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GTA V Vine Leaks  (Source: Gizmodo)
If you're going to leak footage, be smart enough to remove move your gamer tag from the video

A gamer going by the name of was able to get his hands on an early copy of GTA V ahead of its launch. Exactly how he was able to get hands on the early copy is unknown. The braggart wasn't happy simply inviting a few friends over and playing the game before most people got their hands on it; he instead decided to make hordes of short Vine videos in order to gain internet notoriety.

The problem with this plan was that he apparently left his Gamertag clearly visible in at least one of the videos he made. As a result, Microsoft banned his Xbox console for life from Xbox Live.

What that means is while he will be able to play off-line games on his console; he'll have to buy a new one to be able to access Xbox Live. He will also lose any achievements and other content associated with that Gamertag.


Rockstar has a very cut and dry policy on this sort of thing. The policy reads, "Pre-Release Footage: No pre-release leaked footage of any kind: Any posting of in-game footage from leaked copies of the game prior to its official release date will be taken down, regardless of how the game was obtained. This includes “early unboxing” videos."

At the time of writing, we were unable to get any of the video clips on Vine to launch. We don't know if that means they were taken down or if there's just so much traffic that the videos are unavailable. Indications are that the short videos show off the inside of houses, in-game smartphone, shooting mechanics, and much more.
 
GTA 5 set to officially launch tomorrow.

Sources: The Sixth Axis, VG247, Gizmodo



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RE: Great
By Veero on 9/16/2013 11:10:16 AM , Rating: -1
From section F of their code of conduct that everyone that uses Xbox Live agrees to:

"F. Cheating & Tampering

Do not cheat in a game unless cheats have been deliberately enabled by the developer.
Do not use unauthorized hardware or modifications to gain an advantage or disrupt the competitive landscape of Xbox Live.
Do not exploit game vulnerabilities or glitches.
Do not make unauthorized modifications to your account profile or its contents, to include but not limited to: tenure, Avatar, gamesaves, or Gamerscore.
Do not intentionally play with someone who is using unauthorized software or methods.
Do not play any illegitimately obtained software or pirated games.
Do not take any action to cause degradation of service for Microsoft or other users.
Do not play a game before it has been authorized for play on the service."

Since he is presumably not a game journalist, or works for Rock Star, pretty much any other way he obtained it was illegitimately. They did not brick his console, just made it unusable with their online service, which anytime you do something to violate their Code of Conduct you run the risk of banishment.

BTW, Sony has the same type of thing with their Code of Conduct. It is listed under section 7 Code of Conduct:

" l. Uploading, posting, streaming, accessing or otherwise transmitting any content that you know or should have known infringes or violates any third-party rights, any law or regulation or contractual or fiduciary obligations; "

In this case, definitely broke a third party policy as stated in the article.

So this is not a MS or Sony thing, pretty much any online gaming service you use has something similar listed in their Code of Conduct. Since 99.9% of people just scroll through everything and select "I agree" to every single terms of use/code of conduct that pops up when signing up for services or installing something, most people never know until they are hit with some sort of punishment. This is the user's responsibility to know what they can and cannot do with a service they are using.


RE: Great
By bug77 on 9/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: Great
By ClownPuncher on 9/16/2013 11:53:08 AM , Rating: 5
You already do. You can't hit your wife with it.


RE: Great
By ClownPuncher on 9/16/13, Rating: -1
RE: Great
By Souka on 9/16/2013 12:06:00 PM , Rating: 2
Heh... so he'll sell the xBox to someone on Craigslist, then go get another.


RE: Great
By ClownPuncher on 9/16/13, Rating: -1
RE: Great
By ClownPuncher on 9/17/2013 12:06:24 PM , Rating: 1
Wow, we got a bunch of console turds with panties in wads.


RE: Great
By MrBlastman on 9/16/2013 3:27:21 PM , Rating: 2
Well you can... but... It depends if she's into that sort of thing or not. Or the hammer is deep into her. Oh. Nevermind. I'll shut up now. :)


RE: Great
By seamonkey79 on 9/16/2013 5:57:28 PM , Rating: 2
Whether I would or not doesn't matter... he DID agree to them.

