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The idea is to protect children and keep "extreme pornography" out of the hands of residents

Britain's prime minister is getting serious about blocking pornography from the eyes of children through a new set of strong measures. 

Prime Minister David Cameron wants all British citizens to tell their Internet service providers (ISPs) whether they'd like to opt in for filters on their computers and mobile devices. Once a household chooses to use the filters, they are applied to every computer and mobile gadget used in the home -- and they can't be turned off by the child. An adult must call their ISP and disable the filters themselves. 

This is just one step in Cameron's plans to keep children from being able to easily access pornography online. He also wants to reduce the number of rapes and abuse cases against women, which can be triggered by violent pornographic material found on the Internet. 

Cameron is expected to discuss a new set of measures to accomplish a more porn-free Britain, including banning the distribution and ownership of "extreme pornography," such as violence and fake rape scenes; offering stronger filters through ISPs, and attempting to target pedophiles and rapists by creating a blacklist of search terms (which will pinpoint those who use the search terms) and allowing police forces to work with one secure database of illegal images. 

Cameron sees pornography as being a bad influence on both children and "sick" adults who search for the wrong things, and hopes these new rules will deter any foul play. 

Cameron has even addressed huge Internet companies like Google and Microsoft in his quest for a better Web experience for British residents. 

"I have a very clear message for Google, Bing, Yahoo and the rest," said Cameron. "You have a duty to act on this – and it is a moral duty. If there are technical obstacles to acting on [search engines], don't just stand by and say nothing can be done; use your great brains to help overcome them.

"You're the people who have worked out how to map almost every inch of the Earth from space; who have developed algorithms that make sense of vast quantities of information. Set your greatest brains to work on this. You are not separate from our society, you are part of our society, and you must play a responsible role in it."

Last year, the UK introduced the Online Safety Bill, which aimed to force internet service providers (ISPs) and mobile network providers to offer internet packages that exclude access to pornographic material by default.

Some UK ISPs agreed to enforce the opt-in option for pornographic material as early as last year. TalkTalk Telecom Group PLC was one of the first to agree, and now, Cameron is looking to make this a widely-used method.

Source: The Guardian

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By MZperX on 7/23/2013 12:31:26 PM , Rating: 2
Violent crime rate:

UK: 31 victims per 1000 (2010/2011 data)
US: 16.9 victims per 1000 (2009 data)

Almost twice as likely to be victimized in the UK than in the US. And if you consider that the vast majority of the US cases are from crime ridden urban areas (like ghettos in Chicago, Detroit, NYC, LA etc.) the "real world" numbers are even less. Meaning middle class and higher income people who live in nice neighborhoods and in states with strong self-defense laws see very little violent crime. The stats are heavily skewed by the extreme crime rate in the aforementioned sh|tholes.

By Aloonatic on 7/24/2013 3:02:14 AM , Rating: 2
You'd rather be four times as likely to be a victim of murder than twice as likely to be a victim of violent crime*?

*Different countries probably have wildly different definitions.

By MZperX on 7/25/2013 12:53:52 PM , Rating: 2
You fail at comprehension. Murder rates in the US are high in certain (very isolated) hot spots. I personally do not run the high risk of being murdered anywhere close to what the national statistics would suggest. AND because where I live I am legally allowed to defend myself with a firearm from would be assailants, the risk of other violent crimes is also very low. Criminals who would simply mug you or beat you up for the fun of it have a huge deterrent factor: the very real possibility of being shot in the face in the process. This leads to a high risk environment for them, and a low crime environment for me. Just the way I like it. I do not frequent the ghettos and slums where drug dealers and gang-bangers shoot each other by the dozens every day. I could not care less if they do. Frankly, the fewer the better.

In a country where all citizens are disarmed by law, even the petty criminal is emboldened. Their victims are defenseless (unless they are huge and martial arts experts). This means that in real terms the chance of being mugged, beaten, raped, robbed, etc. goes up for everyday folks. It's no longer confined to just "certain areas" there is generally a higher risk of victimization for all citizens.

