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Features is not yet triggered, presumably may be turned on shortly

A teardown of the upcoming update to Gmail for Android -- Gmail 4.6 -- revealed numerous confirmations that ads lay lurking in the update from Google Inc. (GOOG), as well as showcasing some welcome improvements.

Notably Android Police found strings, 8 classes, and even a full library with "Ad" in their names in the Gmail APK.  A big question left unanswered by the teardown is whether the feature will harass users with fake email ads, a feature added in a recent controversial update to the desktop browser client, or simply ad normal banner ads like those found in many free (ad-supported) Android games.

The Droid Guy is claiming the changelog for Gmail 4.6 hints that the new mobile ads will be in the form of email spam.

Gmail 4.6 Gmail unsent Gmail 4.6
Gmail 4.6 [Image Source: Android Police]
 

The update does bring some welcome changes in a heavy overhaul to the Gmail card, including a warning about unset messages, new icons for contacts you don't have a picture of (a stylish letter from their first initial), and darker UI icons.

Gmail 4.6 Gmail auto picture
left: Before the autopicture; right: After the update. [Image Source: Android Police]

The reviewers were indifferent or perhaps slightly negative on the decision to do away with the "cancel" button in the email "send" dialogue, which now requires you to press the "back" button (beneath the screen) to cancel.

Most Android users should get the tile "upgrade" sometime later this week, bringing their freeloading mobile Gmail days to an end.

Sources: Android Police, The Droid Guy



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Just another reason
By jeepga on 9/30/2013 5:01:45 PM , Rating: 3
Granted the article is pretty speculative, but this sounds like just another justification for me leaving the platform.

I've been slowly eliminating my Google presence. And that should be completed in January or February when I switch away from Android.




RE: Just another reason
By daboom06 on 9/30/2013 5:09:36 PM , Rating: 5
i, for one, welcome our new google overlords.


RE: Just another reason
By konman795 on 9/30/2013 5:13:42 PM , Rating: 4
So are you going to bring back AskJeeves and MapQuest. More power to you!


RE: Just another reason
By MechanicalTechie on 9/30/2013 9:47:36 PM , Rating: 2
I'm puttin my money on Duckduckgo :)


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/1/2013 11:08:02 AM , Rating: 1
I find Bing is as Good as Google on search now and Yahoo could even make a comeback.

Nokia Maps is better than Google Maps.
Nokia downloads the entire trip onto the mobile device saving data usage also it doesn't require a constant data connection.

They also have an online Map system.
http://here.com/

Keep in Mind Microsoft is purchasing Nokia and Microsoft has the patent on excluding bad neighborhoods from travel/mapping applications.


RE: Just another reason
By MattCoz on 10/1/2013 11:13:06 AM , Rating: 2
Yahoo beat Google to putting ads in their app.


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/1/2013 11:30:57 AM , Rating: 1
If history has anything to say is that Search Engines come and go and Google search is getting kind of boring its also the target of every spammer out there. They have some of the best algorithms bar none but once the spammers figure Google out its back to being a mess. This will of course happen to the best of search engines but Google is becoming boring and way to aggressive with the spam cramming it into every nook and cranny they can to the point where its becoming annoying to use their products.


RE: Just another reason
By bug77 on 10/1/2013 12:06:49 PM , Rating: 2
So... your money is on someone else providing free email, search, docs, maps, whatever WITHOUT ads?


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/1/2013 1:14:18 PM , Rating: 3
No what Im saying is if the ads become invasive enough that it feels like you can never get to the data your looking for you wind up going somewhere else being less invasive.

I use IMDB significantly less than I used to for movie trailers because of the repetitive and frequent 30 second ads I have to sit through before I can watch the movie trailer. If the movie company wants to get me to see their movie pay to have the ads removed and let me watch the trailer. I get through 3 movie trailers on IMDB before I give up and go elsewhere because of the commercials. The Movie trailers are already commercials why do I have to sit through a commercial to watch a commercial?

