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It will reportedly be a low-end phone for about $325 USD

Nokia is on the verge of releasing another Lumia, but this time, it'll be a low-end model with the largest screen the company has unveiled yet. 

Nokia will launch the Lumia 625 in the coming weeks, which is an effort to offer more affordable Windows Phones. The new phone will feature a 4.7-inch screen, which will make it one of the larger Lumia's to date. 

The Lumia 625 will also have a a dual-core 1.2GHz S4 processor, 512MB of RAM, a 5-megapixel camera and a 800 x 480 (WVGA) resolution.


It's expected to launch at about $325 USD in a variety colors. However, a solid release date for the U.S. hasn't been announced yet. 

It's important for Nokia to release less-expensive models of its Lumia line so that it can reach many different people with different price points. 

A lot of the Lumia phones, such as the recently-announced Lumia 1020, are high-end devices that pack a ton of features for a steeper price. For instance, the 1020 -- which will have features like a 1.5 GHz Snapdragon S4 dual-core, 2GB DRAM, LTE, NFC and a whopping second generation 41 MP, 1/1.5" sensor with 1.1 micron backside illuminated (BSI) pixels -- will run about $602 USD. 

Source: The Verge



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RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 10:31:50 AM , Rating: 3
X Box 360 has 512megs of ram. I would believe that games are far more complex than apps.


RE: good, but
By retrospooty on 7/17/13, Rating: 0
RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 11:00:59 AM , Rating: 2
I'm a fan I don't deny it. Im also a programmer.

If that's yours and Reclaimers only rebuttal your wasting your lives.


RE: good, but
By retrospooty on 7/17/2013 11:30:59 AM , Rating: 2
No, I was just wondering, since you seem to aggressively defend their every move.

I don't have a rebuttal on this particular issue, as I personally think 512mb is OK for a low end phone running WP8. The Keyword being "low end phone".


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/13, Rating: 0
RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 12:15:00 PM , Rating: 3
Ill take the bait. I dont find anything wrong with Windows 8 except when it dumps me out to the full start menu instead of back to the desktop. But 8.1 allows me to go straight to desktop where I pin my most used apps and have desktop icons for the rest. Its the same way I worked in Windows 7 because personally Start is for programs I rarely use and its no major inconvenience for me to go to it if I need something I mash the windows key and type what Im looking for and done. My life didnt fall into chaos as a result. I'm just not making a big deal out of it because if I want the original start menu I have added it. Many apps didn't come with Windows I added them. Im not one to whine like a biatch about things I can change. Microsoft doesn't prevent you from doing the same but there is something wrong with me because I don't demand Microsoft do it for me.

I might as well demand my mom does my laundry.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/13, Rating: 0
RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 12:55:02 PM , Rating: 2
Bothers you that much then buy a Mac. Nothing stopping you.

Amazing how something your able to change can ruin your life. I'm guessing you still use IE because you want Microsoft to install firefox for you. Maybe you should work for the EU Commission? You sound like them.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 1:28:10 PM , Rating: 2
No I'm just fine with Windows 7, thank you much. Windows 8 was/is fundamentally flawed for a desktop PC in regards to UI design. In your own words, Microsoft had to release a patch which corrected this somewhat.

quote:
I'm guessing you still use IE because you want Microsoft to install firefox for you.


???

Yeah that's a real mature statement.

These insipid little comebacks and digs, like calling Retro my sidekick or whatever, just make you look weak and unable to handle debate.


RE: good, but
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/17/13, Rating: 0
RE: good, but
By retrospooty on 7/17/2013 2:58:33 PM , Rating: 1
Well, sort of... But tester comes with at least 10x more asshole content and generally goes straight to insults when anyone disagrees.


RE: good, but
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/17/2013 3:18:28 PM , Rating: 2
So true...


