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Workers in the division will be reassigned

In previous years, plasma technology was very popular with consumers that demanded large-screen televisions. However, as LCD technology became cheaper and image quality improved, the demand for plasma TVs has dwindled dramatically.

A rumor surfaced in March of this year that Panasonic would be exiting the plasma television market. That exit has now been confirmed according to sources that claim to be familiar with the company’s plans. The sources claim that Panasonic will leave the plasma television panel market by the end of March 2014.

 
Panasonic has continued to eliminate areas of its business that have performed poorly (as witnessed by its recent exit from the consumer smartphone market). Plasma televisions accounted for less than 6% of global shipments in 2012 compared to 87% for LCD TVs.

Sony, Panasonic, and Sharp combined for less than 20% of the worldwide flat-panel TV market by revenue. Samsung has 27.7% of the overall market while LG has 15%.

Reuters’ sources also tipped that the several hundred workers that are currently employed at Panasonic in the plasma television operation will be moved to other divisions within the company. 

Source: Reuters



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RE: Too bad
By Souka on 10/9/2013 3:38:30 PM , Rating: 2
I picked up a 2013 55" ST Panasonic plasma last summer... I LOVEd IT, untill I played FPS games on my PS3.... lag sucked.

Did some research, the higher model line Panasonic plasmas suffer input lag. See Cnet review on the subject if interested.

I ended up with a Vizio at 1/2 the price. My friend had one and I liked it, so I got one.

Video quality is not quite as good, but gaming is awesome.

My $.02


RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/9/2013 3:51:07 PM , Rating: 2
Most TVs have a lot of input lag because they've become "smarter."

All the gee-whiz new features add lag. Having a lot of ports, too, can add lag.

The people on avsforum were trying to find a low input lag LCD TV that displays computer text properly and basically gave up. I think they wanted CCFL backlighting, too, for better uniformity. There may be one LG model that suffices, but it has paltry black level when compared with a plasma.


RE: Too bad
By althaz on 10/9/2013 5:58:41 PM , Rating: 2
The input lag on my Samsung Plasma (Series 8 and it is in game mode) is comparable to two of my PC monitors and less than one (my old 215TW has significant input lag, but is still totally awesome).


RE: Too bad
By Makaveli on 10/9/2013 7:46:39 PM , Rating: 2
i'm on a 64'E8000 Samsung plasma and can confirm its great in gaming mode.

And the picture on this plasma is better than any LCD/LED i've seen so far.


RE: Too bad
By Kiffberet on 10/10/2013 8:06:21 AM , Rating: 2
If Panasonic make such awesome Plasmas, why would they stop making them?

'Cause they make the best Plasmas that nobody wants.

There are cheaper alternatives where 95% of the population can't tell the difference in PQ or give a sh1t.

That's the market they need to aim for to survive...



RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/10/2013 5:09:00 PM , Rating: 2
The best product does not always succeed in the market. Marketing can do a lot. Plus, the type of people who buy the product (the consumer profile) makes a huge difference. A product may be objectively better, but that doesn't mean it matches the consumer profile.

Plasma does have a few significant drawbacks:

1. Image retention. (I don't believe that it has been eliminated, although some people claim the latest models don't have it. My 2008 model certainly has it when connected to a computer. It never has problems with TV content.)

2. Less brightness. This is only a problem for people who want to use the panel in poor lighting. However, there are usage scenarios that involve poor lighting, such as TVs in brightly-lit public areas. Also, more expensive models have higher brightness.

3. Power consumption. This is only significant for certain situations, like wall TVs in brightly lit public areas. For home use in a properly lit room, it's not an issue.

4. "Buzzing." Fan noise can be an issue because of the mostly irrational consumer demand for thin televisions. This makes it more important to place the TV in proper lighting so it doesn't have to run as hot.

But, plasma:

1. Offers less costly square inches. Plasma tends to be cheaper per square inch than LCD, especially in terms of picture quality per square inch per dollar. Panasonic offers some very inexpensive large size plasma TVs.

2. Offers better contrast ratio than LCD.

3. Offers faster pixel speed than LCD (less motion blur.)

4. Doesn't have LCD's uniformity problems (especially edge-lit LCD models.)

5. Doesn't suffer from LED backlighting blue or green tinting.

6. Doesn't suffer from clouding caused by the polishing process.

Just the first one alone makes plasma compelling. But, it takes marketing and consumers who care about picture quality. Many consumers think plasma TVs are hot, expensive, noisy, don't last long, and use huge amounts of power.


RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/10/2013 10:57:47 PM , Rating: 2
Also, compared to "white" LED, plasma generally has a larger color gamut. The new GB-LED is going to help with that some, though.


RE: Too bad
By Ktracho on 10/11/2013 1:28:57 PM , Rating: 2
I recently bought a 50" Panasonic plasma TV at Costco for $630. I don't claim it's the best TV ever, but it has some "smart" features, and it was cheaper than almost all the LCD TVs I looked at, except for maybe the ones that don't have any "smart" features. I am satisfied, though I only use it at night, mostly to watch movies on the weekends.


RE: Too bad
By FITCamaro on 10/10/2013 8:13:14 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I've got a 3 year old Panasonic plasma that isn't a "smart" TV and I have no noticeable input lag. Even when I had my console routed through my receiver.

Yes plasma's use more power than LCDs but the colors are worth it. But I'll admit that it does suck to have to think a lot about pausing things for too long so you don't get any burn in.


RE: Too bad
By Reclaimer77 on 10/10/2013 8:00:52 PM , Rating: 2
I've been known to leave a game or Netflix paused, crash asleep, then wake up in the morning with it still paused.

I also still watch a ton of 4:3 content with the left and right black bars, meaning those pixels aren't aging while the active ones are. Which would translate into burn-in.

I don't care what Takin says, no way I can trust a Plasma TV to handle my rockstar lifestyle :P


RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/9/2013 3:55:45 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57587317-221/...

If CNET's numbers are accurate, input lag isn't so good for any of the sets. For instance, a $200 27" 1080p BenQ GW2750HM A-MVA LCD monitor has an input lag of around 6 ms.

I assume that the lowest-end Panasonic plasma would have the least amount of input lag, just because it has less processing overhead and fewer ports.


RE: Too bad
By degobah77 on 10/9/2013 4:30:33 PM , Rating: 2
Most high end TVs have a GAME mode that turns off a lot of the video processing which reduces input lag. Anyways, the low end TVs always have the worst performance, and that's what the ST is. In actuality, plasmas are considered the best TVs for gaming due to their quick response times.


RE: Too bad
By CaedenV on 10/9/2013 4:36:25 PM , Rating: 3
refresh time is not the same as input lag. Plasma screens have excelent refresh time (aprox 600Hz compared to an LCD 60-240Hz), but plasma as a whole tend to have pretty awful input lag, and smart TVs are twice as bad.
Nothing better than a plasma for watching movies, but gaming and computer use is all about LCD.


RE: Too bad
By degobah77 on 10/9/2013 4:43:43 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't say anything about refresh rates in my post. I'm talking about quick response in reference to input lag. And as I already said, plasmas are fine if you enable GAME mode.


RE: Too bad
By sheh on 10/9/2013 5:44:01 PM , Rating: 2
These are "marketing refresh rates" rather than actual visible image updates per second.

Almost all TVs just do 60Hz. I'd assume that active 3D TVs do 120Hz, but they almost never accept 120Hz input for 2D. See:
http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/120hz-pc-to-tv/

I don't think there's anything inherent in plasma TVs that would lead to higher input lag. It's more a question of the firmware logic.


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