I dont use HULU anymore and I use VIPTV.NET now because of all the commercials ruin shows on Hulu. I paid for the programming to be streamed I didnt pay for the commercials.

If google gets too invasive with the ads people will go elsewhere. Outlook.com has ads but they are off to the side much less invasive to me using e-mail.

Facebook has gotten extremely annoying with the inline ads that I'm using Facebook less and less.

How many people wont use DT without an ad blocker in place because you can overdue it with the ads. We even saw a screenshot a while back of a DT Author and they were using firefox with an ad blocker.

The assumption of more ads = more revenue reaches a point where its counter productive and people move on. I have a message in my google mailbox right now on how I can be more effective with google ads by putting multiple rows of them on my sites. Its right next to the e-mail about site performance which when you measure my site performance the slowest item to display is the ads and they want me to put more of them up.


RE: Just another reason
By bug77 on 10/1/2013 6:09:10 PM , Rating: 2
You do realize we're talking about Google here, don't you? There's not a single product they have that has intrusive ads. And not by chance, it's because they're trying hard not to be invasive.
Yes, it's not impossible that will change in the future, but complaining about it now seems a little far fetched.


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/1/2013 1:50:10 PM , Rating: 2
It's Mitch, so of course he's going to come off anti-Google.

I guess Google has become "boring" the same way that the refrigerator or sidewalk has. It's like an appliance at this point, but that's not a bad thing necessarily, is it? It's a search engine, I don't need it to be sexy or exciting, just reliable.


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/1/2013 3:38:22 PM , Rating: 1
Its Reclaimer hes going to come off anything thats not google or samsung.

How has Google changed in the last X years its the same thing except you can buy your rank instead of earn it.


RE: Just another reason
By ritualm on 10/1/2013 7:10:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
How has Google changed in the last X years its the same thing except you can buy your rank instead of earn it.

Every other company does the same thing. Want more favorable treatment? Pay more money. It's not the same as bribery, but it's getting there.

Your arguments are null.


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/2/2013 12:18:23 AM , Rating: 2
We can call it what it is its bribery and deceitful business practices.

'This Post Is Sponsored by Google': Google Caught (Gasp) Buying Links?
http://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2012/01/06/googl...


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/2/2013 12:28:27 AM , Rating: 2
It's amazing what passes for a controversy these days lol. Bribery and deceit, why stop there? Accuse them of murder while you're at it.


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/1/2013 11:25:15 PM , Rating: 2
Could you possibly be more transparent in your ignorance and hate?

Google has changed MUCH in the last X years, some for the better some not. On the fly language translation? Ability to viewed a cached website? Navigation maps to locations directly in the search page?

These are just a few off the top of my head. Why is it so important to you that Google seem "boring" and unchanging to you anyway?


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/2/2013 12:15:48 AM , Rating: 2
I expect nothing less from you because anything anti-reclaimer likes is always ignorance, hate, or must work for them. Your comments are old and predictable.

Google the search engine is getting stale its good at what it does then every couple months they have to change the algorithm to try and defeat spam. It should be evolving more.

Its like Microsoft doing the same thing it gets old and feels dated that's what Google search feels like it needs an overhaul or a facelift.


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/2/2013 12:45:30 AM , Rating: 2
Speaking just for myself, 99% of all my Google searches are done via my browsers search bar. I hardly ever actually visit the Google homepage, so a "facelift" wouldn't mean a thing to me. What matters to me is the search results, as useful as possible, as fast as possible.

You seem to be just throwing a lot of opinions and hyperbole at the issue. Instead of just arbitrarily saying that Google is "stale", can you actually suggest what it is they should do? Some feature or something? I would honestly be interested in some substance.

quote:
every couple months they have to change the algorithm to try and defeat spam. It should be evolving more.


Uhh would you rather they NOT fight spam??

Either you're really bad at articulating what exactly you would like to see from Google, or you're going out of your way to find negatives. Considering the source, my money is on the latter of those two.