RE: good, but
By BillyBatson on 7/17/2013 8:20:05 PM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer... Mitch is not only right about the above points he did make, but you definitely sound angry and bitter about something not very important. Sure win8 would have been better with the fixes in 8.1 but guess what they repaired a few things and now very one will get 8.1, big whoop. Companies make mistakes all the time it's how they fix them that matters.
You just want to hate on windows so bad that you're hating on those who don't share your same view. It shouldn't matter that Mitch likes windows, all that matters is that you don't, so like Mitch said go buy a Mac, or run win7 for the next 10 years. I ran XP for 10 years.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 8:36:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You just want to hate on windows so bad that you're hating on those who don't share your same view.


.....

You know I'm using Windows right now, right? And that for my personal non-work desktop, it's been my OS of choice since DOS went out of style?

This whole "don't like it, don't use it" comeback to Windows 8 complaints not only don't belong on a tech blog, but aren't even remotely encompassing the reality of the situation. Lets be honest, right now today, there's no valid alternative to Windows for many many people. If Microsoft is serious about moving Windows in this direction, we should absolutely be concerned, and not browbeat for bringing up its flaws.


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 8:42:35 PM , Rating: 2
What cant you do with Windows 8 that your doing with Windows 7? Enlighten the world with your wisdom of flaws?


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 8:52:22 PM , Rating: 2
Umm I thought you weren't talking to me? It's a waste of time or something? I guess I'm out of time-out, WOOO HOOO!

Okay anyway, where did I say there were things I couldn't do? For a lot of us, HOW we do things are just as important. Windows 8 changes and in some cases eliminates the way we did things, and NOT for the better. That's the issue.

Can you just use some logic, please? Why would I NOT want my desktop experience to be as awesome as possible? Don't you think if Windows 8 was a massive improvement over Windows 7, I would be ALL over it?

You make NO sense. I'm not a random Microsoft "hater". I'm using Windows!! I don't WANT to not-like Windows 8.


RE: good, but
By seamonkey79 on 7/17/2013 8:55:36 PM , Rating: 2
Have my desktop interface the way I want it without installing third party software to bring back the things I want that Windows 7 has by default.

The point isn't that Windows 8 can't do it, it's that Microsoft pulled a lot of the framework to do it out. Instead of giving people the choice to use something or not use it, they removed the option to use it differently than the way they thought you should want to use it, and instead of putting it back in they added a shadow of what things were and are still expecting people to love it.

I have tried using Windows 8 and will pick up a copy of 8.1 to play with when it's released to see if it's enough to move to, but to me the desktop environment for Windows 8 is an interface that limits my ability to use my desktop and is ugly like Windows 3.0 (although maybe more like Windows 2.0).

What can't I do? Run my computer the way I want to out of the box, something I've been able to do with Windows 3.0 - Windows 7.


RE: good, but
By BillyBatson on 7/17/2013 9:22:13 PM , Rating: 2
I found this a poor excuse. Software changes all the time, so many other programs have changed and I thought not for the better, but then someone else will think it's the best, while someone else who only gets to use the new version won't see any flaws at all. Humans are creatures of habit and it's difficult to get them to change their routine. I too would love nothing more than to be able to log into the desktop interface and have win8 stay there unless I tell it otherwise, and I do find it annoying that it doesn't, but it's also not that big of a deal especially with 8.1.
You have never been able to run windows the way you want out of the box you have always run it the way MS has wanted only with 8 you just have more of an issue with how MS wants to run it.


RE: good, but
By BillyBatson on 7/17/2013 9:09:15 PM , Rating: 2
Ok I wholeheartedly agree with you on that point, there isn't a valid alternative to windows for most people. It's a fact and i'm not happy about it either. However this fact does not give us ownership of their product it is still theirs to do with as they please even if it means making poor design choices, or to even discontinue the OS all together. What we should be offered by MS though because of this fact is at least an open ear for design choices, which they provided and acted on with 8.1, with Xbox One, and hopefully more products down the line (surface?). You can't be mad at MS for trying out their idea first before listening to our feedback instead of the other way around. It's how prompt mistakes are altered that matters.


