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Workers in the division will be reassigned

In previous years, plasma technology was very popular with consumers that demanded large-screen televisions. However, as LCD technology became cheaper and image quality improved, the demand for plasma TVs has dwindled dramatically.

A rumor surfaced in March of this year that Panasonic would be exiting the plasma television market. That exit has now been confirmed according to sources that claim to be familiar with the company’s plans. The sources claim that Panasonic will leave the plasma television panel market by the end of March 2014.

 
Panasonic has continued to eliminate areas of its business that have performed poorly (as witnessed by its recent exit from the consumer smartphone market). Plasma televisions accounted for less than 6% of global shipments in 2012 compared to 87% for LCD TVs.

Sony, Panasonic, and Sharp combined for less than 20% of the worldwide flat-panel TV market by revenue. Samsung has 27.7% of the overall market while LG has 15%.

Reuters’ sources also tipped that the several hundred workers that are currently employed at Panasonic in the plasma television operation will be moved to other divisions within the company. 

Source: Reuters



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RE: Too bad
By exeedorbit on 10/9/2013 11:18:02 AM , Rating: 0
While it's always sad to see any technology die, plasma's benefits over LCD dwindled far too quickly, while the price for such didn't.

Given the advances in LCDs, especially if calibrated correctly, the differences are very minimal.


RE: Too bad
By bug77 on 10/9/2013 11:34:28 AM , Rating: 4
If you go into a store, you can tell a plasma from an LCD from afar. That's not "very minimal" to me.


RE: Too bad
By 3DoubleD on 10/9/2013 12:46:34 PM , Rating: 5
Agreed, the difference is night and day. I will never buy an LCD TV - absolutely hideous picture.

Plasma or projector. Hopefully OLED improves quickly to fill this gap, but a lot of work needs to be done with regards to color accuracy, not to mention price.

A sad day indeed. Good thing I've been planning my next TV purchase (been primarily eyeing the panasonic plasmas) on either Black Friday or Boxing Day. Clearly I shouldn't hold back as no reasonable upgrade option will be available for a long time.


RE: Too bad
By Mitch101 on 10/9/2013 2:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
I think the problems of OLED Blue lifespan have been solved but I could be wrong. Still I hear the issue is attorneys battling one another on who has the rights to what. I think attorneys are to blame for not having OLED today.


RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/9/2013 3:05:08 PM , Rating: 2
They haven't been solved, but one company has tried to work around it by using a big white subpixel for general illumination. That makes it possible for the blue subpixels to do less work. However, the company made the blue subpixels smaller which in turn reduces their longevity.


RE: Too bad
By DocScience on 10/9/2013 5:34:52 PM , Rating: 2
As I recall, the latest OLED blues are up to 33,000 hours, well above the 20,000 generally believed to the threshold for burn resistance.


RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/10/2013 4:52:53 PM , Rating: 2
The engineer who developed the white subpixel solution said blue subpixels are still not where they want them to be in terms of longevity. Even with the band-aid of the white subpixels, the estimated lifespan (which is likely optimistic) for the blue subpixels is just ten years.


RE: Too bad
By tng on 10/9/13, Rating: -1
RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/9/2013 3:26:42 PM , Rating: 2
What a silly post. It doesn't take that much effort to look at CNET reviews or something to discover which TV has a better picture than another.


RE: Too bad
By tng on 10/9/13, Rating: -1
RE: Too bad
By degobah77 on 10/9/2013 4:25:57 PM , Rating: 2
I like being outside too, doesn't mean I can't appreciate high end PQ when I do decide to watch some TV.

What, you can't have more than one interest, it's one thing or the other and no middle ground?


RE: Too bad
By tng on 10/9/13, Rating: -1
RE: Too bad
By degobah77 on 10/9/2013 4:50:39 PM , Rating: 5
When I'm done skydiving, jetskiing, hiking Mt. Everest, sailing the Atlantic, scuba diving in the tropics, skiing down a mountain in British Columbia, flying my stunt kite, building a community playground, winning my beach volleyball game, coaching my little league game, handing out flyers for the clean water act, picnicing in the park, mowing my lawn, building my halfpipe, kitesurfing, and sitting on the dock of the mutha'uckin' bay, I'm gonna go home and watch my bad ass PLASMA because it's GOD. Ok?


RE: Too bad
By Spuke on 10/9/2013 5:41:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
sitting on the dock of the mutha'uckin' bay
LMAO!!!!!


RE: Too bad
By 3DoubleD on 10/10/2013 8:28:48 AM , Rating: 2
LOL

That was maybe one of the best replies I've read this year!


RE: Too bad
By shuninxuo on 10/11/2013 11:48:14 PM , Rating: 1
If you have so many better things to do than watch TV or care about the picture quality or the technologies behind it, don't you have better things to do than read an article about TVs and post moronic posts telling others to get a life?

