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Samsung wants to stay on its A game to beat Apple

Samsung sees that Apple is making an aggressive push into China, and will pump up the competition with powerful new 64-bit Galaxy products in order to keep Apple at bay. 

Shin Jong-kyun, Samsung’s mobile business chief, confirmed that Samsung wants to expand its business in the Chinese smartphone market during a meeting in Seocho-dong, southern Seoul.
“Samsung understands that Apple intends to boost its mobile business in China, as well as in Japan, meaning that we should try harder in these countries,” said shin.

Apple will sell its latest iPhones through China Unicom and China Telecom while also talking with China Mobile, which has a customer base over twice the size of the U.S. population. In fact, Chinese regulators gave the final required license for the iPhone to work on China Mobile Ltd's mobile network this week.

Samsung Galaxy S IV

Samsung plans to pursue the market with competitive products in hopes of swaying users from buying Apple's iPhones. For instance, Shin said the next set of Samsung Galaxy smartphones would feature 64-bit processors for more power and speed.

“Not in the shortest time. But yes, our next smartphones will have 64-bit processing functionality,” said Shin.

In addition, Samsung will hold a launch event for its latest 5.7-inch Galaxy Note 3 "phablet" in China.

Apple, on the other hand, just recently announced its iPhone 5S, which also features a 64-bit processor (the ARM-based A7). This will offer the market a high-end smartphone with enough power to run complex games and applications. 
As of the end of the second quarter, Samsung was the top smartphone seller in China with 19.4 percent of the market while Apple’s share was just 4.3 percent.

Source: The Korea Times

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RE: 64 bit android?
By extide on 9/12/2013 4:36:54 PM , Rating: 2
Yes... duh you CAN guarantee they are doing the same because they are all implementing ARMv8 not some custom one off ISA... lol

RE: 64 bit android?
By Monkey's Uncle on 9/12/2013 6:26:20 PM , Rating: 2
Did you read my reply in the context in which it was written?

The person I responded to was making generalized statements regarding 32 on 64-bit support. My response was a refute to that generalization. It most certainly is not a given that 32-bit apps or OS will be supported on a 64-bit processor except under very specific circumstances (duh!). Does Intel's IA32 applications run on an IA64 processor? Absolutely not! But IA-32 does run natively on an AMD64 processor.

Why is that?

In order to provide 32 bit support on a 64-bit processor, you have to build that processor as a superset of the original 32-bit processor. In the Intel world, IA-32 and IA-64 are very different architectures even though the names are very similar.

As you rightfully mention ARMv8 is a superset if the previous 32-bit ARMv7 architecture. Because the ARMv8 includes the A64 instruction set, those instructions are used to provide the compatibility layer necessary to run 32-bit ARMv7-based Apps and system software.

That 32-bit compatibility does not arrive for free in the generalized world. The ability for provide backward full hardware level 32-bit compatibility must be designed in as a ikntegral part of the 64-bit processor core architecture.

In Arm and Intel/AMD's cases that has been done by extending the earlier architectures and allowing mode switching between the hardware modes. It is not correct to generalize that all 64-bit processors will be backward compatible with their forerunners as seen in the IA-32/IA-64 scenario.

RE: 64 bit android?
By extide on 9/13/2013 1:05:57 PM , Rating: 2
This is a smartphone article, about smartphone cpu's and smartphone OS's. I thought it was pretty obvious.

RE: 64 bit android?
By Monkey's Uncle on 9/13/2013 1:18:14 PM , Rating: 2
Obvious or not, it stopped being all about embedded micro architectures when the guy posted this as a part of his bashing:
We already saw this with x86-64 CPUs running 32-bit Windows and drivers.

Thing is I am not so much calling out his generalizations but rather kicking him in the ass for bashing others with them. If he had left the name-calling off of his post, I would have probably left him alone.

RE: 64 bit android?
By Monkey's Uncle on 9/13/2013 1:21:29 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, and please understand that ARMv8 and Intel 64/AMD64 are not the only micro architectures out there even in the embedded world - though these are the most prominent. There are dozens and not all of them are promising this level of backward compatibility.

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