RE: good, but
By kleinma on 7/17/2013 4:58:01 PM , Rating: 2
512MB ram means nothing at all without any context. You only need as much ram as required to run the operating system, and whatever programs are needed. Even if the OS used a full half of the RAM, and left only 256 for other apps, that is still a huge amount of ram for the context of smart phone apps. I guess if you want everything running in the background unsuspended at all times you will need more ram (and a gigantic battery), but smartphones pretty much only let you do one thing at a time. If the phone came with 2GB of ram you would probably think it is awesome, even if you full well knew that 1.5GB of that ram sat idle 100% of the time.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 10:50:40 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah because smart phones are totally just like consoles with PC parts in them. Good point.

P.s. The 360 is almost a decade old design at this point. Why not use a next gen console? Oh right, that would invalidate your argument.


RE: good, but
By Flunk on 7/17/2013 10:56:55 AM , Rating: 3
It depends, if you want a low-end phone with 8GB of RAM you're going to add $100 to the price, which I'm sure the target audience doesn't want to pay.

This whole line of reasoning is silly, 512MB is sufficent for web browsing, email, maps, standard apps and light games in Windows Phone. This is not a high-end phone.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 11:28:23 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
512MB is sufficent for web browsing, email, maps, standard apps and light games in Windows Phone. This is not a high-end phone.


Sure I'll give you that about the RAM.

After reading the specs again, I just cannot wrap my head around what's going on over at Nokia. This is a $300+ phone with a screen resolution of 480p. Let me repeat, 480p!!!

Invariably what happens in these discussions is that Windows Phone fanatics (yes, there is such a thing - shocking I know) will counter every criticism with a deflection about the smoothness of the OS, and that it magically doesn't need competitive specs.

I just can't wait to see someone claim Windows Phone doesn't need good screen resolutions either.


RE: good, but
By Labotomizer on 7/17/2013 11:57:35 AM , Rating: 3
It's a $300 phone off contract. That makes a world of difference. This will likely be sold for pre-paid phones and the like, not on the major networks to be subsidized.

I'll agree that I wouldn't want a 4.7" phone with a 480p resolution, but the majority of the population, especially the populations a phone like this is targeted at, won't know or care either way.

A budget phone doesn't need competitive specs. It needs to be cheap. And when you compare this to the bottom of the barrel Android garbage out there this is a clear winner, in performance and functionality. Would I pick this over an HTC One or GS4 or GS3? No... But that's not why it's here. It's going against Straight Talk's crappy android phone of the week.


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 12:18:12 PM , Rating: 2
Its reclaimer77 hes here to pee in Microsoft and mines cornflakes nothing more. If it doesn't come from Samsuck hes out to tell you how wrong you are to consider it.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 12:24:28 PM , Rating: 1
See there you go, more Android FUD.

For $350 bucks there are Android phones that destroy this thing, you just don't know what you're talking about at all.

quote:
It's going against Straight Talk's crappy android phone of the week.


Actually since you brought up Straight Talk and the GS3, I hit their website to check it out. You can get a Galaxy S3 for $399 with a mail-in rebate right now lol.

But whatever, if you and Nokia think they can propel themselves into the low-end market with 480p phones because "people don't know or care", you're going to be sadly disappointed.

This phone is garbage, just admit it.


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 12:38:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Its reclaimer77 hes here to pee in Microsoft and mines cornflakes nothing more. If it doesn't come from Samsuck hes out to tell you how wrong you are to consider it.

I rest my case.


RE: good, but
By retrospooty on 7/17/2013 12:46:37 PM , Rating: 2
Except for the fact I have seen him speak against Samsung product and for MS. He just calls it like he sees it, where in your case, you just call it in favor of MS regardless.

Who's the one here on an agenda? Its you bud.


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 12:56:35 PM , Rating: 2
Im going to call you MiniReclaimer your like his sidekick Robin.


