Toyota Not Ready to Jump on Small Displacement, Turbo Engine Bandwagon
October 16, 2013 9:26 AM
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Larger displacement Atkinson cycle engines may be in the future for Toyota
A number of automotive manufacturers have begun to move away from larger displacement naturally aspirated engines to smaller displacement turbocharged engines. The general idea was that smaller and lighter engines would use less fuel while offering the same sort of performance thanks to the addition of a turbocharger. However, in the real world many drivers have discovered that turbocharged small displacement engines are often
unable to deliver on their fuel efficiency claims
Toyota is considering bucking the industry trend and rather than going with smaller turbocharged engines, is considering larger naturally aspirated engines to improve fuel efficiency. Senior managing officer in charge of drivetrain R&D for Toyota Koei Saga recently said that Toyota believes gasoline engines could benefit more from upsizing capacity in conjunction with Atkinson combustion cycles than going smaller with turbochargers.
Atkinson engines today are typically only used in hybrid vehicles like the Prius,
Ford Fusion Hybrid
Hyundai Sonata Hybrid
Honda Accord Hybrid
Increasing the displacement of an engine using the Atkinson cycle would deliver a specific output less than that of similarly sized conventional combustion cycle engines, but fuel economy would be better. Toyota believes that fuel economy would be better than the smaller engines they replace.
Toyota has offered no timeframe for bringing larger displacement Atkinson cycle engines to market and hasn't hinted at which models might get the Atkinson cycle engines.
Mazda experimented with similar “delayed valve”
Miller Cycle technology
over a decade ago in the
Millenia midsize sedan
. But instead of using electric motors to make up for the reduced power density like today’s Atkinson-engine hybrid vehicles, the Millenia used a supercharger.
Saga also talked a bit about the
next generation Toyota Prius
saying that the vehicle will use a mixture of battery technology including lithium-ion and nickel batteries. The reason for mixing battery types is that lithium-ion batteries are better for performance, but the durability and lifespan is better for nickel batteries.
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RE: According to whom?
10/16/2013 2:04:02 PM
Yeah, I've lived in 4 different major metro areas, and I've seen that in every one, but a little more pronounced in certain areas of Chicago. (NW suburbs of Chicago are DANGEROUS. you have a mix of super aggressive, from downtown, and super passive people, from the local area. Getting caught between them is a really bad idea.) Stupid is everywhere.
I recently saw an old woman in the Denver Tech area in the evening rush hour merge onto I-25 doing about 40, and move over two lanes at once. It caused a 7 car accident across those two lanes from the people who had to slam on their brakes to avoid her, and she didn't even seem to notice the chaos and damage she unleashed. Luckily, I was in the third lane over and missed it all, and managed to pass her. She didn't even signal in any of her lane changes and moved all the way over to the left lane, doing 55 in a 65 zone, causing all sorts of traffic problems behind her, all in the less than 3 miles I watched her until I got off the highway.
A lot of the people I talk to who drive that way think it's safer, clueless of what they unleash on other people. I've tried explaining it, and they just come back with "those other people shouldn't be going that fast anyway." It's the Dunning-Kruger effect in its full glory.
RE: According to whom?
10/17/2013 6:40:51 PM
Your story about the old woman driving reminded me of this video:
"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders." -- Michael Dell, after being asked what to do with Apple Computer in 1997
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