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/2/2013 8:42:13 AM , Rating: 2
See you in a few years when Google starts losing market share and starts cloning everyone else who's moving forward beyond boring text searches that google provides today.


RE: Just another reason
By retrospooty on 10/2/2013 8:48:33 AM , Rating: 2
Sounds alot like MS today. ;)


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/2/2013 9:14:26 AM , Rating: 2
If something better than Google comes out, then I'll switch to it. Duh?

I don't use Google because of their market share or stock price or their namesake.

Are you even hearing yourself?


RE: Just another reason
By Mitch101 on 10/2/2013 6:33:49 PM , Rating: 2
Your so transparent and full of crap its not worth communicating with you.


RE: Just another reason
By EricMartello on 10/6/2013 6:04:52 AM , Rating: 2
So your whole anti-google tirade revolves around you having a problem with them making money by inserting ads into products and services they offer to people for free?

It seems to me that your ire should be directed toward the total lack of legal protection for email as a communication medium. The misguided "war on spam" that every nerd seems to feel justified in participating in is effectively a form of censorship.

Why?

"Spam" isn't defined specifically, and one man's spam is another man's email that he was waiting for and never got...so the very notion that people are complaining about "ad spam" being inserted by google or receiving "spam email" they claim they "never signed up for" is a load of crap in both cases because they got exactly what they asked for.

The transmission of any email that is not perpetuating an illegal activity should be legally protected from any kind of invasive scans by the service providers or any intermediary networks.

All emails to and from google or any other email service provider are scanned - and this is what allows the ads to be injected in the first place.

If you want your emails to remain private, unauthorized content scanning needs to be made illegal under law, so that the next time google or yahoo decide to scan your email under the guise of "stopping spam" (but in reality to show you ads based on the content of the email message) you can file a lawsuit against them for interfering with private communications.


RE: Just another reason
By jeepga on 9/30/2013 11:58:03 PM , Rating: 1
I get really good results from Bing for my search.

I used to do both Bing and Google at the same time. But, after a while I was satisfied with the consistently good results from Bing. Occasionally, I'm not and I do a Google search, but rarely do I get anything better. But even then I don't have to logon to do search and I use Tracking Protection in my browser with "Stop Google Tracking" rules.


RE: Just another reason
By coburn_c on 10/1/2013 1:27:58 AM , Rating: 2
I don't get good results from bing. Quick product searches, media info, etc. just don't return the usable results I am used to from google. I don't know if it's their personalization or what, but it always returns just the site I want for the category I search, and up top. Although the recent replacing of wikipedia side box results with google+ nonsense is annoying.


RE: Just another reason
By StevoLincolnite on 10/1/2013 6:47:36 AM , Rating: 2
Years ago, Google used to be excellent.

For example if you were to google some obscure piece of computer hardware that wasn't really common, you were almost guaranteed to get what you want.

Fast forward to today and most of the results you get are from shopping sites.
Granted you can remove those searches by adding "-shopping -buy -store -shop" etc' after your search phrases, but it's a pain and not guaranteed to remove the shopping spam that plagues searches.


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/1/2013 1:57:41 PM , Rating: 1
Sounds like you just don't know how to Google properly. You should be adding a suffix to the end of your search to be more specific, like "review" or "statistics" or "opinion".

Google uses algorithms, it's not psychic.

You got less "shopping spam" in the past because people didn't shop as much online in the past. Now those shopping sites are becoming more relevant, and relevance is a big part of Google's algorithms, so you get more shopping results.


RE: Just another reason
By Flunk on 10/1/2013 7:56:42 AM , Rating: 2
It really depends on what you're looking for. I normally use Google but if that fails I give Bing a shot and it quite often works. They're both fairly good but the algorithms seen quite different.


RE: Just another reason
By ClownPuncher on 10/1/2013 3:09:46 PM , Rating: 2
I can pretty much always find everything I search for on either. The idea that there are so many search engine fanboys out there is incredibly confusing. People actually use it as a status symbol. You will be widely ridiculed based on your browser or search engine choices.