RE: good, but
By retrospooty on 7/17/2013 2:34:27 PM , Rating: 2
You would have to call alot of people that, because anyone regular here sees you are on an agenda. Get some perspective man. Its just a company.


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 3:18:58 PM , Rating: 2
So I happen to like Microsoft products I guess that means I have some agenda or there is some conspiracy there because nobody can possibly like some of their products.

It must be a wide open market to make a better product than Microsoft you should go off and do it and bring them to chapter 11 and show them how its done.

Hating on Microsoft is so 90's but in the 90's they deserved it. Its not the 90's anymore.


RE: good, but
By retrospooty on 7/17/2013 4:06:32 PM , Rating: 2
"So I happen to like Microsoft products I guess that means I have some agenda or there is some conspiracy there because nobody can possibly like some of their products."

I like their products too, just not the few most recent ones... It's when you aggressively defend ALL of their products and every move they make no matter what that leads people to think you have an agenda, not that you like their products. I don't hate on MS, just point out what I don't like. I don't like the "our way or no way" direction they have taken lately with their products period. You seem to want to defend them taking away options, which is highly suspect to me. "No, we shouldnt have options, we should just eat it and like it"


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 5:51:42 PM , Rating: 2
I happen to like a lot of the Microsoft products right now and the things I don't like I can change. I dont see the need to obsessively complain about things that can be changed. Don't like the factory installed radio in your car you change it Microsoft is no different dont like the start menu change it. Heck I don't like IE and I use Firefox because its much better but IE is progressing. For a while I didn't like Firefox because of the darn memory leaks in it but they seem to have it under control now.

Of all the companies out there when a mistake is made Microsoft owns up to it. Sony, Apple, Adobe, NVIDIA, HP, RIM just all pretend were stupid and ignore or avoid owning up to any mistake. I recently started loving Lenovo but about 2 years ago I didnt. But their customer service has changed dramatically and they own up to mistakes and make good on them.

The XB1 had great ideas and Im glad they are bringing some back especially the steam like options because I love steam I just log into my laptop or desktop and load whatever game I own. I even put it on my kids pc and they will occasionally play a game no need to look for the disc. I will eventually have more than one XB1 and I dont mind buying the game without a disc and being able to install and run the game from any XB1 I log into its great for me. I like that model. I love steam sales I cant wait till the XB1 reaches that model. My family loves dance games on kinect at parties there is literally 10 kids and adults dancing with the players its a good time. Sure it doesn't work for every game but its fun.

Its not for everyone but it works for me and I think Microsoft is producing some of the best products they have ever done. My last OS install the only driver I went to look for was the Graphics card. Back in the day we all searched for drivers audio, network, etc you dont even need to use the mobo driver disc anymore. This is awesome.

No OS, Console, Phone etc is perfect but I certainly believe through experience that Microsoft is putting out great stuff. How can I say bad things about Windows Phone when in nearly 3 years its never frozen, hung, or needed to be rebooted especially when my wife is pulling the battery on her android monthly and getting the black screen of death? I heard about it every time she had to pull the battery how much she hated it and it was a so called device that everyone gave praise to because of the specs yet Ive been able to do everything her android was capable of doing without ever having to worry about pulling the battery.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 8:11:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
How can I say bad things about Windows Phone when in nearly 3 years its never frozen, hung, or needed to be rebooted especially when my wife is pulling the battery on her android monthly and getting the black screen of death?


Myopic much?

How can I say bad things about Android when my phone never froze, hung, or needed to be rebooted?

quote:
Don't like the factory installed radio in your car you change it Microsoft is no different dont like the start menu change it.


That's not a valid argument. See what we mean? You just straight up refuse to acknowledge that Windows 8 was and still is a conceptually flawed OS for a desktop PC. It's a mobile touchscreen-centric UI married to mouse and keyboard systems.

The fact that you can essentially hack the OS with third party programs not supported by Microsoft in an attempt to remedy the flaw, doesn't mean the flaw doesn't exist. It's there. Admit it!


