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Cadillac's plug-in EV comes with a hefty price tag

In recent months, General Motors has made it known that it has Tesla Motors in its sights and plans to take on the EV manufacturers with fresh electric vehicles from Cadillac. “If you want to compete head-to-head with Tesla, and we ultimately will, you want to do it with a Cadillac,” said GM CEO Dan Akerson last month in Washington, D.C. 
 
“But I do think when the (Cadillac) ELR comes out late this year, early next — it’s certainly in the same postal code as Tesla, but now we’re going to move up. It’s not going to be a mass-produced car.”
 
When it comes being "in the same postal code", Akerson definitely wasn’t joking — at least when it comes to pricing for the Cadillac ELR. The base Model S with a 60 kWh battery (230-mile range) stats at $69,900 before a $7,500 federal tax credit is applied. GM just revealed today via Cadillac’s website that the ELR plug-in luxury coupe will start at a lofty $75,000 before the tax credit is applied.

 
GM is currently accepting reservations for the vehicle and it will officially launch early next year.
 
Official specs for the vehicle are hard to come by, but GM’s preliminary figures suggest that the vehicle will travel 35 miles on battery power alone and will have an overall driving range of 300+ miles. When it’s all-electric range is exhausted and the 1.4L gasoline engine/generator is operational, GM says that the vehicle will return the equivalent of 30 to 35 mpg (premium unleaded gasoline is required).

 
 
In addition, the ELR will have a top speed of 100 mph and the 16.5 kWh lithium-ion battery pack can be recharged in 5 hours with a 240V connection.

Sources: Cadillac, GM



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300 Miles?
By Gunbuster on 10/11/2013 3:42:54 PM , Rating: 0
"overall driving range of 300+ miles."

Jesus, my Passat TDI get 29MPG on its worst day and has a range of over 500 miles...




RE: 300 Miles?
By foxalopex on 10/11/2013 3:53:37 PM , Rating: 2
I would guess that's because it has a small gas tank.


RE: 300 Miles?
By Nutzo on 10/11/2013 5:51:07 PM , Rating: 1
My Camry Hybrid (40mpg) can get over 600 miles on a tank of gas, on the highway or in town, but then the Volt's gas only mileage has always been rather poor for a car it's size.


RE: 300 Miles?
By superstition on 10/11/2013 11:39:48 PM , Rating: 2
My Passat TDI SE was getting amazing highway mileage but since I took it in for the 20,000 mile servicing, the mileage has plummeted. I wonder if it's related to the Castrol oil they put in, which is not what was in it before as far as I recall. Or, maybe one of them messed around with the tuning?

It would be hard to tell since the service department is so disorganized and slipshod that it almost can be described as being incompetent.

Volkswagen Passat TDI Smashes World Record With 78 MPG On U.S. Trip
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1085033_volksw...


RE: 300 Miles?
By lelias2k on 10/14/2013 8:03:02 AM , Rating: 1
Fantastic. Now what is that good for? Driving on the moon where there are no gas stations?

Let's get real here. Who can drive for 500+ miles without a quick pit stop? Your legs don't get tired? You don't need to use the restroom? You never get hungry?

I think the longest I ever drove without a stop was 250 miles.

Is it possible to do it? Sure. Recommended? I don't think so.


RE: 300 Miles?
By Gunbuster on 10/14/2013 9:42:02 AM , Rating: 2
You would be surprised how nice it is not having to stop for fuel. It goes a long way towards the feeling of luxury. Heck I could rationalize the diesel markup to myself for only having to fill it up every other week.

Sure on a 500 mile trip you have to take a stop to eat and use the head but it sure is nice not having to pair that up with a sleezy gas station all the time.


RE: 300 Miles?
By Nutzo on 10/14/2013 2:32:10 PM , Rating: 2
It lowers my gas cost to be able to only have to buy gas when I make my occasional trip to Costco. They are usually 10 cent (or more) cheaper than other tier one gas stations.


RE: 300 Miles?
By Keeir on 10/17/2013 11:39:21 AM , Rating: 2
Okay.

With a Voltec vechile, lets say on average you drive 50 miles a day. If 35 miles are electric, that means only 15 miles are on gasoline. With a gas tank capable for 300 miles, then you ought to feel comfortable driving 250 miles between fill up. Or ~17 days or 850 miles between stops. 850 miles is as long as a Diesel goes...

Typical Daily Mileage - Total "Range" between fill-ups
<35, infinate
50, 850
100, 384

As stated many times, Voltec technology in the Volt and ELR anyway is intended for people who drive between 25 to 50 average daily miles. I have a Volt, I drive ~37 miles daily (between 25-100 typ spread) and fill up roughly every 1,500 miles.

No car technology has yet been designed that is "perfect" for all users

Pure electric are great for people who tend to drive daily ~25-50% of EPA mileage and can afford to own or rent a second car

Voltec type are great for people who tend to drive daily between 50-150% of EPA mileage and need to flexablity to drive "forever"

Hybrids are great for people who drive alot of miles in stop and go traffic or in the city.

Diesels are great for people who drive alot of steady state relatively "fast" miles.

Standard gasoline are great for people who drive less than 30 daily miles and like to have a new car every few years.


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