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He wants to use plant-based agriculture

Lab-grown meat may not sound as appealing as the real thing, but tech giants like Google's Sergey Brin have done it in an effort to find viable ways of feeding the world's population, and Microsoft is looking to do something similar. 

According to a new report from The Washington Post, Microsoft co-founder and chairman Bill Gates wants to back plant-based animal product replacements. The idea is to use plant-based agriculture, which uses fewer resources than the production of meat. 

Gates has already kick started this idea by investing in Hampton Farms, which is a food startup that makes plant protein-based substitutes for eggs.

The reason Gates wants to make plant-based versions of meat is because raising livestock traditionally has a vast impact on the environment. Beef farming has been criticized for increasing methane emissions, since cows are ruminants fermenting food during digestion and producing carbon gases as a waste byproduct. In fact, five percent of carbon dioxide emissions and forty percent of methane emissions come from beef farming. 


Traditional farming also requires a lot of land and water, and with the human population constantly growing; the traditional way just won't feed 9 billion people. Hence, lab-grown meat will serve as a substitute for the real deal. 

Google co-founder Sergey Brin has already made a $332,000 investment in lab-grown meat, which has been developed and tested. The end result was a hamburger with 20,000 muscle fibers cultured from the stem cells of living cows. The big issue is that the stem cells need fetal bovine serum in order to complete the process, and the serum costs $250 per liter -- requiring as many as three cow fetuses for the liter. 

Those who've tried the artificial meat have described it as close to the real thing and "cake-like." 

The project was led by researchers at the Maastricht Univ., The Netherland's biggest international college. 
 
"When you see how these cows are treated, it's certainly something I'm not comfortable with," said Brin. "[While the synthetic alternative] is really just proof of concept right now, we're trying to create the first cultured beef hamburger.  From there I'm optimistic that we can really scale by leaps and bounds."

Source: The Washington Post



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RE: Sounds great to me
By tayb on 8/7/2013 12:41:00 PM , Rating: 0
Gee, tough question. I suppose they'll live in the wild just as every other animal on this planet does?


RE: Sounds great to me
By DrizztVD on 8/7/2013 1:03:50 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Gee, tough question. I suppose they'll live in the wild just as every other animal on this planet does?


Not the domesticated varieties no. They have been bred to be slow, bulky and juicy. You can try and re-introduce them into the wild, be my guest. The lion population will thank you, after they chewed off the very last bone from the last survivor of the herd.

No, the problem isn't that we should be giving up everything to make space for the growing population in THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. Those countries need to be made to deal with their population growth problems. If we can reduce the world population size with birth control to about 5 Billion and then get everyone up to a good economic level. That would be perfect. But hey, don't ask me how to go about doing that.


RE: Sounds great to me
By TSS on 8/7/2013 4:15:56 PM , Rating: 3
Kill them all.

What? You know damn well that's the only awnser when talking population control or reduction. You're going to end up either forcefully sterilizing people or forcefully terminating their lives.

You can do what the chinese did, institute a 1 child policy. My mother always said "better the world start with yourself" so why doesn't america implement this policy? I'm sure you people are OK with the goverment telling you how many kids you can and cannot have, as you seem to wish it on others.

Oh the USA is not a third world country? Your financials say otherwise. But granted, if it isn't now, it certainly will be if africa or china develops to "first world" status. After all, the only reason you're rich now is because they are poor. If they are as rich as you, you are as poor as them.

No. The problem isn't the amount of people, the earth could handle 15 billion people with little problem. The problem is Accesability to food.

The US is a net exporter of food. Heck, my country with it's 17 million residents is the second largest agicultural exporter in the world! It's not that we don't know how to grow massive quanities of food. It the people in africa having to be able to afford shipping all that food to their country.

If we'd set up some massive irrigation projects in africa, use the humantairian aid we're already sending soley for that purpouse and all world hunger would virtually be gone. Know why that doesn't happen? Because if africa becomes a net exporter of food, they will directly compete with the USA and indeed, my own country. This means that unless we can offer lower prices, people will buy african food, lowering our income, lowering our standard of living, and in the end, causing famine here because we cannot afford to grow the food anymore.