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 8:41:11 PM , Rating: 2
EDUCATION:
A flaw prevents you from doing something. There is no flaw preventing you from doing something.

BIAS:
You just don't like it.

KNOW YOU KNOW! **INSERT LITTLE RAINBOW HERE**


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 10:16:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
EDUCATION: A flaw prevents you from doing something.


Uhh sorry professor but that's not education. A flaw is something that is implemented poorly/incorrectly.

It doesn't have to prevent me from doing something...

quote:
BIAS: You just don't like it.


Nope. Windows 8 is objectively flawed as a desktop OS compared to Windows 7. Fact!


RE: good, but
By themaster08 on 7/18/2013 1:47:19 AM , Rating: 2
Serious question. Have you ever used Windows Phone for a length of time?

As much as you appear to announce your hatred for Windows Phone and Windows 8, your comments are always everywhere to be found in related articles.

What is with your constant urge to put the platform down? It's evident that you're a big fan of Google, but just because other peoples' tastes differ to yours, that doesn't make them wrong.

Or do you have a secret love for Windows Phone? ;)


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 12:48:23 PM , Rating: 1
You don't have a "case". I didn't bring up Android OR Samsung until he did. I simply addressed his points, as disjointed as they were.

oh love the "Samsuck" by the way lol. Just use "oldfags" with it and you can be the next Pirks...


RE: good, but
By Mitch101 on 7/17/2013 1:05:01 PM , Rating: 2
Nothing good will come from talking with you further. Feel free to continue your anti-Microsoft rantings without further interaction from me.

You are not worth my time.


RE: good, but
By GulWestfale on 7/17/2013 12:54:10 PM , Rating: 2
uh, i bought a samsung galaxy S2X off contract, brand new for 250 bucks last year.
specs: 4.5" AMOLED screen with 800x480 res
1.5GHz slowdragon CPU
1GB RAM

now it's a year later and nokia want to charge 50 bucks more for half the RAM and a worse OS?


RE: good, but
By fic2 on 7/17/2013 12:58:49 PM , Rating: 2
One issue with the 625 is that it is $325 but the Lumia 521 has almost the same specs and is $130.
Both have 512M memory.
521 cpu is 1GHz dual core vs 1.2GHz.
4" screen vs 4.7" but same resolution.
Battery 1430mAh vs 2000mAh
Same camera.
From the pic the 625 might have a front facing camera.

But the #1 problem is the HTC 8X blows this away in specs and runs WinP8 and can be bought now on Amazon for $325.

Disclaimer: My gf has a 521 and does like it. It is a great low end phone. I consider $300 a mid-range and $5-600 an upper end phone.


RE: good, but
By Reclaimer77 on 7/17/2013 2:25:11 PM , Rating: 2
Nokia seems to be going the way of video card manufacturer naming schemes. IE, nonsensical.

I don't understand what all these model numbers mean or what that means to the bottom line in regards to what kind of phone you're actually walking away with.

In your example, what is supposed to be the signifying difference between a "512" or "625"? And what does 512 or 625 supposed to mean!?


RE: good, but
By AssBall on 7/17/2013 2:37:50 PM , Rating: 2
822 has better specs (screen peen aside) and can be had for $100. I don't get the price either.


RE: good, but
By Samus on 7/17/2013 9:32:29 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't complain about the RAM so much as the 800x480 resolution on a nearly 5" screen. That's <200ppi which just isn't competitive even on budget phones that rock the same resolution on a smaller screen. Was it really that much more to make is 720p? The CPU has plenty of power to drive a higher resolution. I just don't know what the target market for this is going to be...the Galaxy Note II can be had for around $500 off contract and its easily 2x the phone.


RE: good, but
By Mint on 7/18/2013 5:21:28 AM , Rating: 3
In no way shape or form is the Galaxy Note II a competitor to the Lumia 625.


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