Why don't you go outside, have sex with a tree and take a dump on a squirrel.

Leave the discussion about this topic to the people who are actually interested in the subject.


RE: Too bad
By tng on 10/15/2013 5:29:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why don't you go outside, have sex with a tree and take a dump on a squirrel.
LOL, you know my ex and her dog? Really I didn't do that, don't care what she said!


RE: Too bad
By CaedenV on 10/9/2013 4:33:03 PM , Rating: 3
Screw the outdoors! All it does is give you allergies and skin cancer. All of you outdoors and green types are just working for the trees. If I have learned anything from the internet, it is that Nature Hates You (youtube).

Stay inside and enjoy the nice glow of a TV in the basement!


RE: Too bad
By tayb on 10/9/2013 11:42:05 AM , Rating: 5
OLED is the only technology that can compete with plasma for color accuracy and blacks. LCD and traditional LED really can't even come close.

The downsides are the heat, power consumption, noise, and the glare. The glare is what really killed them. They just don't look good in a showroom filled with fluorescent lighting.


RE: Too bad
By 3DoubleD on 10/9/2013 12:51:22 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, the glare is a huge problem. In a bright room, plasma is terrible and you have to make due with the shoddy LCD quality. In dim or dark environments though, plasma TVs just beats the pants off of LCD TVs.

I never found this as a problem though. Why am I sitting on the couch watching TV if it is a sunny day?

You are right though, in a brightly lit showroom, plasma is at a disadvantage. They also hung onto 720p far longer with plasmas than for LCDs. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but that couldn't have helped.


RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/9/2013 3:14:07 PM , Rating: 2
CNET says the high-end plasmas do much better in bright rooms than the low-end models.

Really, though, someone who is particularly concerned about picture quality has no business subjecting their monitor to bright lighting in the first place.

If someone wants to watch their TV in harsh lighting they shouldn't worry about it being a low-grade LCD. It will save power, too, since plasmas are much more power efficient (and quieter) when in dim lighting so the brightness doesn't have to be cranked.


RE: Too bad
By TakinYourPoints on 10/9/2013 3:27:20 PM , Rating: 2
The other thing to note is that while LCDs are brighter, plasmas are by no means dim. Often times the extra light capacity of LCDs are wasted. It only really matters in the brightest of rooms with no light control. Watching an ultra-bright TV at night or with any sort of light control (ie - curtains) makes no sense, it is both unnecessary and fatiguing.


RE: Too bad
By althaz on 10/10/2013 5:26:24 AM , Rating: 2
IMO the extra light capacity of LCDs is ALWAYS wasted, it's incredibly rare to find a well set-up plasma TV at anything even approaching maximum brightness, for modern LED backlit LCDs the recommend settings will turn the backlight down to about 20%.


RE: Too bad
By tng on 10/9/2013 3:23:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
LCD and traditional LED really can't even come close.
What exactly is "traditional LED"?


RE: Too bad
By superstition on 10/9/2013 3:29:31 PM , Rating: 2
I would assume the reference is to "white" LED, especially edge-lit setups.

This would be in contrast with RGB-LED and similar setups that provide more accurate color.


RE: Too bad
By FITCamaro on 10/10/2013 8:19:37 AM , Rating: 2
Definitely don't have problems with glare in my house. Noise? Don't hear any. Even with the sound off. Heat and power consumption are valid. But its not like the TV heats up the room in my opinion.


RE: Too bad
By celestialgrave on 10/9/2013 11:48:57 AM , Rating: 2
I agree with Bug77, the differences are definitely there. I still can't stand watching a LCD, the soap opera effect is headache inducing. Love my Pioneer Plasma, sad to see the next best thing bite the dust too. Here's to OLED bringing the best of both worlds.


RE: Too bad
By 3DoubleD on 10/9/2013 12:51:47 PM , Rating: 2
+1


RE: Too bad
By sheh on 10/9/2013 5:49:02 PM , Rating: 2
The Soap Opera effect is due to image interpolation or other meddling, not the panel type.


RE: Too bad
By althaz on 10/9/2013 6:12:00 PM , Rating: 2
No, the differences are as bigger than they've ever been, because modern plasmas acheive true black (old plasmas emit no light from a grey screen, which is not the same) and have far, far superior colour range and reproduction. Samsung's LCD TVs have the highest contrast of any and they are not able to acheive 1% of the contrast of the best plasma TVs.

With Panasonic shutting down their plasma business the very best on the market is no longer available, thankfully Samsung (and reportedly LG as well, although I've only seen their low-end and midrange sets, which are awful) still makes well performing products (their Series 8 model plasmas are superb).

Hopefully my current Plasma TV lasts until OLED TVs are better and more commonplace.


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