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Nissan eventually plans to phase out the V6 for a turbocharged four-banger

Looming EPA regulations have resulted in big changes in the automotive world. We've seen a number of V8 engines give way to turbocharged V6s, while V6 engines in midsize sedans are being tossed or replaced with turbocharged inline-4s.
 
We're also on the cusp of seeing huge weight reductions for iconic automotive nameplates. The Ford is reportedly eyeing a 700-pound weight reduction for the next generation F-150 and a 400-pound weight reduction for the next Mustang.
 
According to a new report from Motor Trend, another fan favorite is going on a diet all in the name of performance and fuel economy concerns. The next generation Nissan Z (codenamed Z35) will lose two inches in width and a whopping 400+ pounds. The huge weight reduction would put the next generation Z below 2,900 pounds.


2013 Nissan 370Z
 
Motor Trend's sources indicate that while Nissan plans to offer the next generation Z with a V6 when it launches, the "master plan" is to phase out the V6 entirely in favor of a turbocharged, 2.5-liter inline-4. The turbo four will reportedly pump out 330hp, putting it on par with the 3.7-liter V6 used in the current 370Z.
 
The weight reduction and move to four-cylinder power should allow the new Z to achieve EPA numbers far better than the current car’s 18/26 mpg (city/highway) with a manual transmission.

Source: Motor Trend



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Now the question is
By FITCamaro on 8/27/2013 11:55:54 AM , Rating: 2
What will it do to the price. Losing 400 pounds of weight amidst the plethora of NHTSA regulations for safety equipment isn't easy. And simply cutting 2 inches off the width of the car isn't going to do much. I'd rather see them cut off the length though as a narrow sports car isn't a great sports car.




RE: Now the question is
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 8/27/2013 12:02:02 PM , Rating: 3
According to MT, it's supposed to start under $30,000. And the 370Z is already pretty short; it's 167" long -- 1" longer than a Scion FR-S. Why would you want it any shorter?

So this will basically be FR-S size and weight, but with more power. The FR-S starts at $25,000, so $29,995 base MSRP for the next gen Z seems doable.


RE: Now the question is
By FITCamaro on 8/27/2013 12:19:26 PM , Rating: 2
Yes and you can't fit much of a tire on a FR-S either. A serious problem for a car that you want to have a lot of grip.


RE: Now the question is
By lelias2k on 8/27/2013 6:33:25 PM , Rating: 2
That is not limited by width, but the engineering behind the project.

You can have a narrow car with wide tires, as long as it was designed that way.


RE: Now the question is
By Captain Awesome on 8/27/2013 12:10:09 PM , Rating: 2
I'm happy as long as they don't make it as small as a Miata or S2000.


RE: Now the question is
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/27/2013 12:31:56 PM , Rating: 5
The S2000 was a pretty bad ass car IMO...


RE: Now the question is
By Souka on 8/27/13, Rating: 0
RE: Now the question is
By Samus on 8/28/2013 3:29:42 AM , Rating: 2
The S2000 is also substantially bigger than the Miata of the time. The Miata now is about the size the S2000 was 10 years ago.


RE: Now the question is
By lelias2k on 8/28/2013 11:03:41 AM , Rating: 3
The current Miata is 5cm (2") longer than the original...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MX-5


RE: Now the question is
By Dr of crap on 8/27/2013 12:12:23 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed.
These narrow cars they make now are stupid looking and cramped to be in. AND a sports car is supposed to be wide to have that great handling.


RE: Now the question is
By Jeffk464 on 8/27/2013 1:32:56 PM , Rating: 2
Companies are finally starting to get it, sports cars should be light. Hopefully they will be able to keep the same wheel bases and width by using lighter materials rather than shrinking the cars. Ford is following suit the next mustang is suppose to be under 3000 lbs.


RE: Now the question is
By FITCamaro on 8/28/2013 9:58:56 AM , Rating: 2
Had nothing to do with them not "getting it". Has everything to do with many older sports cars having an aging audience that wants a comfy ride and seats. Also crash standards have made all vehicles heavier. A Camaro used to be 3200-3300 pounds. Now its 3600-3700 for the V6 and higher for the V8. Some of that is better interiors and subframes. Some of that is mandated equipment weighing it down.


RE: Now the question is
By Jeffk464 on 8/27/2013 1:35:35 PM , Rating: 2
400 lbs shouldn't be hard, how about an aluminum chassis and more composites in the body panels. Ditch luxury items in sports cars like power seats, heated seats, etc.


RE: Now the question is
By FITCamaro on 8/28/2013 9:59:52 AM , Rating: 4
Maybe you're cool with dying in accidents, but I'm not. I'll keep my steel frame thank you.


RE: Now the question is
By Jeffk464 on 8/29/2013 10:58:14 AM , Rating: 2
Why do you think you can't make an aluminum chassis safe?


RE: Now the question is
By Rott3nHIppi3 on 8/28/2013 2:46:45 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... My '79 280zx has none of these 'luxury' items and it still weighs in at 2800lbs! She sure is pretty though!

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2210/...


RE: Now the question is
By Reclaimer77 on 8/28/2013 3:19:14 PM , Rating: 2
Oh man nice! What a beauty.

It reminds me of my old '77 Z that got totaled :( *sniff*


RE: Now the question is
By Reclaimer77 on 8/27/2013 2:11:12 PM , Rating: 1
The Government doesn't care about the price of vehicles. Actually Obama would love it if most people were forced to live within the meager means he's left for them and didn't own a vehicle. He's said so himself to anyone who actually pays attention.

Nissan is making the current Z they way they are because that's what people who buy Z's want. Nobody buys a Z car for fuel efficiency. And who are all these people who wanted to trade that wonderful six cylinder for another generic torque-starved laggy boosted 4 banger? Nobody, that's who. Nobody except the Government.

So the Mustang is being transformed into some kind of European crap-can Now the Z is well, a Z in name only. I'm sure soon Subaru will announce the cancellation of the WRX/STI models, as it's flat out impossible for them to meet this absurd fleet CAFE requirement with those in the group.

Who's next on the Government chopping block?


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