/22/2013 9:46:58 AM , Rating: 2
Responsiveness has more to do with how you scale and utilize the CPU and run the GUI, not so much CPU speed. The GS3 is extremely quick compared to the SG2, but then ppl say the GS4 lags.

RE: Im sad
By Labotomizer on 10/22/2013 10:47:20 AM , Rating: 2
Sure it is. But WP is built on the NT Core which is excellent at scaling with CPUs, or is these days. So I have no doubt WP will take advantage of the additional cores. That said I think they'll be substantially more useful with WP 8.1.

However, my point stands. WP should run faster on an S800. From my experience the Lumia 928 runs as quickly and smoothly as the GS4. I haven't tried the new Note so I can't say and I know the S800 is a better CPU. So, out of the box, the Note 3 is likely faster than the L928.

I do think the Note 3 is likely a better fit for people who want a phablet.

RE: Im sad
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2013 10:53:28 AM , Rating: 1
What's more impressive to me are the GPU power increases we're seeing. They effectively double the performance from one generation to the next!

ARM isn't scaling anywhere close to that CPU wise.

RE: Im sad
By Labotomizer on 10/22/2013 11:36:02 AM , Rating: 2
Amen to that. It's almost like the good old days of discrete GPUs, where they were doubling every year and seeing serious gains every 6 months. Not rebranding cards and lowering the price every 2 years.

The GPU is the other reason I want an S800 WP8.1 device that's 5". Although, at least for now, they'll continue to lag behind putting that to use versus Android games.

Now I know what Mac users felt like all those years!

RE: Im sad
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2013 3:47:39 PM , Rating: 1
Not so sure about that. Windows Phone has lots of awesome games. It's just if you want a particular game, it might not be available or you'll have to wait a while to get it.

Yeah I remember the "good old days" of having to buy a video card every year lol.

RE: Im sad
By retrospooty on 10/22/2013 10:58:00 AM , Rating: 2
What you are seeing is Sambloat. Samsung puts so much garbage on their newer phones that it cant possibly keep up. Clean out some of hte bloat and Samsung phones are plenty fast, but untweaked, they can get bogged down. I know comparing an LG G2 with a new Note 3 (both using the exact same CPU and the LG G2 is massively faster. Faster UI, faster launching apps faster scrolling. Faster at everything. On a fresh boot with apps closed, Samsung is fast again. 30 mins later, bloatsville again.

RE: Im sad
By Mint on 10/22/2013 11:16:51 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, it must have gotten bad for a 800 to be bogged down. I never noticed that with my Note 2.

The thing with the Note is that the pen really completes the phablet experience, and you need Samsung's UI customization to maximize that. I take the bad with the good.

RE: Im sad
By Labotomizer on 10/22/2013 11:43:19 AM , Rating: 2
I think the pen completes the tablet experience in general. Especially one with a Wacom digitizer.

RE: Im sad
By retrospooty on 10/22/2013 2:38:40 PM , Rating: 2
Its there on the Note2 as well, but worse now. Stock ROM anyhow. Of course, anyone at this site should be off the stock ROM anyhow.

RE: Im sad
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2013 3:57:55 PM , Rating: 2
Without TouchWiz the Note would be just a big phone. Putting stock Android on the Note would be pretty stupid. So with all due respect to Retro, I don't see it as "Sambloat".

I think they went a little crazy on the Galaxy S4, but I don't own one. Who am I to say none of the customizations add value to the phone?

As far as the Galaxy Note 3, I've spent quite a bit of time on my friends. So far, there's no indication the "Sambloat" has effected the performance and snappiness of the phone. But a lot of Samsung's customizations add distinction and convenience to the product. And a certain 'cool factor'.

For my money, there's really nothing else out there even close. The Note 3 is the smartphone experience yardstick which all others must be measured against. People thought they were crazy making a 'phablet' phone years ago, now they'll all rushing to make bigger and bigger phones.

RE: Im sad
By Wolfpup on 10/25/2013 3:01:14 PM , Rating: 2
What would be wrong with stock Android? I'd never even consider buying an android device with junk from Samsung glooped on top.

Even clean Android runs slower than iOS or Windows Phone, even on faster hardware. My girlfriend ditched a Samsung phone because of the glop.