The problem isn't food. The problem is what we humans consider valueble. Right now, we consider digital bits stored on a specific computer far more valueble then human life. That's what we call "money". If you don't have the right bits and bytes you can just go fuckin starve.

Good luck getting food in a "first world" country if you don't have any money. The only place you'll get it is in jail after you've been put there for preventing starvation, i mean, stealing other people's property.


RE: Sounds great to me
By ClownPuncher on 8/7/2013 2:58:44 PM , Rating: 2
Cows would not survive in the wild.


RE: Sounds great to me
By Reclaimer77 on 8/7/2013 3:04:18 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Cows would not survive in the wild.


Sure they would. Mankind has wiped out most of their natural predators. As long as they have a food and water source, which they would naturally, there's nothing stopping their populations from growing.

Cows aren't all that different than buffalo if you think about it, for the purposes of this topic. And it was said back in pioneer times, buffalo herds were so massive they covered entire landmasses.


RE: Sounds great to me
By ClownPuncher on 8/7/2013 3:24:59 PM , Rating: 2
Cows have plenty of natural predators where I live. They also have probably the lowest intellect of any mamal. A buffalo can actually run and protect itself.

Plus, you put a cow in the wild and people will hunt it.


RE: Sounds great to me
By Reclaimer77 on 8/7/2013 3:33:14 PM , Rating: 1
Nature finds a way man. Herds mitigate predators quite nicely. Cows with poor traits will die off, while those with ideal ones will pass those traits on. Adaptation and all that good stuff.

It's not like mankind invented the cow lol. They would do just fine on their own, they did before.


RE: Sounds great to me
By ClownPuncher on 8/7/2013 3:42:22 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, but current meat and dairy cows are extremely different from wild cattle. I've spent too much time around cows to think they are smart enough to survive anywhere but the mildest places. If I haven't said it before, they are incredibly dumb.


RE: Sounds great to me
By Reclaimer77 on 8/7/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sounds great to me
By ClownPuncher on 8/7/2013 4:06:24 PM , Rating: 2
Cows are like Down Syndrome mixed with Alzheimer's mixed with two strokes mixed with severe head trauma mixed with progressivism.

That's why they are so tasty.


RE: Sounds great to me
By Digimonkey on 8/7/2013 4:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
Why do we have to free the cows again? We could just have a limited number. There would still be a demand for real cow meat and dairy products.

India will still remain an issue regardless of going to synthetic beef though.


RE: Sounds great to me
By ClownPuncher on 8/7/2013 4:28:41 PM , Rating: 2
We could just keep raising cows like we do now.


RE: Sounds great to me
By JonnyDough on 8/8/2013 12:22:02 PM , Rating: 2
Without people, the wolves that we have reintroduced to national parks would quickly become predator 1.


RE: Sounds great to me
By Skywalker123 on 8/9/2013 8:06:46 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Dude, ALL animals are incredibly dumb. Wtf? You think intelligence has a thing to do with survival?


you're right, you've made it thus far and you're dumb as a rock


RE: Sounds great to me
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/7/2013 4:14:31 PM , Rating: 2
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They also have probably the lowest intellect of any mamal.
I don't know, TesterGuy sure puts up a good challenge to that notion.


RE: Sounds great to me
By JonnyDough on 8/8/2013 12:26:13 PM , Rating: 2
The dumbest mammals are human beings. We're the only one that destroys the environment, morphs viruses and bacteria that plague us into something even worse, and kills each other in such a way that threatens our own existence.


RE: Sounds great to me
By stilltrying on 8/7/2013 9:18:37 PM , Rating: 2
I dare you to hit a cow in your car. Let them go free, so we can hit every damn one of the stupid ones sitting out in the middle of the road. Whether daylight or nighttime, I guarantee that many will be hit and killed along with many people.


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