RE: Just another reason
By RufusM on 9/30/2013 5:24:31 PM , Rating: 3
Do you really expect that the free GMail service wouldn't have advertising in it?

You can always spend $60/year for Google Apps and eliminate the ads.


RE: Just another reason
By Motoman on 9/30/2013 5:49:21 PM , Rating: 3
Or just not use Gmail.

I've always found it terribly offensive that you can't even *use* an Android device without a Gmail account...or at least, unless you want to spend your life sideloading things I guess.


RE: Just another reason
By xti on 9/30/2013 5:59:23 PM , Rating: 2
i got a primeCo phone here you can have.


RE: Just another reason
By Motoman on 9/30/2013 7:19:39 PM , Rating: 3
No, you can hold onto that gem. We're up to our eyeballs in Android devices around here...all of them with the requisite Gmail accounts attached to them.

We just hate the fact that Google forces Gmail down your throat when you get an Android device, when there's not the slightest possible justification for doing so. It's kind of...evil.


RE: Just another reason
By quiksilvr on 9/30/2013 9:15:46 PM , Rating: 3
I'm going to stop you right here. You don't HAVE to set up your GMail account and install apps from the Google Play store if you don't want to. Nothing is stopping you from finding apks online, downloading them and installing them.

In fact (at least on OEM Android), you can disable ALL Google Apps (that's right, all of them) if you don't want to use their services.

You don't have to sign into YouTube to use it. You don't have to set up with your account upon initialization (I've done this before with a gift. I set up the phone without any account because I wanted to optimize settings and install Android 4.1 on it before giving it to them).

So essentially everything you are saying is wrong. You can be Google free and use an Android device no problem.


RE: Just another reason
By Solandri on 9/30/2013 9:35:31 PM , Rating: 4
You don't even need to sideload apps, at least not after the first one. You can sideload a different app store and get your apps from that instead of Google's Play store. e.g. download the Amazon app store app from their website, install it, and get all the apps you want off Amazon's store. Though (horror of horrors) you'll need an Amazon account to use their web store. The nerve of these app store companies, requiring you to have an ID and login so you can make purchases.

I upgraded (and returned) my phone recently, and decided not to give it my gmail login before I'd decided whether I was going to keep the phone. I can assure you, you can use the phone just fine without a gmail account. The only thing that requires the gmail account is the Play store and contacts/data sync with gmail, google docs, etc. If you want to use a different way to backup your contacts, read your email, check your calendar, etc, there are plenty of alternatives out there. You'll just have to go through the work of setting them all up. It's not Google's responsibility to do that for you, it's yours and the developer of the app you decide to use.


RE: Just another reason
By Motoman on 10/1/2013 10:08:53 AM , Rating: 3
Please. By that same token, technically I don't *need* to rely on software developers to compile their programs before putting them on disk either - I could compile them myself. No big deal.

If you want to participate normally in the Android world, you have to set up that Gmail account.

As I noted above already, sure, you can sideload apps. Or maybe sideload some 3rd-part app store thing. But then you're out in the cold for the normal methods of developers getting their apps to you...you can't necessarily count on any given app being available from said 3rd party app store. You're functional...but you're not really participating in the Android environment.

quote:
The nerve of these app store companies, requiring you to have an ID and login so you can make purchases.


I'm not making "purchases" - I've never spent actual money on an app. Not that it matters anyway...and it's not the same as like using Newegg or Amazon on a PC. If I blunder by any given web browser, I can browse around on Newegg.com...and if I don't decide to buy anything, I can just leave. If I *do* decide to buy something, *then* I have to log in. Which is perfectly understandable, because at that point a transaction has been requested (by me) and Newegg needs to know who I am.

If Newegg worked that way on a PC, you'd have to set up a Newegg account before you could ever use your PC in the first place, and you'd always be logged in to the Newegg server, no matter what you were doing, and Newegg would always know what you were up to.