If you don't agree to do something, then don't do it and complain later when the limits you agreed to happen to you, just because you don't 'agree' with them after the fact.


RE: Great
By hughlle on 9/16/2013 11:45:36 AM , Rating: 5
While i don't know where he got it, chances are it was from amazon, given that they started sending games out early. As such it cannot be categorized as obtained illegitimately, or that it is pirated, and the ban would have to be reversed.


RE: Great
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/16/2013 12:45:31 PM , Rating: 3
And if he did get it from Amazon, I would expect the ban to be reversed here soon.


RE: Great
By Sazabi19 on 9/16/13, Rating: 0
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By Cheesew1z69 on 9/16/2013 2:06:14 PM , Rating: 2
And again, that would be on Amazon sending it OUT before the RELEASE date...that's not the customers fault.


RE: Great
By DJMiggy on 9/16/2013 2:21:35 PM , Rating: 2
He probably downloaded it.....


RE: Great
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/16/2013 3:05:04 PM , Rating: 3
And if he did, that's on him.


RE: Great
By xti on 9/16/2013 3:13:50 PM , Rating: 2
and he did it knowing exactly that it wasnt out yet and only h should be accountable.

and kicked in the nuts.


RE: Great
By hughlle on 9/17/2013 8:53:02 AM , Rating: 2
If he bought it on amazon, and amazon delivered it to him, then it has clearly been released to him. If it was indeed an amazon copy, i don't know, then it is amazons issue, not his. His contract was money for a game, amazon took his money and gave him his game. deal done. Amazons contract with the developer and producers, that would have been no distribution until a certain date. Amazon breached it's contract with it's supplier, not the guy who got the game.

It all depends on how he got the game though. until then we can just speculate on whether he was in the wrong or not.


RE: Great
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/17/2013 10:41:29 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If he bought it on amazon, and amazon delivered it to him, then it has clearly been released to him. If it was indeed an amazon copy, i don't know, then it is amazons issue, not his. His contract was money for a game, amazon took his money and gave him his game. deal done. Amazons contract with the developer and producers, that would have been no distribution until a certain date. Amazon breached it's contract with it's supplier, not the guy who got the game.
Exactly, some people here, like the one you replied too, are to boneheaded to understand this.


RE: Great
By xti on 9/19/2013 4:38:01 PM , Rating: 2
some people like you, who stalks men, make excuses for people and let them get off from knowing right and wrong.

He shouldn't have uploaded the viewo. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing, he wanted to show off because he knew he had early access.

did amazon screw up? yes.
Did the screw up? also yes.


RE: Great
By Sazabi19 on 9/16/13, Rating: -1
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By Morvannec on 9/18/2013 1:31:31 PM , Rating: 2
Don't know why you've been rated down when you're right. A lot of people here are fixating on the "he got it early" bit and consequently saying it's Amazon's fault (assuming he got it from them), which is not the issue.

The issue is he broke XBox Live ToS by posting game play footage of an as yet officially unreleased game, which is what Microsoft have punished him for.

Whether or not the punishment is too harsh is another debate.


RE: Great
By Motoman on 9/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: Great
By Fleeb on 9/16/13, Rating: -1
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By Dug on 9/16/2013 4:20:41 PM , Rating: 3
This wouldn't hold up anywhere in a court of law.

" l. Uploading, posting, streaming, accessing or otherwise transmitting any content that you know or should have known infringes or violates any third-party rights, any law or regulation or contractual or fiduciary obligations; "

It doesn't infringe or violate third-party rights. You have to research what rights a third-party has.
There is no such thing as a law or regulation or contractual obligation for showing software he purchased.

He is not under NDA, he did not acquire the software illegally. If the software has a disclaimer that you can not use it or show it before a certain day, then it needs to be clearly stated on the packaging or in the description when he bought it. I'm sure neither of these is true, as I don't even see it on their website.


RE: Great
By SPOOFE on 9/16/2013 4:59:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This wouldn't hold up anywhere in a court of law

Which would become a relevant observation if this ever sees the inside of a courtroom.


RE: Great
By Flunk on 9/16/2013 5:03:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
he did not acquire the software illegally


That hasn't actually been proved yet, Microsoft routinely bans people for using pirated pre-release software.


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