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Google recently blocked Microsoft's YouTube app for Windows Phone

Microsoft has been warring with Google over a full YouTube app for Windows Phone, but it looks like the two just can't come to an agreement. 

Microsoft's David Howard, corporate vice president and deputy general counsel for Litigation & Antitrust, wrote a blog post with a simple message to Google: stop blocking Windows Phone's new YouTube app. 

The blog post claims that Microsoft had been running a YouTube app that doesn't provide as full of an experience as the version for Android and iOS since 2010. It recently changed this by creating a more full-powered YouTube app, but Google has blocked it because the app doesn't meet its requirements. 

This is what Microsoft is upset about. Howard claims that Microsoft is happy to work with Google on ways to make the app meet the Android maker's standards, but nothing seems to be working, and Microsoft believes Google is just making up excuses in order to keep Windows Phone from providing a full YouTube experience.

So what is it about Windows Phone's YouTube app that Google doesn't like? According to Howard, Google said the new app doesn't always serve advertisements correctly based on conditions by content creators. Microsoft asked Google to supply it with the information used by Android and iOS to ensure that advertisements are served correctly, and Google refused to do so.

Also, Google isn't happy with the branding of the product. Howard argued that Microsoft has been using the same branding since 2010 (the same branding it used for the inferior app) and Google never said anything before. Microsoft has apparently even made an effort to let users know that it is the author of the app, not Google. 

Furthermore, Google said the app is a "degraded" experience. This doesn't make much sense to Howard either, considering the fact that Google allowed Windows Phone to feature a YouTube app that was far below the quality of Android's and iOS' for years. 

But perhaps the largest issue is a request from Google that Microsoft transition the app to HTML5. Microsoft looked into doing so, but decided that it would take too much time and be too costly. 

The bigger problem with launching an HTML5-based version is that this isn't required of either Android or iOS. Neither of the apps on those platforms are written in HTML5 language, so Howard believes Microsoft shouldn't have to pull its current app down just because HTML5 isn't doable right now.

However, Microsoft did agree to work on an HTML5 version as long as it could keep its current version up for Windows Phone users. 

Google apparently didn't like this, and has since blocked Microsoft's YouTube app. 

"We know that this has been frustrating, to say the least, for our customers," wrote Howard. "We have always had one goal: to provide our users a YouTube experience on Windows Phone that’s on par with the YouTube experience available to Android and iPhone users. Google’s objections to our app are not only inconsistent with Google’s own commitment of openness, but also involve requirements for a Windows Phone app that it doesn’t impose on its own platform or Apple’s (both of which use Google as the default search engine, of course).

"We think it’s clear that Google just doesn’t want Windows Phone users to have the same experience as Android and Apple users, and that their objections are nothing other than excuses. Nonetheless, we are committed to giving our users the experience they deserve, and are happy to work with Google to solve any legitimate concerns they may have. In the meantime, we once again request that Google stop blocking our YouTube app."

This isn't the first run-in between Microsoft and Google over the use of a full YouTube app for Windows Phone. Back in January of this year, Dave Heiner, Vice President and Deputy General Counsel of Microsoft, wrote a post about the fact that the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is not doing enough to force Google to conform with antitrust laws. More specifically, Microsoft is upset that Windows Phone still cannot get a full YouTube app while the competition (Android and iOS) are able.

If you'd like to read the entire post by Howard, it's right here

Source: TechNet



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RE: What goes around comes around...
By Reclaimer77 on 8/16/2013 3:42:04 PM , Rating: -1
You're calling anyone who doesn't buy into this one-sided story an anti MS hater. Why should I bother explaining anything to you? And stop being so dramatic!

When you buy a Microsoft product, use a service, you play by their rules. And that's fine, its theirs to run how they see fit.

But when did MS get a sovereign right to YouTube?


RE: What goes around comes around...
By kleinma on 8/16/2013 4:19:04 PM , Rating: 2
MS has no soverign right to youtube. They do have the right to connect to the API and create an app to connect to youtube though. Google has the right to revoke that, since they own you tube, but they can't be selective in revocation. They can't say its ok for everyone but the companies that we feel are a threat to our mobile dominance. That is called antitrust. You cannot leverage your marketplace position to create an unfair disadvantage to your competition, and if you want to bring up the fact that Microsoft has done this, then you also need to bring up the consequences and years of govt oversight that they had to pay for it with. Somehow you think its ok to say something like "well MS did it before, now its googles turn to do it to them". OK, fine, so long as google gets hauled into court over it, levied with insane daily fines, and ordered to be have govt oversight for the next 10 years to make sure their moves are not monopolistic in nature. Then maybe it is fair, except for the fact that google should know better because they know the past. There was no past in the personal computing market when MS was working to dominate it.


RE: What goes around comes around...
By Reclaimer77 on 8/17/2013 8:05:44 AM , Rating: 1
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They do have the right to connect to the API and create an app to connect to youtube though.


Sure, if they follow Google's guidelines. Google is saying they haven't, MS is saying Google is being a big old meanie. You've chosen to take MS side, without hearing the whole story.

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They can't say its ok for everyone but the companies that we feel are a threat to our mobile dominance.


How is Microsoft a "threat" and Apple isn't? Yet Google has no problem with Apple having YouTube apps and what-not on their marketplace. Google makes a TON of profit from iOS actually.

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That is called antitrust. You cannot leverage your marketplace position to create an unfair disadvantage to your competition


Now you're just making sh*t up. EVERYONE has access to YouTube, it's called a browser. Google isn't blocking WP users from YouTube. They just want Microsoft to play by their rules and make an app that doesn't break them. Instead Microsoft has thumbed their nose at those rules, and continues releasing apps that allow for ad skipping, and other things that cheat content providers from revenue.

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Somehow you think its ok to say something like "well MS did it before, now its googles turn to do it to them".


No, I'm not saying that at all. I don't think what Google is doing is even REMOTELY on the same level as the US vs MS anti-trust suit.


RE: What goes around comes around...
By kleinma on 8/17/2013 12:57:06 PM , Rating: 2
How did that google koolaid taste when you drank it?


By Reclaimer77 on 8/17/2013 3:33:16 PM , Rating: 1
Does RedTroll give you wings?


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