It's just shady.


RE: Just another reason
By Solandri on 10/1/2013 2:32:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If you want to participate normally in the Android world, you have to set up that Gmail account.

Well, you're free to believe whatever you want to believe even if it's wrong. The Kindles use Android, but are locked to the Amazon store. You can't install the Google Play store without rooting them. They seem to be selling just fine. Hardly dysfunctional without a gmail account as you claim.

quote:
As I noted above already, sure, you can sideload apps. Or maybe sideload some 3rd-part app store thing. But then you're out in the cold for the normal methods of developers getting their apps to you...you can't necessarily count on any given app being available from said 3rd party app store.

The smart developers have figured out they can offer their apps both in the Play store and on their website. Thinking that everything is only available in the Play store is an iOS-ism, where Apple locks you in and gives you only one way to get apps onto your device. That's not how Android works.


RE: Just another reason
By Motoman on 10/1/2013 10:12:47 AM , Rating: 2
Right, so because you're willing and able to go through all that BS, everyone is willing and able to go through all that BS. <rolleyes>

I never said I wanted to be "Google free." I said I found it offensive that you have to open a Gmail account. Unless, as I already noted, you want to start doing things for yourself (like sideloading apps).


RE: Just another reason
By retrospooty on 10/1/2013 10:35:56 AM , Rating: 3
What Platform exists that you do not have to create an account to load apps? They all have it. Apple, Google, BB, WP, even Palm had it. It HAS to have an account with your info so it knows what apps you bought. Using Gmail is an option. No-one has to use it, but an account needs to exist to operate. There is no way around that on any platform.

Dont like Gmail, dont use it. Plain and simple. Why all the fuss?


RE: Just another reason
By Solandri on 10/1/2013 2:48:38 PM , Rating: 2
I think he's complaining that Google has one account which links so many different things together (android phone, gmail, google docs/calendar, google+, youtube, etc).

While yes that's worse from a privacy standpoint, I think it's the lesser of two evils. Since all these Google services are offered by the same company with the same terms and conditions, I'd rather have one account to login to them all, than a dozen different accounts for each different service. Not only is a single account a lot easier on my password memory, it makes cross-linking services a lot easier. If I tap a phone number in a text message I got on my phone, it can cross-reference my gmail contacts, find the number and person, and let me schedule a calendar appointment with said person, and send him an email confirming my appointment. If all those Google accounts were separate, I'd have to login 3 extra times and manually link those 4 apps together to get that cross-functionality to work.


RE: Just another reason
By Motoman on 10/1/2013 10:18:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What Platform exists that you do not have to create an account to load apps?


Well, Windows for one. Do you need a Microsoft account to use Windows Update? Or to download or otherwise install any kind of application? No?

quote:
It HAS to have an account with your info so it knows what apps you bought


No it doesn't. For one thing, it could just be left up to the user to be the caretaker of their downloads...like in Windows. Secondly...why not let someone use an EXISTING email account they have - regardless of the provider? There's no possible need for a Gmail account if you already have existing email accounts from other services. Just let consumers plug in their existing email address. Done.

quote:
No-one has to use it, but an account needs to exist to operate.


No, it doesn't. Again, Windows. Explain to me how the world has managed to survive for the past 20 years with online updates, downloaded programs, so on and so forth in the Windows environment if there's "no way" for a system to operate without accounts.

quote:
There is no way around that on any platform.


Did I mention Windows? Or for that matter, probably Mac OSs too. Maybe even Linux. Dunno. But for you to even say such a stupid thing is ridiculously terrifying and funny at the same time.


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/1/2013 11:17:53 PM , Rating: 2
Windows? If a PC OS is the basis of your argument here, you're more confused than I thought.

quote:
There's no possible need for a Gmail account if you already have existing email accounts from other services. Just let consumers plug in their existing email address. Done.