BTW, I lived in Europe for over two decades including the UK in case you'd like to suggest that I don't know what I'm talking about. It was much more dangerous and crime ridden than in sleepy small town America. Do you leave your car unlocked when you go into the store? Have you ever left a briefcase in a shopping mall or a wallet in a movie theater and found it was still there hours later (or the next day) when you returned? Didn't think so. The distorted image painted about the US (based on movies, media hype, etc.) has nothing to do with the reality for the majority of folks who live here. I can assure you it's not gunfight at the OK corral every day.

By Aloonatic on 7/25/2013 2:31:27 PM , Rating: 2
I realised my rather basic statistical error after I re-read my reply later, as I posted it in a hurry. One thing to bear in mind is that the UK stats use a much wider and loser definition of "violent crime" than the US stats, making comparing them useless. I am also sure that murder rates are often higher in certain areas, but then that's true everywhere. The stats on murder rates are still very high in the USA though, to pretend otherwise is mind boggling, and I would wager that you probably think it's OK anyway as they are just "those kinda people" who deserve to be shot anyway. Am I right?

Anywho... Americans like yourself are so deluded, viewing the world through stars and stripes tinted spectacles, it's hard to say if I'm more amused or i feel pity for you. It must be horrible to be so scared that you genuinely feel the way that you do, to think that someone is just waiting for you to forget to take your gun out with you so that they can mug you. I have never walked the streets with a gun, in cities, towns and villages in the UK, day and night, and never been attacked. Maybe I look like I'm packing heat? I also pity you (and other similar, but not all of course, Americans) for putting such a low value on all human life, especially that of the poor and lower classes who are many of the petty thieves that you talk about. What percentage of your population he's been locked up and thrown away like trash by the way? Probably helps to keep stats low when you have many of "them" locked away huh?

I agree that everyone gets a distorted view of each others countries though, always makes one feel better to think that your country is so much better or, as is most often the case, other countries are so much worse.

Not sure what the sleepy small town stuff is about, maybe I came in half way through another argument there? Most "small town" places are usually pretty safe in most countries, as you usually have to be pretty wealthy to live in them, or they are so small that everyone knows everyone and looks out for each other too, as well as generally being more amiable due to the more relaxed area.

I'm glad that you live somewhere that is so friendly to the forgetful :o)

By MZperX on 7/26/2013 3:47:57 PM , Rating: 2
Now that you established that you are superior to me and all Americans like me, having pity and all, maybe we can discuss why you think that carrying a defensive weapon is being fearful (in your mind anyway).

Do you have a fire extinguisher in your car? Do you have one in your house (or perhaps more than one)? Do you have a first aid kit? Do you wear your seatbelt? You see, similar questions could be asked about all of these: are you so fearful of fire that you cannot leave the house without a fire extinguisher in your car? Are you so fearful of an accident that you cannot drive without being buckled up? Are you so fearful of getting hurt that you must have a first aid kit with you?

I'm sure you start getting the picture... These questions sound really stupid, don't they? That's because they are. The whole premise is laughable. Being prepared has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with recognizing risk and being responsible in addressing that risk. Carrying a firearm is part of everyday life for me and a lot of people I know. It's like taking your car keys or umbrella. It's nothing special or exciting. Because so many people carry concealed, almost no one has to actually use it. I never had to. And I hope it stays that way. You know the saying "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst." I consider it my civic duty to my family and my fellow citizens to carry, because it makes our streets safer. The only people who have reason to be fearful are the criminals.

By testerguy on 7/25/2013 9:13:56 AM , Rating: 2
Almost twice as likely to be victimized in the UK than in the US

Important difference: being 'victimized' isn't being killed. Violent crime can be as soft as being pushed over whilst out at night. Death? Not so much. If anything the fact that there is 'more' violence but fewer deaths indicates the success of the anti-gun laws.

And if you consider that the vast majority of the US cases are from crime ridden urban areas (like ghettos in Chicago, Detroit, NYC, LA etc.) the "real world" numbers are even less

Exactly the same as in the UK so an irrelevant point.

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