RE: Im sad
By Gormond on 10/22/2013 9:59:25 AM , Rating: 2
Phablets do seem ridiculously large until you get used to them. Then you wonder how you ever made it without a phone with a large screen. Remember-the phone function is only the 5th most used function in a smart phone.

RE: Im sad
By retrospooty on 10/22/2013 10:05:23 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly... With everything that today's smartphones do, to put all that great functionality on a tiny screen is a total waste... Thus the growing popularity of larger and larger screens.

RE: Im sad
By Labotomizer on 10/22/2013 10:42:59 AM , Rating: 2
I won't argue that nor am I saying there isn't a need for a 6" phone for users. Just not for me. I have a Kindle Fire HD, iPad 2 and a Surface Pro. For me a 5" phone would be ideal.

Not disregarding your usage or the millions of people who want a 6" device. Just not for me. Of course, I used to think an onscreen keyboard wasn't for me and I was proven wrong there. Nothing to say that won't happen with a large phone either.

RE: Im sad
By retrospooty on 10/22/2013 10:53:50 AM , Rating: 2
Of course its not for everyone. But alot more and more are going larger and larger.

RE: Im sad
By Mint on 10/22/2013 11:21:49 AM , Rating: 2
I have a Kindle Fire HD, iPad 2 and a Surface Pro.
Yikes. Got a little Goldilocks syndrome? :)

But seriously, I can understand why you have no need for a phablet. I'm the other way: I have a Note 2 and see no need for an iPad/Nexus.

RE: Im sad
By Labotomizer on 10/22/2013 11:40:51 AM , Rating: 1
iPad 2 I bought for testing mobile device management and iOS with corporate environments, Kindle Fire HD because of the Amazon Prime library access you can only get on Kindle devices and Surface Pro is my travel work system.

But yes, if I weren't married I would likely have way, way more useless gadgets. I'm sure I'd have a true Android tablet in this mix if my wife wouldn't kill me.

RE: Im sad
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2013 12:34:45 PM , Rating: 3
Pffft what she don't know won't hurt her.

These things are thin! Tape one to the back of your toilet tank :)

RE: Im sad
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2013 12:36:27 PM , Rating: 2
Pffft what she don't know won't hurt her.

These things are thin! Tape one to the back of your toilet tank :)

RE: Im sad
By retrospooty on 10/22/2013 12:36:37 PM , Rating: 1
"But yes, if I weren't married I would likely have way, way more useless gadgets."

LOL... I had the same issue. The fix is to get her hooked on them too. It worked for me. She just got a Note 2 a few months ago.

RE: Im sad
By Samus on 10/22/2013 4:22:00 PM , Rating: 2
Ugg. AT&T Exclusive? Ugg...

Microsoft/Nokia...still shooting themselves in the foot. Imagine where the iPhone would be if they weren't aT&T exclusive so long.

RE: Im sad
By RGrizzzz on 10/22/2013 9:02:46 AM , Rating: 2
You'll probably see a Verizon version in a few months.

RE: Im sad
By DFranch on 10/22/2013 9:13:01 AM , Rating: 2
check this out It's due in November, that is the one I'm waiting for. 6" is too big for a phone anyway.

RE: Im sad
By Labotomizer on 10/22/2013 9:45:23 AM , Rating: 2
I've got a 928 already and I'm guessing the 929 will have an S400 rather than an 800. I'll wait for the WP 8.1 hardware next year.

RE: Im sad
By cknobman on 10/22/2013 10:40:22 AM , Rating: 2
Same here. I'm on sprint and would kill for some Nokia Windows products. Oh well Microsoft can continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

RE: Im sad
By Florinator on 10/22/2013 2:43:04 PM , Rating: 3
The reason I switched from Verizon to AT&T 3.5 years ago was so I can get a Windows Phone. I never regretted my decision, in terms of customer service both companies are just as bad ;-)

RE: Im sad
By bradtech129 on 10/24/2013 3:35:12 PM , Rating: 2
I left US Cellular after ten years of being their customer to go to AT&T because they are the flagship for Windows Phone. I miss the customer service of US Cellular but not the slow data network and expensive phones. US Cellular would exchange phones after 30 days or before two years if you had on going issues. AT&T will tell you to deal with it.

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