How many times do people have to tell you? You need a Google account, not a Gmail account. They just throw Gmail in with it. Guess what? You don't even have to set up Gmail. NOBODY is forcing you to use Gmail. Why can't you understand this?

quote:
Secondly...why not let someone use an EXISTING email account they have - regardless of the provider?


Why not at least search for the possibility instead of assuming you can't?

http://lifehacker.com/5877927/how-to-sign-up-for-a...


RE: Just another reason
By retrospooty on 10/2/2013 1:59:15 PM , Rating: 2
"Well, Windows for one. Do you need a Microsoft account to use Windows Update? "

We are talking about mobile OS's here. Not legacy PC stuff with CDROM's.- You do need it for IOS, WP8,Android, BB10, even WebOS... For that matter, even Metro UI on W8 needs it to save your settings and get Metro apps. This is just the way it is. It's not my doing bro.

As for the rest of your post, I dont think you are grasping a few important things here...

#1 - You dont have to use GMAIL at all, ever. You can even uninstall it

#2 - MOBILE OS - look into it. All of your arguments are comparing 20 year old legacy systems against modern mobile OS's and are therefore not comparable. Please, name me a mobile platform that can do this without creating an account.

Even on Windows you cant sync info to the cloud without SOME sort of an account FFS. Think about what you are saying.


RE: Just another reason
By piroroadkill on 10/2/2013 4:24:03 AM , Rating: 2
I use Android, but don't use my Gmail account. I have it set never to sync the email.

I use a completely different email application and provider.


RE: Just another reason
By amanojaku on 9/30/13, Rating: 0
RE: Just another reason
By Omega215D on 9/30/2013 6:55:11 PM , Rating: 2
I guess there will be a market for the BlackBerry Z30 after all.


RE: Just another reason
By amanojaku on 9/30/2013 11:50:10 PM , Rating: 2
If you're referring to me, no. I only got the BlackBerry because it was supplied by my employer. This was back in 2005 or so. I saw the progression from Palm Treo to Rim BlackBerry to Nokia Nseries to Apple iPhone to Google Android, and I still wasn't interested.

It's not a manufacturer problem, it's a fundamental issue: smartphones are too damn small. I am not interested in playing video games or watching movies on a tiny screen. I have a 46" HDTV, one of the first LED backlit models. Before that, I had a 61" rear-projection. Now that LEDs are relatively cheap, a 60" model is less expensive than what I paid for my current TV.

Same thing for music. I never liked listening to music through headphones or tiny speakers. I bought the Klipsch Pro Media 5.1 when it was still awesome. Then I switched to a 5.1 receiver and floor standing speakers. I gave up on mobile audio after owning a Sony CD player and two iPods. They just weren't satisfying. Plus, I started losing my hearing.

Tablets don't do it for me, either. They would be ok for books, but I have my TV for that. When I'm on the road, I like to do things that don't require technology, like sports and drinking. And chasing women.

Sure, it's convenient to be able to check email when I'm on the road, but none of my email is that important now that I'm out of the technology business. It's cool to see where things are going, but it's not necessary for me to have the latest toys. Except for my home theater. ;)


RE: Just another reason
By Omega215D on 10/1/2013 1:32:56 AM , Rating: 2
Well, not really just you but for anyone that may/ will have a problem with the full on Google ecosystem there's, thankfully for now, Blackberry with their upcoming and very capable (spec-wise) Z30. Though it's tough to see how long they'll last at this point.

There's also WP, provided they continue to gain more support from outside devs.


RE: Just another reason
By Motoman on 9/30/2013 7:17:58 PM , Rating: 3
Of course. Or, just set up an email client app - like the one that comes with Android anyway.

I have never used the Gmail account that Google forced me to create when I first got an android phone...same is true of my brother, my wife, etc.

It's not that Gmail does or doesn't do anything else that some other email service can or can't do...or vice-versa. I just hate the fact that they force one upon you in order to use an Android device in the first place.


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/1/2013 1:03:37 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I've always found it terribly offensive that you can't even *use* an Android device without a Gmail account..


You can't use ANY smartphone platform without an account of some sort. Why do you insist on spreading this FUD?

It's not even half correct. You don't have to use Gmail to use Android. But you at least need a Google account, so the app store knows what your phone is! This is how EVERYONE else does things too (Apple, Microsoft, Blackberry).

Please tell me what platform allows you to install apps or get updates without being signed into some account? I really want to know.

The only thing that makes sense in your post is the bit about sideloading. Which at least Android supports out of the box without requiring a root/jailbreak.


RE: Just another reason
By Omega215D on 9/30/2013 6:01:55 PM , Rating: 3
I thought Google already mined Gmail contacts and email for profit.

I actually have a great dislike for Google and Android after hearing Google decided to partner up with Duracell's wireless power while their Nexus phones use the Qi standard and as of right now can be built in without buying any more crap.

Then there's the recent Google Search screw up in which search results are becoming less relevant and more ad filled, and they're taking their time with Google Maps after screwing it up in the latest update.


RE: Just another reason
By Roffles on 9/30/2013 6:00:09 PM , Rating: 1
the problem i'm having with this news is the limited screen size of phones and most tablets... advertisements can only be a negative here. now that ad blockers have been banned from the android market, this seems like the gradual progression of google trying to shove advertisements down our throats.

surely google understands some of us HATE ads enough to root our devices and remove them? so adding advertisements to a core application seems like deliberately stepping on toes. keep in mind that a personal e-mail address is what most people use to manager their lives. i will probably find myself annoyed to the point of dropping the platform if i'm nagged by advertisements when mentally digesting my receipts, bills, family news, business decisions, social calls etcetera. it's just not the right platform for advertisements. bad move google, bad move if it's true.


RE: Just another reason
By ERROR666 on 9/30/2013 6:17:49 PM , Rating: 2
if you're smart enough to root your device you're probably smart enough to download adaway even if it's not in googlePlay. Or use something like LuckyPatcher to get rid of ads on application level.
I'm not saying that ads are good to have. I'm just saying that there are ways to deal with the problem and the fact that google removed ad blockers from the market means nothing.

I would like to drop google and gmail just because of the security risks, but unfortunately I don't see any alternatives. Using android without using google is nonsense.


RE: Just another reason
By Janooo on 9/30/2013 6:53:01 PM , Rating: 2
I am considering the same.
I am pissed with those little green droids popping up on my phone. I don't know how to prevent that.
It's crazy!


RE: Just another reason
By bug77 on 10/1/2013 7:13:16 AM , Rating: 2
Can you elaborate on what you're replacing Google with? And why? I'm really curious.


RE: Just another reason
By Reclaimer77 on 10/1/2013 9:31:27 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Granted the article is pretty speculative


If by speculative you mean nearly fictional, you would be right.

This is a pure hatchet job on Google. The bias is pretty clear.

There isn't a single shred of solid evidence to support the premise, not a one. But it's succeeded in getting everyone page-clicking to a frenzy, pitchforks in hand.

If this was a Windows Phone update, the author would be all aflutter over the improvements. Instead here we get a quick blurb about the improvements, which are significant, while continuing the "omg Google is so evil" rhetoric.


RE: Just another reason
By ClownPuncher on 10/1/2013 3:19:04 PM , Rating: 1
Mick is a WP8 fanboy now? I can't even keep up with who likes who, who hates who, and who said what behind that bitches back.


RE: Just another reason
By rsmech on 10/1/2013 10:07:34 PM , Rating: 2
By bias do you mean 2 different sources finding it in the code or bias in that someone would be foolish to think they would implement the same ad technology into their mobile platform they did to their browser platform.

I ser your point, they really are stretching thongs a bit.

All sarcasm aside. Google makes their money off ads. To assume otherwise is foolishness. It's not to say there is anything wrong with Android,it's a very capable mobile os. Just don't kid yourself. Like Facebook Google needs to make money also and this is their core business, collecting info and selling it first and foremost.


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